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What do you think the biggest threat to quality of life over the next 4 years is?

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Post by Cameron 28/11/16, 09:35 pm

The_Dude wrote:As Trump said, what do you have to lose?

Seems to me like we've got a lot to lose, but then again, I'm not one of those who bought into America not being great anymore.
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Post by xsanguine 28/11/16, 09:45 pm

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Working at a university and having a child as a public school teacher makes you targets more than you think it makes DWags an idiot.



This sentence could use some restructuring.

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Post by xsanguine 28/11/16, 09:46 pm

Cameron wrote:
The_Dude wrote:As Trump said, what do you have to lose?

Seems to me like we've got a lot to lose, but then again, I'm not one of those who bought into America not being great anymore.

Were you more of a "America Was Never Great" type? Those guys were/are the greatest.
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Post by Cameron 28/11/16, 09:50 pm

xsanguine wrote:
Cameron wrote:

Seems to me like we've got a lot to lose, but then again, I'm not one of those who bought into America not being great anymore.

Were you more of a "America Was Never Great" type? Those guys were/are the greatest.

Well, I don't buy into the "America is the best at everything all the time" sort of blind patriotism stuff. But if you compare America to every other nation in the world, I'd say we're comfortably in the top 5, which seems pretty great to me.
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Post by xsanguine 28/11/16, 09:56 pm

Cameron wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

Were you more of a "America Was Never Great" type? Those guys were/are the greatest.

Well, I don't buy into the "America is the best at everything all the time" sort of blind patriotism stuff. But if you compare America to every other nation in the world, I'd say we're comfortably in the top 5, which seems pretty great to me.

Yeah, I'm not a very patriotic/nationalist type.... but I've been to "other" places... and I'd much rather try to at least maintain what we tried getting going on here.

I'd say that makes it "great" to me, at least relatively. As subjective as all of that is, of course.

Trump was trying to dial into that nostalgia. Get that sentimental vote.
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Post by DWags 18/01/17, 10:16 pm

DWags wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

The vouchers are basically a check that each child carries with them wherever they enroll. Public, private, charter, etc. Right now it works that way with schools of choice but not all options.

I'll comment more with more time but here's just a bit. You can charter up anything. Hire unqualified teachers and make a profit if you give back to the mother ship. Some companies will take your tax dollars and pay rent to a building the mother ship owns. Outrageous rent. 500K or mother a year. Then, they can make 3% profit, but they don't have to count rent. Pay teachers such low wages that they drive real professionals out of the business. No pension needs to be paid and insurance is shit. The more charters the less kids your wife will have in her school. All schools. "Competition" I guess. Now we have to make cud at your wives school and raise insurance rates (that's been going on for almost a decade. The best part of the gig is when you open a charter in our state your finances don't go under the same scrutiny as public schools. And get this the charters don't have to take in add's ADHD's ect.

Here's a quick cut and paste. I'll give more. But remember your taxes aren't going ddown as far as money to schools, they're being shifted towards for profit schools. Good gig and you can buy your supplies from friends at no bid. I'm actually looking to start one on 8 mile. Money galore.

From John John Jeffire
Here is part of the problem when you plan on gutting the public school system for private vouchers. For every charter that succeeds, you will find a number of these Happytime Achievement Academies that pop up in an abandoned strip mall, school, or office building making all kind of promises that are never kept. The backers of the charter collect all the tax money (yes, your money), hire uncertified teachers at dirt wages, buy crappy computers from a fellow "entrepreneur," are not held accountable to standards public schools must meet, get rid of or don't accept kids with disabilities/behavior issues, and then fold up shop after a year or two. Who gets screwed? You, the taxpayer, the parents who wanted the best for their kids and believed the hype, the kids who never got the education they were promised, and the duped teachers who thought this was the way to start a career they were passionate about. The backers laugh all the way to the bank (Trump University, anyone?) and get ready to fire up their next scam, and no one is held accountable. Oh, and Betsy Devos, she has no degree in education, Child Psychology, or Childhood Development and has never taught one day in her life--yes, let that sink in for a minute.

I just think this guy does it more eloquently.

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Post by GRR Spartan 19/01/17, 07:17 am

Charter schools are one of the biggest scams going.

Literally handpick students. If their parent(s) can't participate in schools they are in violation of the contract and their child can see their school deny them for the next year.

Special needs children are directed to public schools. Special needs children require more staff and specialists. That adds to expenses that aren't in the business plan.
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Post by DWags 24/05/17, 11:29 pm

Get ready, here it comes:

DeVos:
"but she did say that states should have the right to decide whether private schools that accept publicly funded voucher students should be allowed to discriminate against students for whatever reason they want."



Who, exactly, did we think these people were? They're racis discriminating American taliban.
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