Re: NCAA Basketball Corruption Scheme

by **InTenSity** Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:14 am

Clarett's Folly wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

You could very well be right that nothing will happen. After all, did Capone going away for tax evasion really stop organized crime?

Honestly, though, that would be fine with me. If Kansas, Duke, and UNC took a fall for shady recruiting practices but were replaced by Florida, Mizzou, and Maryland I'd be fine with it because at least it would be something different. I'm just sick of the "blue blood" programs acting like their allure is anything other than artificially inflated.

You left out Kentucky.

by **Turtleneck** Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:33 pm

InTenSity wrote:
Clarett's Folly wrote:

Honestly, though, that would be fine with me. If Kansas, Duke, and UNC took a fall for shady recruiting practices but were replaced by Florida, Mizzou, and Maryland I'd be fine with it because at least it would be something different. I'm just sick of the "blue blood" programs acting like their allure is anything other than artificially inflated.
You left out Kentucky.

Please do not upset Steve.

by MattyFresh Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:16 am

by **Floyd Robertson** Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:54 pm

Jim Larranaga: ‘I am Coach-3’ in FBI college basketball probe

CORAL GABLES — Miami coach Jim Larranaga said his legal team believes he is ‘Coach-3,’ as noted in the Department of Justice report about the FBI investigation, that he has been complying with investigators and turned over numerous emails and messages to them, and that he is thankful he was named for two reasons: he did nothing wrong, and if he is ‘Coach-3,’ that means his assistant coaches were not involved.

Larranaga uncharacteristically read from a prepared statement that revealed the above. He took questions afterward about the emotional impact, but referred all inquiries about the investigation to his statement, which said he appreciated that the media had a job to do, but that he would not offer comment.

Weird.

by **Death Roe** Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:54 pm

Miami college team in trouble with the law? I'm shocked.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:18 am

Good read on Dawkins.

https://sports.yahoo.com/meet-christian-dawkins-sloppy-reckless-prodigy-college-hoops-brink-213959726.html

by **Floyd Robertson** Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:41 pm

I'll just leave this here.

NCAA Basketball Corruption Scheme - Page 7 Goodma10

Dumbasses.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:58 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:I'll just leave this here.

Dumbasses.

NCAA Basketball Corruption Scheme - Page 7 502811600

by **tGreenWay** Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:59 pm

Gina.

by Clarett's Folly Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:00 pm

Not very Big Baller of him.

by **Turtleneck** Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:09 pm

I hear Chinese prisons are nice this time of year.

by **Floyd Robertson** Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:12 pm

Turtleneck wrote:I hear Chinese prisons are nice this time of year.

At least they had the common sense not to do it in the good old DPRK.

by **Turtleneck** Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:55 pm

I wonder if they keep him and assign him to the Chinese pro league where he has to play for free.

by **Floyd Robertson** Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:18 pm

Turtleneck wrote:I wonder if they keep him and assign him to the Chinese pro league where he has to play for free.

I wonder how many shoes Ball can sell back to the Chinese who make them for him.

by **Turtleneck** Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:24 pm

It would be sorta weird if he was sentenced to hard labor in a factory that made Big Baller shoes.

by **Turtleneck** Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:07 pm

Tried and convicted today. Sentenced to 25 years.

Based on the reported details of the situation, it is unlikely that the three UCLA basketball players who were arrested in China this week will face severe punishment, three professors who specialize in Chinese law told USA TODAY Sports on Wednesday.

Jerome Cohen, the faculty director of New York University’s U.S.-Asia Law Institute, said that if Ball and his teammates have been allowed to return to their hotel, it is “a very good sign.”

“This shows they’re getting special treatment,” Cohen said. “Normally, the Chinese do not give bail, certainly not this early in a case that they’re going to prosecute. … It usually is only given at the convenience of the police.”

“On the basis of what I know, I think the most likely outcome is that the players get sent home with a stern warning, but without serving a formal sentence of detention,” Clarke wrote in an e-mail. “They are already confined to their hotel. Perhaps the authorities will count that as a kind of time served.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2017/11/08/liangelo-ball-ucla-players-arrest-china-law-experts/846856001/

by Clarett's Folly Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:24 pm

LiAngelo Ball... Already leading the nation in steals.

by **Turtleneck** Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:28 pm

by **NigelUno** Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:22 am

Bruce Pearl not cooperating with Auburn's investigators = he gone.

Alabama's hot shot recruit is suspended.

Georgia Tech got ratted out by a guy who apparently was miffed he wasn't getting any pub from the FBI.

by **DWags** Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:36 am

NigelUno wrote:Bruce Pearl not cooperating with Auburn's investigators = he gone.

Alabama's hot shot recruit is suspended.

Georgia Tech got ratted out by a guy who apparently was miffed he wasn't getting any pub from the FBI.

What the fuck is wrong with people

by **NigelUno** Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:56 am

DWags wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Bruce Pearl not cooperating with Auburn's investigators = he gone.

Alabama's hot shot recruit is suspended.

Georgia Tech got ratted out by a guy who apparently was miffed he wasn't getting any pub from the FBI.

What the fuck is wrong with people

I'd be shocked if Josh Pastner (GT Coach) survives this. The guy has been helping him going back to his Memphis days. They had a falling out. Maybe Pastner caught wind of the FBI sniffing around and tried to cut him loose. The guy is pissed. Local radio station talked to the reporter (who talked to the handler) about why the handler decided to go public...and that was one of the reasons...the guy was like 'what about me?' NCAA Basketball Corruption Scheme - Page 7 502811600

by **Nordic** Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:44 am

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:

What the fuck is wrong with people

I'd be shocked if Josh Pastner (GT Coach) survives this. The guy has been helping him going back to his Memphis days. They had a falling out. Maybe Pastner caught wind of the FBI sniffing around and tried to cut him loose. The guy is pissed. Local radio station talked to the reporter (who talked to the handler) about why the handler decided to go public...and that was one of the reasons...the guy was like 'what about me?'

This Bell character sounds like a whack-a-do

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/josh-pastner-georgia-tech-accused-of-underplaying-violations-by-jilted-friend/

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:03 pm

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:

What the fuck is wrong with people

I'd be shocked if Josh Pastner (GT Coach) survives this. The guy has been helping him going back to his Memphis days. They had a falling out. Maybe Pastner caught wind of the FBI sniffing around and tried to cut him loose. The guy is pissed. Local radio station talked to the reporter (who talked to the handler) about why the handler decided to go public...and that was one of the reasons...the guy was like 'what about me?'

That’s awesome. NCAA Basketball Corruption Scheme - Page 7 502811600

Where’s duff to talk about the integrity? lol!

by **NigelUno** Thu Nov 09, 2017 12:38 pm

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I'd be shocked if Josh Pastner (GT Coach) survives this. The guy has been helping him going back to his Memphis days. They had a falling out. Maybe Pastner caught wind of the FBI sniffing around and tried to cut him loose. The guy is pissed. Local radio station talked to the reporter (who talked to the handler) about why the handler decided to go public...and that was one of the reasons...the guy was like 'what about me?'

That’s awesome.

Where’s duff to talk about the integrity?

There have always been rumors about Pastner being shady. Probably why Memphis was fine letting him go to GT.

And there are a lot of these guys around.

by **tGreenWay** Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:09 pm

This is an ominous report. Likely some very nervous coaches and schools right now.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-college-hoops-corruption-case-poised-take-hall-fame-coaches-top-programs-lottery-picks-224417174.html

by SawGreen Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:12 pm

tGreenWay wrote:This is an ominous report. Likely some very nervous coaches and schools right now.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-college-hoops-corruption-case-poised-take-hall-fame-coaches-top-programs-lottery-picks-224417174.html

Yeah, pretty spooky. If MSU is implicated, I can't imagine it runs as deep as other programs simply from all of the recruiting losses Izzo has suffered.

How many hall of fame coaches are coaching right now?

by Guest Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:16 pm

SawGreen wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:This is an ominous report. Likely some very nervous coaches and schools right now.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-college-hoops-corruption-case-poised-take-hall-fame-coaches-top-programs-lottery-picks-224417174.html

Yeah, pretty spooky. If MSU is implicated, I can't imagine it runs as deep as other programs simply from all of the recruiting losses Izzo has suffered.

How many hall of fame coaches are coaching right now?

Boeheim
Ol' Roy
K

I'm sure there are more....

by MattyFresh Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:24 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
SawGreen wrote:

Yeah, pretty spooky. If MSU is implicated, I can't imagine it runs as deep as other programs simply from all of the recruiting losses Izzo has suffered.

How many hall of fame coaches are coaching right now?

Boeheim
Ol' Roy
K

I'm sure there are more....

Cal and Mullen as a player

by **kingstonlake** Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:10 pm

LooseGoose wrote:
SawGreen wrote:

Yeah, pretty spooky. If MSU is implicated, I can't imagine it runs as deep as other programs simply from all of the recruiting losses Izzo has suffered.

How many hall of fame coaches are coaching right now?

Boeheim
Ol' Roy
K

I'm sure there are more....

That little round table a couple months ago with those three threw up red flags for me. Ole Roy saying the FBI should have better things to do than worry about NCAA basketball.

by MattyFresh Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:13 pm

kingstonlake wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Boeheim
Ol' Roy
K

I'm sure there are more....

That little round table a couple months ago with those three threw up red flags for me. Ole Roy saying the FBI should have better things to do than worry about NCAA basketball.

not to wells it up but the angle that the FBI had messed up with the investigation of a school shooter who murdered 17 people this week but is wrapping up this college basketball case doesn't seem right.

by **tGreenWay** Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:21 pm

SawGreen wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:This is an ominous report. Likely some very nervous coaches and schools right now.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-college-hoops-corruption-case-poised-take-hall-fame-coaches-top-programs-lottery-picks-224417174.html

Yeah, pretty spooky. If MSU is implicated, I can't imagine it runs as deep as other programs simply from all of the recruiting losses Izzo has suffered.

How many hall of fame coaches are coaching right now?

Truthfully, I’d put the odds of Tom Izzo being a cheater right there with his being a heroin addict. That’s not to say it doesn’t or hasn’t happened here. I guess there’s a chance of a rogue assistant or alumnus getting out of control. But Izzo personally cheating or looking the other way while it’s happening? I might have to check out of sports entirely—that’s how shocked I’d be.

by Guest Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:33 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
SawGreen wrote:

Yeah, pretty spooky. If MSU is implicated, I can't imagine it runs as deep as other programs simply from all of the recruiting losses Izzo has suffered.

How many hall of fame coaches are coaching right now?

Truthfully, I’d put the odds of Tom Izzo being a cheater right there with his being a heroin addict. That’s not to say it doesn’t or hasn’t happened here. I guess there’s a chance of a rogue assistant or alumnus getting out of control. But Izzo personally cheating or looking the other way while it’s happening? I might have to check out of sports entirely—that’s how shocked I’d be.

Yeah, I'm about where you are - and I don't see any of his three assistants cheating either especially Garland or Fife....and that leaves Stephens and he's pretty unlikely too....I'd make him the most likely at about 250-1 against.

by **MiamiSpartan** Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:08 pm

If Izzo is cheating, he is really, really bad at it.

Izzo still has to deal with some guys that have hangers on, and we don't know what they might have going on on the side. That's the only bit of concern that I have. Good luck getting ESPN to absolve him of wrong doing if any players or someone a player knows ever took so much as a stick of gum from someone.

by **kingstonlake** Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:19 am

Report says "almost half" of top 16 seeds could be affected. So let's say 6 or 7.

Locks for corruption.

NC
Tenn
Purdue
Kansas

That leaves 2-3 between Duke, OSU, Clemson, Auburn, Cinn, MSU, Virginia, Xavier, Villanova, Virginia, Zona, OK.

by aualum06 Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:22 am

kingstonlake wrote:Report says "almost half" of top 16 seeds could be affected. So let's say 6 or 7.

Locks for corruption.

NC
Tenn
Purdue
Kansas

That leaves 2-3 between Duke, OSU, Clemson, Auburn, Cinn, MSU, Virginia, Xavier, Villanova, Virginia, Zona, OK.

You can put Auburn on the lock line. Bruce Pearl

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:24 am

Why did you say Purdue is a lock

by Guest Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:34 am

kingstonlake wrote:Report says "almost half" of top 16 seeds could be affected. So let's say 6 or 7.

Locks for corruption.

NC
Tenn
Purdue
Kansas

That leaves 2-3 between Duke, OSU, Clemson, Auburn, Cinn, MSU, Virginia, Xavier, Villanova, Virginia, Zona, OK.

Any post without Kentucky on the "lock line" is questionable.

by **NigelUno** Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:37 am

kingstonlake wrote:Report says "almost half" of top 16 seeds could be affected. So let's say 6 or 7.

Locks for corruption.

NC
Tenn
Purdue
Kansas

That leaves 2-3 between Duke, OSU, Clemson, Auburn, Cinn, MSU, Virginia, Xavier, Villanova, Virginia, Zona, OK.

The locks so far are Kansas, Arizona, and Auburn. They have all been previously mentioned.

Xavier could be lumped in due to connections with Arizona.

by **NigelUno** Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:37 am

LooseGoose wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Report says "almost half" of top 16 seeds could be affected. So let's say 6 or 7.

Locks for corruption.

NC
Tenn
Purdue
Kansas

That leaves 2-3 between Duke, OSU, Clemson, Auburn, Cinn, MSU, Virginia, Xavier, Villanova, Virginia, Zona, OK.

Any post without Kentucky on the "lock line" is questionable.

They're not a Top 16 team.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:39 am

LooseGoose wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Report says "almost half" of top 16 seeds could be affected. So let's say 6 or 7.

Locks for corruption.

NC
Tenn
Purdue
Kansas

That leaves 2-3 between Duke, OSU, Clemson, Auburn, Cinn, MSU, Virginia, Xavier, Villanova, Virginia, Zona, OK.

Any post without Kentucky on the "lock line" is questionable.

Disagree. Cal or Kentucky don’t need to. Maybe at umass he needed to. Maybe though.

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