"We need to wake up as a party..." - Sen. Graham (R)

NigelUno wrote:Lindsey Graham: Georgia primary should be a 'wake-up call'

"The south is changing. Atlanta is changing. And I like our chances in a runoff, but we need to wake up as a party," Graham said. "There's districts like this all over the country that are getting much more moderate."

LooseGoose wrote:Collins, McCain, Graham -R's that can be counted on to smear Rs.

The_Dude wrote:Isn't it great there is at least independent thought in the Reoublican party? Dems are a bunch of sheep that just go along with the groupthink without any ability to independently think.

NigelUno wrote:

The_Dude wrote:Isn't it great there is at least independent thought in the Republican party? Dems are a bunch of sheep that just go along with the groupthink without any ability to independently think.

Yeah, and your groupthink is only the Dems spent money in Georgia.



Too bad you can't independently think.

CheesySpartan wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Yeah, and your groupthink is only the Dems spent money in Georgia.



Too bad you can't independently think.

Looks like Dems spent $8M, Repubs $4M so far. Doesn't matter Repubs win by 4-5% in June.

What Dems need to figure out is that they can't just buy elections. They actually need good candidates. The fact that Ossoff doesn't even live in the district is laughable and shows the party really has no quality candidate within it.

NigelUno wrote:

CheesySpartan wrote:

Looks like Dems spent $8M, Repubs $4M so far. Doesn't matter Repubs win by 4-5% in June.

What Dems need to figure out is that they can't just buy elections. They actually need good candidates. The fact that Ossoff doesn't even live in the district is laughable and shows the party really has no quality candidate within it.

A snotnose kid who doesn't even live in the district almost won. Do they really need a quality candidate? Or does that speak to the lack of a quality candidate on the Republican side in a heavily Republican district?

A Republican candidate ran attack ads against the Republican candidate who got the most votes. That guy is out $2 million. And people rip Democrats spending? Republicans spent over $4 million on attack ads against a snotnose kid who doesn't even live in the district...and you think the Democrats have problems?

CheesySpartan wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Yeah, and your groupthink is only the Dems spent money in Georgia.



Too bad you can't independently think.

Looks like Dems spent $8M, Repubs $4M so far.  Doesn't matter Repubs win by 4-5% in June.  

What Dems need to figure out is that they can't just buy elections.  They actually need good candidates. The fact that Ossoff doesn't even live in the district is laughable and shows the party really has no quality candidate within it.

LooseGoose wrote:

CheesySpartan wrote:

Looks like Dems spent $8M, Repubs $4M so far.  Doesn't matter Repubs win by 4-5% in June.  

What Dems need to figure out is that they can't just buy elections.  They actually need good candidates. The fact that Ossoff doesn't even live in the district is laughable and shows the party really has no quality candidate within it.

And most of the 12M was spent attacking Rs since the Rs were attacking each other. That won't be the case now.

NigelUno wrote:

CheesySpartan wrote:

Looks like Dems spent $8M, Repubs $4M so far. Doesn't matter Repubs win by 4-5% in June.

What Dems need to figure out is that they can't just buy elections. They actually need good candidates. The fact that Ossoff doesn't even live in the district is laughable and shows the party really has no quality candidate within it.

A snotnose kid who doesn't even live in the district almost won. Do they really need a quality candidate? Or does that speak to the lack of a quality candidate on the Republican side in a heavily Republican district?

A Republican candidate ran attack ads against the Republican candidate who got the most votes. That guy is out $2 million. And people rip Democrats spending? Republicans spent over $4 million on attack ads against a snotnose kid who doesn't even live in the district...and you think the Democrats have problems?

CheesySpartan wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

A snotnose kid who doesn't even live in the district almost won. Do they really need a quality candidate? Or does that speak to the lack of a quality candidate on the Republican side in a heavily Republican district?

A Republican candidate ran attack ads against the Republican candidate who got the most votes. That guy is out $2 million. And people rip Democrats spending? Republicans spent over $4 million on attack ads against a snotnose kid who doesn't even live in the district...and you think the Democrats have problems?

If he loses by 8+% in June thats a blowout as far as elections go and I'll be correct. You can't buy elections with poor candidates.

NigelUno wrote:

CheesySpartan wrote:

If he loses by 8+% in June thats a blowout as far as elections go and I'll be correct. You can't buy elections with poor candidates.

You'll be correct about what? You don't think Republicans are dumping money into this election? Or do they just have a quality candidate?

NigelUno wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

And most of the 12M was spent attacking Rs since the Rs were attacking each other. That won't be the case now.

Do you have evidence of that? Or can we just call it fake news?

LooseGoose wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Do you have evidence of that? Or can we just call it fake news?

Only the word of an actual professional political commentator that lives in Georgia.

DWags wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

Only the word of an actual professional political commentator that lives in Georgia.

Link? Where did he get the data? Link that.

NigelUno wrote:

CheesySpartan wrote:

If he loses by 8+% in June thats a blowout as far as elections go and I'll be correct. You can't buy elections with poor candidates.

You'll be correct about what? You don't think Republicans are dumping money into this election? Or do they just have a quality candidate?

DWags wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

Only the word of an actual professional political commentator that lives in Georgia.

Link? Where did he get the data? Link that.

CheesySpartan wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Yeah, and your groupthink is only the Dems spent money in Georgia.



Too bad you can't independently think.

Looks like Dems spent $8M, Repubs $4M so far.  Doesn't matter Repubs win by 4-5% in June.  

What Dems need to figure out is that they can't just buy elections.  They actually need good candidates.  The fact that Ossoff doesn't even live in the district is laughable and shows the party really has no quality candidate within it.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

CheesySpartan wrote:

Looks like Dems spent $8M, Repubs $4M so far.  Doesn't matter Repubs win by 4-5% in June.  

What Dems need to figure out is that they can't just buy elections.  They actually need good candidates.  The fact that Ossoff doesn't even live in the district is laughable and shows the party really has no quality candidate within it.

What an insufferably stupid point. Is that the line on Fox News today cheesy?

Its a special election in a republican district. "Oh they have no good candidates!" Yeah, no fucking shit. This isn't something where they had years to prepare. This is a "okay who is good to go right now? You? Cool, get in there hoss." (Not that I really know much about ossoff. Seems like a nice enough bloke.) If there's a point to be made* it's that despite that they still came pretty close.

*there actually isn't a point to be made and you're all just retreating to your corners and being mouthpieces. I suggest everyone take a cable news break for a minute and really think about how much time all y'all have spent today alone talking about a special election in Georgia. Not you Nigel. You're fine. You live there.

LooseGoose wrote:

DWags wrote:

Link? Where did he get the data? Link that.

LOL, as usual - a link demand - from now on I guess I'll play this game too.

I'm watching Survivor and the Tigers so will look during commercials to find it.

But common sense should tell you it true. NO R was going to win this outright, not with 4-5 viable contenders in the race. So their opponent was NOT Ossof but the other Rs.

NigelUno wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

LOL, as usual - a link demand - from now on I guess I'll play this game too.

I'm watching Survivor and the Tigers so will look during commercials to find it.

But common sense should tell you it true. NO R was going to win this outright, not with 4-5 viable contenders in the race. So their opponent was NOT Ossof but the other Rs.

Common sense huh? No link then? No evidence then?

Ossoff's ads weren't attacking those 4 Republicans. That's just not true. He threw in an occasional zinger about Trump. If his campaign spent $8 million, it was (mostly) on ads promoting himself.

The Republicans spent over $4 million attacking Ossoff. As the election neared, there were more anti-Ossoff ads on than anything else.

Moody attacked Handel, but he didn't spend all $2 million just on that. Gray did some twitter attacks on Handel.

Most of the money was not spent attacking Republicans. That's just not true.

It's not.

Sorry.

CheesySpartan wrote:

DWags wrote:

Link? Where did he get the data? Link that.

It's fake news if he links it because the other side doesn't agree with it. So why bother?

CheesySpartan wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
What an insufferably stupid point. Is that the line on Fox News today cheesy?

Its a special election in a republican district. "Oh they have no good candidates!" Yeah, no fucking shit. This isn't something where they had years to prepare. This is a "okay who is good to go right now? You? Cool, get in there hoss." (Not that I really know much about ossoff. Seems like a nice enough bloke.) If there's a point to be made* it's that despite that they still came pretty close.

*there actually isn't a point to be made and you're all just retreating to your corners and being mouthpieces. I suggest everyone take a cable news break for a minute and really think about how much time all y'all have spent today alone talking about a special election in Georgia. Not you Nigel. You're fine. You live there.

I don't puppet.  Stupid?  Why?  I speak from my own experiences as someone who follows the political game for the last 20 years. I've voted D and R and will continue based on who I think is the best candidate, locally, nationally.  I've voted R more then D the last 6 years FWIW because here in WI that's what I agree with.  I voted D more then R prior.  Think about that.

CheesySpartan wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

Common sense huh?  No link then?  No evidence then?  

Ossoff's ads weren't attacking those 4 Republicans.  That's just not true.  He threw in an occasional zinger about Trump.  If his campaign spent $8 million, it was (mostly) on ads promoting himself.

The Republicans spent over $4 million attacking Ossoff.  As the election neared, there were more anti-Ossoff ads on than anything else.

Moody attacked Handel, but he didn't spend all $2 million just on that.  Gray did some twitter attacks on Handel.

Most of the money was not spent attacking Republicans.  That's just not true.  

It's not.  

Sorry.  

Not saying you're wrong but where is your evidence?

CheesySpartan wrote:
You can't buy elections with poor candidates.

NigelUno wrote:

CheesySpartan wrote:

Not saying you're wrong but where is your evidence?

Wait...are you asking Goose for his evidence too?  Or did you pick sides?

Here's 3 ads attacking Ossoff::







Here's a video similar to Ossoff ads that ran (notice he doesn't attack any of the Republicans running):



Most of the money was not spent attacking Republicans. It wasn't. Most of the money was spent promoting Ossoff and attacking Ossoff.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

CheesySpartan wrote:

Looks like Dems spent $8M, Repubs $4M so far.  Doesn't matter Repubs win by 4-5% in June.  

What Dems need to figure out is that they can't just buy elections.  They actually need good candidates.  The fact that Ossoff doesn't even live in the district is laughable and shows the party really has no quality candidate within it.

What an insufferably stupid point. Is that the line on Fox News today cheesy?

Its a special election in a republican district. "Oh they have no good candidates!" Yeah, no fucking shit. This isn't something where they had years to prepare. This is a "okay who is good to go right now? You? Cool, get in there hoss." (Not that I really know much about ossoff. Seems like a nice enough bloke.) If there's a point to be made* it's that despite that they still came pretty close.

*there actually isn't a point to be made and you're all just retreating to your corners and being mouthpieces. I suggest everyone take a cable news break for a minute and really think about how much time all y'all have spent today alone talking about a special election in Georgia. Not you Nigel. You're fine. You live there.

CheesySpartan wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
What an insufferably stupid point. Is that the line on Fox News today cheesy?

Its a special election in a republican district. "Oh they have no good candidates!" Yeah, no fucking shit. This isn't something where they had years to prepare. This is a "okay who is good to go right now? You? Cool, get in there hoss." (Not that I really know much about ossoff. Seems like a nice enough bloke.) If there's a point to be made* it's that despite that they still came pretty close.

*there actually isn't a point to be made and you're all just retreating to your corners and being mouthpieces. I suggest everyone take a cable news break for a minute and really think about how much time all y'all have spent today alone talking about a special election in Georgia. Not you Nigel. You're fine. You live there.

I don't puppet. Stupid? Why? I speak from my own experiences as someone who follows the political game for the last 20 years. I've voted D and R and will continue based on who I think is the best candidate, locally, nationally. I've voted R more then D the last 6 years FWIW because here in WI that's what I agree with. I voted D more then R prior. Think about that.

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Guest wrote:

DWags wrote:

Link? Where did he get the data? Link that.

LOL, as usual - a link demand - from now on I guess I'll play this game too.

I'm watching Survivor and the Tigers so will look during commercials to find it.

But common sense should tell you it true. NO R was going to win this outright, not with 4-5 viable contenders in the race. So their opponent was NOT Ossof but the other Rs.