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Post by NigelUno 2017-11-02, 20:44

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21268149/louisville-cardinals-freshman-brian-bowen-cleared-fbi-college-basketball-investigation

Federal documents allege that Adidas funneled $100,000 to an unnamed player -- later identified as Bowen -- to sign with Louisville, at the request of a Cardinals coach.

Bowen's lawyer has maintained his client was not privy to the bribe, which allegedly went to Brian Bowen Sr.
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Post by duffy munn 2017-11-02, 20:57

NigelUno wrote:http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21268149/louisville-cardinals-freshman-brian-bowen-cleared-fbi-college-basketball-investigation

Federal documents allege that Adidas funneled $100,000 to an unnamed player -- later identified as Bowen -- to sign with Louisville, at the request of a Cardinals coach.

Bowen's lawyer has maintained his client was not privy to the bribe, which allegedly went to Brian Bowen Sr.

yeah, Brian Bowen didn't know anything about the cash and just decided, out of no where, to go to Louisville. And Pitino knew nothing too.

Plausible deniability. Laughable.
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Post by DWags 2017-11-02, 21:13

America sucks sometimes
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Post by y2kMgrad 2017-11-02, 21:16

Oh, it went to his dad. Nothing to see here then.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2017-11-02, 21:18

He should still play.
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Post by DWags 2017-11-02, 21:19

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:He should still play.

Yep. I guarantee you there are kids playing who got way more than he did.
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Post by duffy munn 2017-11-02, 21:32

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:He should still play.

College basketball? At Louisville? Yeah, this sends the right message.

I think Pitino should still coach too.
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Post by duffy munn 2017-11-02, 21:33

DWags wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:He should still play.

Yep. I guarantee you there are kids playing who got way more than he did.

He got caught.
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Post by Clarett's Folly 2017-11-02, 21:38

What in the fuck? This is beyond fucking stupid.
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Post by I.B. Fine 2017-11-02, 21:42

DWags wrote:America sucks sometimes
That's a pretty large leap of logic there. We're talking crooked college sports.
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Post by DWags 2017-11-02, 21:45

I.B. Fine wrote:
DWags wrote:America sucks sometimes
That's a pretty large leap of logic there. We're talking crooked college sports.

I thought we were talking Justice.

Ok fuck it. It is only college basketball when it comes down to it. Really doesn’t matter.
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Post by DWags 2017-11-02, 21:46

duffy munn wrote:
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Yep. I guarantee you there are kids playing who got way more than he did.

He got caught.

No he didn’t. His dad did. He just went to Louisville
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DWags wrote:
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That's a pretty large leap of logic there. We're talking crooked college sports.

I thought we were talking Justice.

Ok fuck it. It is only college basketball when it comes down to it. Really doesn’t matter.

This.
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Post by duffy munn 2017-11-02, 21:55

DWags wrote:
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He got caught.

No he didn’t. His dad did. He just went to Louisville

Come on Dwags. Louisville wasn't even on this kids radar and suddenly he signs with them. If the NCAA or Louisville lets him play, the message is pretty clear.

Cheating is ok ( not that the NCAA has done much about it in the past). I guess the fans are now good with it too.

I'm not.
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Post by duffy munn 2017-11-02, 21:57

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DWags wrote:

I thought we were talking Justice.

Ok fuck it. It is only college basketball when it comes down to it. Really doesn’t matter.

This.

If he had committed to MSU under the same circumstances, would you be good with it and just "let him play"?
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2017-11-02, 21:59

duffy munn wrote:
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This.

If he had committed to MSU under the same circumstances, would you be good with it and just "let him play"?

Yes.
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Post by y2kMgrad 2017-11-02, 22:02

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No he didn’t.  His dad did. He just went to Louisville

Come on Dwags. Louisville wasn't even on this kids radar and suddenly he signs with them. If the NCAA or Louisville lets him play, the message is pretty clear.

Cheating is ok ( not that the NCAA has done much about it in the past). I guess the fans are now good with it too.

I'm not.

The NCAA has made it clear that they'd rather allow this stuff to go on in CBB and just give the school a slap on the wrist than pay the players. Look what happened at UNC. It will be very interesting to see what they'll do when Lavar Ball's son LeMongelo or whatever pulls up to Pauley Pavilion in his Lambo.


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Post by Clarett's Folly 2017-11-02, 22:04

DWags wrote:
I.B. Fine wrote:
That's a pretty large leap of logic there. We're talking crooked college sports.

I thought we were talking Justice.

Ok fuck it. It is only college basketball when it comes down to it. Really doesn’t matter.

On one hand yeah it really doesn't matter. On the other hand it's not like this is a law and business ethics blog and the talk has turned to college basketball. Sports is kind of our thing over here.
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Post by DWags 2017-11-02, 22:06

duffy munn wrote:
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No he didn’t. His dad did. He just went to Louisville

Come on Dwags. Louisville wasn't even on this kids radar and suddenly he signs with them. If the NCAA or Louisville lets him play, the message is pretty clear.

Cheating is ok ( not that the NCAA has done much about it in the past). I guess the fans are now good with it too.

I'm not.

I’m glad Tom Izzo doesn’t do it. But the ncaa doesn’t care and there’s no repercussions by the ncaa. Depressing. I just hope our guys win.
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Post by I.B. Fine 2017-11-02, 22:07

duffy munn wrote:
DWags wrote:

No he didn’t.  His dad did. He just went to Louisville

Come on Dwags. Louisville wasn't even on this kids radar and suddenly he signs with them. If the NCAA or Louisville lets him play, the message is pretty clear.

Cheating is ok ( not that the NCAA has done much about it in the past). I guess the fans are now good with it too.

I'm not.

When has the NCAA actually shown they are a credible governing body when it comes to money making teams?
Was it the NCAA that took down Pitino?


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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2017-11-02, 22:08

I don’t know, having Josh Jackson last year would have been pretty neat.
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Post by DWags 2017-11-02, 22:09

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duffy munn wrote:

Come on Dwags. Louisville wasn't even on this kids radar and suddenly he signs with them. If the NCAA or Louisville lets him play, the message is pretty clear.

Cheating is ok ( not that the NCAA has done much about it in the past). I guess the fans are now good with it too.

I'm not.

When has the NCAA actually shown they are a credible governing body when it comes to money making sports?
Was it the NCAA that took down Pitino?

Ncaa did not take down Michigan and that filth either. FBI and subpoenas did.

Fuck the ncaa and putting us on probation in 78
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Post by duffy munn 2017-11-02, 22:13

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duffy munn wrote:

If he had committed to MSU under the same circumstances, would you be good with it and just "let him play"?

Yes.

So if Izzo decides to start cheating, you're good.

Got it.

Part of the reason I love Tom Izzo and MSU basketball is because he is not Rick Pitino.

I love him because he can still win without this bullshit.

I don't want to be Louisville or Kentucky or the fab fucking five.

I guess you do. To each their own.
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Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:I don’t know, having Josh Jackson last year would have been pretty neat.

Be filthy fucking dirty so you can win. And Kansas didn't.
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duffy munn wrote:
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Yes.

So if Izzo decides to start cheating, you're good.

Got it.

Part of the reason I love Tom Izzo and MSU basketball is because he is not Rick Pitino.

I love him because he can still win without this bullshit.

I don't want to be Louisville or Kentucky or the fab fucking five.

I guess you do. To each their own.

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Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

So if Izzo decides to start cheating, you're good.

Got it.

Part of the reason I love Tom Izzo and MSU basketball is because he is not Rick Pitino.

I love him because he can still win without this bullshit.

I don't want to be Louisville or Kentucky or the fab fucking five.

I guess you do. To each their own.

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It's about integrity.
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Post by tGreenWay 2017-11-02, 22:31

DWags wrote:
I.B. Fine wrote:

When has the NCAA actually shown they are a credible governing body when it comes to money making sports?
Was it the NCAA that took down Pitino?

Ncaa did not take down Michigan and that filth either. FBI and subpoenas did.

Fuck the ncaa and putting us on probation in 78

I think that's why I'm so anti-cheating. The penalties that kept us out of the Rose Bowl dated back to what, '73? It was a painful time. Maybe it's because I was a kid, but I was sort of ashamed for my favorite school because, back then, getting caught meant there was a dark cloud hanging over your school. Even the infractions during the Perles years sucked. The loss of scholarships that we imposed on ourselves (to satisfy the NCAA) had a huge impact on Saban's early years. I also think we probably wouldn't be treated the same as the bigger name schools like a Kansas or UNC.
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Post by NigelUno 2017-11-02, 23:04

duffy munn wrote:
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This.

If he had committed to MSU under the same circumstances, would you be good with it and just "let him play"?

I don't think the NCAA allows straight cash payments to parents though.
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Post by InTenSity 2017-11-02, 23:08

Lemme get this straight. A kid who took a summer class at a school can't play because he transferred to another school before practice of the season started. A guy who's parents took 100k and guided him to a school is probably going to be eligible to play?
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Post by duffy munn 2017-11-02, 23:29

InTenSity wrote:Lemme get this straight. A kid who took a summer class at a school can't play because he transferred to another school before practice of the season started. A guy who's parents took 100k and guided him to a school is probably going to be eligible to play?

Yep. Just let him play.
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Post by Da Mayor 2017-11-02, 23:42

So who's paying for the lawyer? If his dad is and the lawyer is trying to pin it on Pops, that's some shit Brian Bowen cleared by FBI because the $100,000 went to his dad 502811600
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InTenSity wrote:Lemme get this straight. A kid who took a summer class at a school can't play because he transferred to another school before practice of the season started. A guy who's parents took 100k and guided him to a school is probably going to be eligible to play?

The FBI cleared Jr. of taking the money (or knowing about it). I don't think that will change the NCAA's position on it. They added a rule after the Cam Newton situation regarding parents acting as agents. If Louisville let him play, that would harm them big time in a suit with Pitino. Alexander (@ Kansas) was ruled ineligible when news of his mom taking a loan came out. No way he plays at Louisville. If he hasn't transferred already, he needs to get out of there pronto. Maybe he could play D1 somewhere else by January 2019.
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Da Mayor wrote:So who's paying for the lawyer? If his dad is and the lawyer is trying to pin it on Pops, that's some shit Brian Bowen cleared by FBI because the $100,000 went to his dad 502811600

I doubt Jr. was negotiating payments.
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NigelUno wrote:
Da Mayor wrote:So who's paying for the lawyer? If his dad is and the lawyer is trying to pin it on Pops, that's some shit Brian Bowen cleared by FBI because the $100,000 went to his dad 502811600

I doubt Jr. was negotiating payments.

Exactly. Sr is paying for a lawyer who's pinning it on him Brian Bowen cleared by FBI because the $100,000 went to his dad 502811600
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Post by duffy munn 2017-11-03, 08:52

NigelUno wrote:
Da Mayor wrote:So who's paying for the lawyer? If his dad is and the lawyer is trying to pin it on Pops, that's some shit Brian Bowen cleared by FBI because the $100,000 went to his dad 502811600

I doubt Jr. was negotiating payments.

Yeah but to think he didn't know about them is crazy.

I imagine to conversation went a little like this:

Dad: you're going to Louisville

Jr: Why? I've never even been there or met Rick Pitino

Dad: minor details, you're going

Jr: Ok
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Jr: Let me fix my hair.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2017-11-03, 08:56

NCAA uses a velvet hammer on UNC after decades of academic fraud is proven and now it won’t declar Bowen ineligible because of a technicality?

Then they wonder why some fans think the fix is in on NCAA tournament games.
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Da Mayor wrote:So who's paying for the lawyer? If his dad is and the lawyer is trying to pin it on Pops, that's some shit Brian Bowen cleared by FBI because the $100,000 went to his dad 502811600
I thought you got banned for making racist comments in a Halloween thread? Which is ironic seeing as you have a biracial child....

Silk Road, bro. Silk Road.
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Da Mayor wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

I doubt Jr. was negotiating payments.

Exactly. Sr is paying for a lawyer who's pinning it on him Brian Bowen cleared by FBI because the $100,000 went to his dad 502811600

The lawyer is trying to get Jr. eligible. The lawyer isn't pinning it on Sr. There are phone calls which implicate Sr.
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Post by steveschneider 2017-11-03, 10:16

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No he didn’t. His dad did. He just went to Louisville

Come on Dwags. Louisville wasn't even on this kids radar and suddenly he signs with them. If the NCAA or Louisville lets him play, the message is pretty clear.

Cheating is ok ( not that the NCAA has done much about it in the past). I guess the fans are now good with it too.

I'm not.

When a kid can game a corrupt billion dollar industry for 100k I say good for the kid. Looks like the NCAA got a taste of their own medicine. There's things beyond the playing field or the court that matter more.
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