Average weight of cow pre-slaughter in 1975= 996 Lbs. average weight in 2017 about 1400 lbs.

Yeah, that’s about 9 lbs a year. We’re ingesting so many hormones it’s rediculous. Slaughter houses are actually having trouble figuring out how to cut it up.

“, experts say, U.S. ranchers now produce more beef at a lower cost than they did 40 years ago, even though herds have shrunk by 13 million.

But larger cattle also means larger muscles. For restaurants and grocery stores, that has proved a challenge.

“It’s a lot more work for our meat-cutters, I’ll tell you that,” said Travis Doster, the spokesman for Texas Roadhouse, a steakhouse chain with more than 400 locations.”

Cows getting too big?

disturbing.

I pretty much mock the Whole Foods folks relentlessly (for good reason most of the time), but when we do meat we almost always get it from there for a variety of reasons including animal welfare, absence of antibiotics, grass-fed, no additional hormones, etc.

Obviously, cows are lazy ass fuckers.

It’s sad. Child cows need to get outside and play more and put down the video games and raw milk

Thanks Trump.

Yes but humans are bigger too. So what's the point?

It’s kind of put me off of beef a bit.

DWags wrote:It’s kind of put me off of beef a bit.

I have bad news dwags....

DWags wrote:It’s kind of put me off of beef a bit.

YEAY! More for me.

TheReal_LWS wrote:

DWags wrote:It’s kind of put me off of beef a bit.

YEAY! More for me.

I think you misspelled for.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

DWags wrote:It’s kind of put me off of beef a bit.

I have bad news dwags....

Chickens too?

DWags wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

I have bad news dwags....

Chickens too?

And pork. And fish.

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

DWags wrote:

Chickens too?

And pork. And fish.

I remember when oysters were the size of dimes.......

TheReal_LWS wrote:

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

And pork. And fish.

I remember when oysters were the size of dimes.......

My waist also.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:disturbing.

I pretty much mock the Whole Foods folks relentlessly (for good reason most of the time), but when we do meat we almost always get it from there for a variety of reasons including animal welfare, absence of antibiotics, grass-fed, no additional hormones, etc.

Yes, nothing speaks to animal welfare like murdering animals.

I think cows down here are mostly for dairy, so I suppose this isn't relevant to the thread, but Florida cows are a lot thinner than those Michigan heifers (and I'm not only speaking about UM's co-eds). Probably a natural reaction to insulate themselves from the cold up there, or they sweat so much down here that they don't build up as much weight.

However, to the point of the thread, while I know a lot of hormones are injected in to them, are there other factors, as well? Breeding, for example. Not to be the Jimmy The Greek of cattle, but if you get a big bull together with a big cow, it will likely have a big calf. Also, better feeding, better care (before the slaughterhouse anyway), etc. Same kind of things that cause people to get bigger and stronger over time. Again, I'm not at all discounting hormones, as that's a big jump over 42 years, but I wonder what the natural increase would be without hormones.

Turtleneck wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:disturbing.

I pretty much mock the Whole Foods folks relentlessly (for good reason most of the time), but when we do meat we almost always get it from there for a variety of reasons including animal welfare, absence of antibiotics, grass-fed, no additional hormones, etc.

Yes, nothing speaks to animal welfare like murdering animals.

I hope I can die a happy death.

MiamiSpartan wrote:I think cows down here are mostly for dairy, so I suppose this isn't relevant to the thread, but Florida cows are a lot thinner than those Michigan heifers (and I'm not only speaking about UM's co-eds). Probably a natural reaction to insulate themselves from the cold up there, or they sweat so much down here that they don't build up as much weight.

However, to the point of the thread, while I know a lot of hormones are injected in to them, are there other factors, as well? Breeding, for example. Not to be the Jimmy The Greek of cattle, but if you get a big bull together with a big cow, it will likely have a big calf. Also, better feeding, better care (before the slaughterhouse anyway), etc. Same kind of things that cause people to get bigger and stronger over time. Again, I'm not at all discounting hormones, as that's a big jump over 42 years, but I wonder what the natural increase would be without hormones.

Let’s talk cow fucking

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

Yes, nothing speaks to animal welfare like murdering animals.

I hope I can die a happy death.

I’m gonna have a shit ton of beef and cake at my wake.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

Yes, nothing speaks to animal welfare like murdering animals.

I hope I can die a happy death.

It's funny when people say they only eat meat that has been humanely slaughtered. It makes zero sense.

Turtleneck wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: I hope I can die a happy death.

It's funny when people say they only eat meat that has been humanely slaughtered. It makes zero sense.

I eat meat because it tastes good. Real good.

This thread initially made me want a steak for lunch but that picture of a cow has me craving Chick fil a now because he reminds me of their commercial. LWS don't tell your buddies at camp but I still like those chicken sandwiches.

DWags wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

It's funny when people say they only eat meat that has been humanely slaughtered. It makes zero sense.

I eat meat because it tastes good. Real good.

...and that is just fine, DWags.

I cut way back on the amount of red meat and pork that I eat.
Try to eat more vegetables in my 40's. Looking into getting a good juicer as well. I just want to eat healthy and stave off the aging process at this point.

steveschneider wrote:I cut way back on the amount of red meat and pork that I eat.  
Try to eat more vegetables in my 40's. Looking into getting a good juicer as well. I just want to eat healthy and stave off the aging process at this point.

You can't do that, Steve. You're older right now than when you made that post.

And this will put you off chickens. But it might speak to Bob’s humane way of killing vs not so humane. Tyson contractors abusing chickens.

People too...

"On average, both men and women gained more than 24 pounds between the early 1960s and 2002," says the CDC in its report, Mean Body Weight, Height, and Body Mass Index, United States 1960-2002.

https://www.webmd.com/men/news/20041027/average-weight-for-americans-growing-heavier#1

MiamiSpartan wrote:I think cows down here are mostly for dairy, so I suppose this isn't relevant to the thread, but Florida cows are a lot thinner than those Michigan heifers (and I'm not only speaking about UM's co-eds). Probably a natural reaction to insulate themselves from the cold up there, or they sweat so much down here that they don't build up as much weight.

However, to the point of the thread, while I know a lot of hormones are injected in to them, are there other factors, as well? Breeding, for example. Not to be the Jimmy The Greek of cattle, but if you get a big bull together with a big cow, it will likely have a big calf. Also, better feeding, better care (before the slaughterhouse anyway), etc. Same kind of things that cause people to get bigger and stronger over time. Again, I'm not at all discounting hormones, as that's a big jump over 42 years, but I wonder what the natural increase would be without hormones.

MMMMMmmmm. Raw milk!

SawGreen wrote:People too...

"On average, both men and women gained more than 24 pounds between the early 1960s and 2002," says the CDC in its report, Mean Body Weight, Height, and Body Mass Index, United States 1960-2002.

https://www.webmd.com/men/news/20041027/average-weight-for-americans-growing-heavier#1

Some of those are children that are skewing the average though. They probably gained between 150-200 pounds per person over that time. So I don’t think that’s fair.

SawGreen wrote:People too...

"On average, both men and women gained more than 24 pounds between the early 1960s and 2002," says the CDC in its report, Mean Body Weight, Height, and Body Mass Index, United States 1960-2002.

https://www.webmd.com/men/news/20041027/average-weight-for-americans-growing-heavier#1

A little bit of a misconception though, since we also have a higher average height. Certain diminutive posters not withstanding.

Turtleneck wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote: I hope I can die a happy death.

It's funny when people say they only eat meat that has been humanely slaughtered. It makes zero sense.

I don't really keep up with such things..

but, according to my wife - who is much smarter and more knowledgeable than I am - the methods by which an animal is slaughtered for consumption can impact the levels of stress hormones found within the meat and those stress-related hormones potentially can have a detrimental impact on the person consuming the meat.

so I'm told. Maybe the fine folks at Whole Foods and similar peddlers of consumable carcasses tell folks that to make us feel better about spending more money for it. I don't know - I just shovel the driveway and mow the lawn.  

steveschneider wrote:I cut way back on the amount of red meat and pork that I eat.  
Try to eat more vegetables in my 40's. Looking into getting a good juicer as well. I just want to eat healthy and stave off the aging process at this point.

 I make a smoothie every single morning:

1 banana
1 serving of blueberries
1 serving of spinach
1 serving of pineapple
1 cup of coconut water
1 tbsp of acacia fiber
1 tbsp of psyllium husk

packed with nutrients and fiber.. and is quite filling.

and I don't look or feel a day over 75.

DWags wrote:It’s kind of put me off of beef a bit.

DWags wrote:I eat meat because it tastes good. Real good.

Well, that lasted all of an hour and 17 minutes.

MiamiSpartan wrote:

DWags wrote:It’s kind of put me off of beef a bit.

DWags wrote:I eat meat because it tastes good. Real good.

Well, that lasted all of an hour and 17 minutes.

MiamiSpartan wrote:

DWags wrote:It’s kind of put me off of beef a bit.

DWags wrote:I eat meat because it tastes good. Real good.

Well, that lasted all of an hour and 17 minutes.

No, I still haven’t eaten beef today. But I did say why I do it.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

steveschneider wrote:I cut way back on the amount of red meat and pork that I eat.  
Try to eat more vegetables in my 40's. Looking into getting a good juicer as well. I just want to eat healthy and stave off the aging process at this point.

 I make a smoothie every single morning:

1 banana
1 serving of blueberries
1 serving of spinach
1 serving of pineapple
1 cup of coconut water
1 tbsp of acacia fiber
1 tbsp of psyllium husk

packed with nutrients and fiber.. and is quite filling.

and I don't look or feel a day over 75.

Is the fruit kept in the fridge?

DWags wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
 I make a smoothie every single morning:

1 banana
1 serving of blueberries
1 serving of spinach
1 serving of pineapple
1 cup of coconut water
1 tbsp of acacia fiber
1 tbsp of psyllium husk

packed with nutrients and fiber.. and is quite filling.

and I don't look or feel a day over 75.

Is the fruit kept in the fridge?

all but the bananas.

we usually buy it in bulk - so a few cartons of blueberries sitting at room temp might over-ripen over the course of 4-5 days. I restock it all every 2-3 days, though - rotating everything.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

DWags wrote:

Is the fruit kept in the fridge?

all but the bananas.

we usually buy it in bulk - so a few cartons of blueberries sitting at room temp might over-ripen over the course of 4-5 days. I restock it all every 2-3 days, though - rotating everything.

Good man.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

steveschneider wrote:I cut way back on the amount of red meat and pork that I eat.  
Try to eat more vegetables in my 40's. Looking into getting a good juicer as well. I just want to eat healthy and stave off the aging process at this point.

 I make a smoothie every single morning:

1 banana
1 serving of blueberries
1 serving of spinach
1 serving of pineapple
1 cup of coconut water
1 tbsp of acacia fiber
1 tbsp of psyllium husk

packed with nutrients and fiber.. and is quite filling.

and I don't look or feel a day over 75.

Sounds great. What kind of blender you using?

DWags wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:all but the bananas.

we usually buy it in bulk - so a few cartons of blueberries sitting at room temp might over-ripen over the course of 4-5 days. I restock it all every 2-3 days, though - rotating everything.

Good man.