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Post by duffy munn 2017-03-29, 21:48

For another month. I get that this whole situation is beyond fucked up but come on.

If there is anyone that needs to go it's Curtis Blackwell.
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Post by NigelUno 2017-03-29, 21:50

duffy munn wrote:For another month. I get that this whole situation is beyond fucked up but come on.

If there is anyone that needs to go it's Curtis Blackwell.

Maybe buying his silence?
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Post by The_Dude 2017-03-29, 22:10

Wow, Duffy wants the black guy out. Shocking.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2017-03-29, 22:13

duffy munn wrote:For another month. I get that this whole situation is beyond fucked up but come on.

If there is anyone that needs to go it's Curtis Blackwell.

I get the sentiment given the 'rumors' but this has gotta be legal, right? I'm sure this is just MSU covering their asses and as soon as they can reasonably/legally disengage that will happen.
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Post by duffy munn 2017-03-29, 22:20

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
duffy munn wrote:For another month. I get that this whole situation is beyond fucked up but come on.

If there is anyone that needs to go it's Curtis Blackwell.

I get the sentiment given the 'rumors' but this has gotta be legal, right? I'm sure this is just MSU covering their asses and as soon as they can reasonably/legally disengage that will happen.

You are probably right WBH. Just my initial reaction is WTF
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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-03-30, 08:34

NigelUno wrote:
duffy munn wrote:For another month. I get that this whole situation is beyond fucked up but come on.

If there is anyone that needs to go it's Curtis Blackwell.

Maybe buying his silence?

You really think the cost of silence is a one month extension?

More likely its a result of Ingham County prosecutors office dragging its feet.

The longer this goes on makes me think there are people other than the victim who are wanting to go forward. The alleged assault took place in January and we're days away from April with no charges.

I think and hope Blackwell's trouble stems from failure to follow reporting procedures and not follwing the chain of responsibility. (A player(s) call him with I screwed up story about a girl, too much fun, girl did a 180 after things got started so Blackwell tries to fix things without involving Dantonio).

If MSU doesn't have their i's dotted, t's crossed on a termination document they could see a wrongful termination suit.

So what happens if the reported victim backs out based on evidence the players lawyers uncovered? The 3 players are done at MSU and Blackwell is gone because of reporting violation?
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Post by duffy munn 2017-03-30, 08:39

GRR Spartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Maybe buying his silence?

You really think the cost of silence is a one month extension?

More likely its a result of Ingham County prosecutors office dragging its feet.

The longer this goes on makes me think there are people other than the victim who are wanting to go forward. The alleged assault took place in January and we're days away from April with no charges.

I think and hope Blackwell's trouble stems from failure to follow reporting procedures and not follwing the chain of responsibility. (A player(s) call him with I screwed up story about a girl, too much fun, girl did a 180 after things got started so Blackwell tries to fix things without involving Dantonio).

If MSU doesn't have their i's dotted, t's crossed on a termination document they could see a wrongful termination suit.

So what happens if the reported victim backs out based on evidence the players lawyers uncovered? The 3 players are done at MSU and Blackwell is gone because of reporting violation?

The Blackwell experiment has run it's course.

To me, if there is one no brainer in this entire mess it's to cut ties with Blackwell. If even half of the things I have heard are remotely true, this guy should be no where near this program anymore.
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Post by Death Roe 2017-03-30, 08:40

I'd assume this is just to keep paying him in case he gets cleared, and MSU doesn't have to deal with a potential lawsuit from him.
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Post by InTenSity 2017-03-30, 09:03

duffy munn wrote:
The Blackwell experiment has run it's course.

To me, if there is one no brainer in this entire mess it's to cut ties with Blackwell. If even half of the things I have heard are remotely true, this guy should be no where near this program anymore.
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Post by NigelUno 2017-03-30, 09:09

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NigelUno wrote:

Maybe buying his silence?

You really think the cost of silence is a one month extension?

More likely its a result of Ingham County prosecutors office dragging its feet.

The longer this goes on makes me think there are people other than the victim who are wanting to go forward. The alleged assault took place in January and we're days away from April with no charges.

I think and hope Blackwell's trouble stems from failure to follow reporting procedures and not follwing the chain of responsibility. (A player(s) call him with I screwed up story about a girl, too much fun, girl did a 180 after things got started so Blackwell tries to fix things without involving Dantonio).

If MSU doesn't have their i's dotted, t's crossed on a termination document they could see a wrongful termination suit.

So what happens if the reported victim backs out based on evidence the players lawyers uncovered? The 3 players are done at MSU and Blackwell is gone because of reporting violation?

It's probably a combination of an incomplete investigation by the prosecutor's office and/or MSU (and the liability of firing him before those are done), and possibly the idea that he can't/won't comment on the investigation if he's still (technically) employed. I doubt they would want him going public with what he knows (if he was terminated).
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Post by Vlad 2017-03-30, 09:27

Sound mind, sound body? Right! Rolling Eyes

What a disappointment! I should've decked him that night at Hopcat's.
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Post by Guest 2017-03-30, 09:50

Vlad wrote:Sound mind, sound body? Right! Rolling Eyes

What a disappointment! I should've decked him that night at Hopcat's.

Should've told Dantonio off.

Should've told Izzo he was all wrong.

Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Post by Triple Sparty 2017-03-30, 09:56

If his contact was expiring, how could he have grounds for wrongful termination based on MSU not renewing it?
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Post by Vlad 2017-03-30, 11:00

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Vlad wrote:Sound mind, sound body? Right! Rolling Eyes

What a disappointment! I should've decked him that night at Hopcat's.

Should've told Dantonio off.

Should've told Izzo he was all wrong.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Missed opportunities.
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Post by Blanch32 2017-03-30, 11:04

duffy munn wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:

You really think the cost of silence is a one month extension?

More likely its a result of Ingham County prosecutors office dragging its feet.

The longer this goes on makes me think there are people other than the victim who are wanting to go forward. The alleged assault took place in January and we're days away from April with no charges.

I think and hope Blackwell's trouble stems from failure to follow reporting procedures and not follwing the chain of responsibility. (A player(s) call him with I screwed up story about a girl, too much fun, girl did a 180 after things got started so Blackwell tries to fix things without involving Dantonio).

If MSU doesn't have their i's dotted, t's crossed on a termination document they could see a wrongful termination suit.

So what happens if the reported victim backs out based on evidence the players lawyers uncovered? The 3 players are done at MSU and Blackwell is gone because of reporting violation?

The Blackwell experiment has run it's course.

To me, if there is one no brainer in this entire mess it's to cut ties with Blackwell. If even half of the things I have heard are remotely true, this guy should be no where near this program anymore.

This. our recruiting sucks. we need fresh blood anyway, plus this way you can move Staten into his role and go out and hir3 a real o line coach
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Post by Blanch32 2017-03-30, 11:07

Vlad wrote:Sound mind, sound body? Right! Rolling Eyes

What a disappointment! I should've decked him that night at Hopcat's.

WTF happened?
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Post by duffy munn 2017-03-30, 11:11

Vlad wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Should've told Dantonio off.

Should've told Izzo he was all wrong.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

Missed opportunities.


I've said it before: you would sooner shit your pants than tell off Izzo or Dantonio.

But you do talk awfully tough here.
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Post by duffy munn 2017-03-30, 11:13

Triple Sparty wrote:If his contact was expiring, how could he have grounds for wrongful termination based on MSU not renewing it?


Great question.
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Post by tanfan! 2017-03-30, 12:56

duffy munn wrote:
Triple Sparty wrote:If his contact was expiring, how could he have grounds for wrongful termination based on MSU not renewing it?
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Great question.

Lack of DNA evidence is my guess. Muffy since you are so important why don't you reveal and compromise your confidential source AGAIN
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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-03-30, 13:23

There were rumors of video of the incident.

While what the suspended players allegedly did wasn't socially acceptable (which may fall under the code of conduct umbrella) if there is no DNA or worse for the accuser, the accused produce video that contradicts the accuser's account. That creates problems for the prosecutor's office.

I'm not blaming anyone but its not beyond the realm of possibility.
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Post by Blanch32 2017-03-30, 13:25

GRR Spartan wrote:There were rumors of video of the incident.

While what the suspended players allegedly did wasn't socially acceptable (which may fall under the code of conduct umbrella) if there is no DNA or worse for the accuser, the accused produce video that contradicts the accuser's account. That creates problems for the prosecutor's office.

I'm not blaming anyone but its not beyond the realm of possibility.

i.e. the go gophers defense
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Post by The_Dude 2017-03-30, 13:38

GRR Spartan wrote:There were rumors of video of the incident.

While what the suspended players allegedly did wasn't socially acceptable (which may fall under the code of conduct umbrella) if there is no DNA or worse for the accuser, the accused produce video that contradicts the accuser's account. That creates problems for the prosecutor's office.

I'm not blaming anyone but its not beyond the realm of possibility.

You're just pulling stuff out of your ass
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Post by duffy munn 2017-03-30, 13:41

tanfan! wrote:
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Great question.

Lack of DNA evidence is my guess.  Muffy since you are so important why don't you reveal and compromise your confidential source AGAIN


What the hell does DNA evidence or lack there of have to do with keeping Blackwell?

His contract is expiring, counselor. Just let it expire and be done with him.
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Post by Vlad 2017-03-30, 13:49

duffy munn wrote:
Vlad wrote:

Missed opportunities.


I've said it before: you would sooner shit your pants than tell off Izzo or Dantonio.

But you do talk awfully tough here.

You do know that I'm joking right?? Sometimes my attempts at humor land flat. Dude, I just want to take selfies with both of those once great men.

But Blackwell...no.
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Post by Vlad 2017-03-30, 13:52

duffy munn wrote:
tanfan! wrote:

Lack of DNA evidence is my guess.  Muffy since you are so important why don't you reveal and compromise your confidential source AGAIN


What the hell does DNA evidence or lack there of have to do with keeping Blackwell?

His contract is expiring, counselor. Just let it expire and be done with him.

I'm guessing MSU needs him to cooperate with the investigation. Without a contract he has no obligation to cooperate, unless the DA want to file charges directly against him.
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Post by Rocinante 2017-03-30, 15:26

Vlad wrote:
duffy munn wrote:


What the hell does DNA evidence or lack there of have to do with keeping Blackwell?

His contract is expiring, counselor. Just let it expire and be done with him.

I'm guessing MSU needs him to cooperate with the investigation. Without a contract he has no obligation to cooperate, unless the DA want to file charges directly against him.

That might be the dumbest thing I've ever read.
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Post by DWags 2017-03-30, 15:33

Vlad wrote:
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What the hell does DNA evidence or lack there of have to do with keeping Blackwell?

His contract is expiring, counselor. Just let it expire and be done with him.

I'm guessing MSU needs him to cooperate with the investigation. Without a contract he has no obligation to cooperate, unless the DA want to file charges directly against him.

Subpoenas are funny things.
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