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Post by DWags Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:41 pm

I mean, if this is true, it’s pretty damn cool.

Mini sub for kids 8 hours away from being done. Then the flight to Thailand
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Post by kingstonlake Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:54 pm

This has a smell of self promotion. Thought I heard some of the spaces were so small that divers had to remove their tanks to get through. Soccer team to be rescued by spacex? 2599972566
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:55 pm

Yeah. I mean I love it, and I'm not going to go as far as accusing him of self promotion. I think he's trying to help. But that passage is less than 1 meter in some places and under water. I'm skeptical that he can come up with a solution that works. But I hope he can.
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Post by kingstonlake Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:58 pm

Which begs the question..... If some of these spaces are one meter in diameter..... WTF are they doing going through these tight spaces with little kids?
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Post by Heat Miser Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:21 pm

kingstonlake wrote:Which begs the question..... If some of these spaces are one meter in diameter..... WTF are they doing going through these tight spaces with little kids?

Ever heard of "Fat Man's Misery" at Mammoth Cave in Kentucky?
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:33 pm

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Post by DWags Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:36 pm

Yeah no way I go there
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Post by kingstonlake Sat Jul 07, 2018 11:37 pm

Heat Miser wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Which begs the question..... If some of these spaces are one meter in diameter..... WTF are they doing going through these tight spaces with little kids?
Ever heard of "Fat Man's Misery" at Mammoth Cave in Kentucky?

Sounds pretty self explanatory, lol.
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Post by InTenSity Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:46 am

Reports that 3 boys are out.
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Post by steveschneider Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:48 am

InTenSity wrote:Reports that 3 boys are out.

Saw that as well. Thank heavens.
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Post by DWags Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:59 am

InTenSity wrote:Reports that 3 boys are out.

Watching now. What does that mean for the rest? Hopefully it means they’re still coming. Sounds like they decided to just use a bunch of divers. Maybe one escort per kid?
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Post by InTenSity Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:15 am

DWags wrote:
InTenSity wrote:Reports that 3 boys are out.

Watching now. What does that mean for the rest? Hopefully it means they’re still coming. Sounds like they decided to just use a bunch of divers. Maybe one escort per kid?
I hope they're taking the weakest kids first. Water levels are the lowest they've been and there is rain on the way. Basically it's now or never. I thought I read they are taking one boy at a time to a certain place, once they get to that shot they can walk out or go on stretcher.
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Post by Dendrobates Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:50 am

6 boys are out.
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Post by Jake from State Farm Sun Jul 08, 2018 9:58 am

InTenSity wrote:
DWags wrote:

Watching now. What does that mean for the rest? Hopefully it means they’re still coming. Sounds like they decided to just use a bunch of divers. Maybe one escort per kid?
I hope they're taking the weakest kids first. Water levels are the lowest they've been and there is rain on the way. Basically it's now or never. I thought I read they are taking one boy at a time to a certain place, once they get to that shot they can walk out or go on stretcher.

That's what it sounded like, weakest kids go first and they're taking them out in groups of 4.
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Post by kingstonlake Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:32 am

This is a soccer team, right?

Are the divers trained to tell who's weak from the ones acting weak?
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Post by Dendrobates Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:37 am

kingstonlake wrote:This is a soccer team, right?

Are the divers trained to tell who's weak from the ones acting weak?

I thought it was more from the physicians that evaluated them in the cave, mixed in with how each kid felt.
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Post by tGreenWay Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:40 am

I wonder if the divers gave the kids a mild sedative to cut down on the chance of there being a panic attack during the rescue.
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Post by tGreenWay Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:40 am

Of course, I could be projecting.
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Post by kingstonlake Sun Jul 08, 2018 10:44 am

Dendrobates wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:This is a soccer team, right?

Are the divers trained to tell who's weak from the ones acting weak?

I thought it was more from the physicians that evaluated them in the cave, mixed in with how each kid felt.

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Post by InTenSity Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:49 am

CNN reporting that 7 boys have now been rescued.
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Post by DWags Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:05 am

Up to 8.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:19 am

I'd imagine getting the adult out is going to be the most dangerous part of the operation at this point considering how narrow some of the passageways out are.
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Post by NigelUno Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:45 am

DWags wrote:I mean, if this is true, it’s pretty damn cool.

Mini sub for kids 8 hours away from being done. Then the flight to Thailand

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016063173139427329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1016063173139427329&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2018%2F07%2F08%2Fus%2Felon-musk-thai-cave-rescue%2Findex.html

I can't believe a kid volunteered to get in that thing to test it.
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Post by InTenSity Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:26 am

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:I'd imagine getting the adult out is going to be the most dangerous part of the operation at this point considering how narrow some of the passageways out are.
So, the parents still aren't notified if their child has been rescued or not. There are 4 left and since there are no details about the other 8 that have been rescued, who knows what condition the remaining survivors are in. The adult might be the 'toughest' but the divers still have to get through the same passages, so if they can't fit, they can't get out either.
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Post by Heat Miser Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:33 am

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:I'd imagine getting the adult out is going to be the most dangerous part of the operation at this point considering how narrow some of the passageways out are.

I read the adult was in the 1st group, which I found odd. He should be last. I'd also be a little scared if I where him. The locals might lynch his ass for taking those boys in there. Or present him with a bill for the rescue effort.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:34 am

Heat Miser wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:I'd imagine getting the adult out is going to be the most dangerous part of the operation at this point considering how narrow some of the passageways out are.

I read the adult was in the 1st group, which I found odd. He should be last. I'd also be a little scared if I where him. The locals might lynch his ass for taking those boys in there. Or present him with a bill for the rescue effort.

The coach is already out? The fuck? Is there any adult staying with the remaining kids? I'll admit this thread is where I'm getting most of my info.


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Post by NigelUno Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:36 am

Heat Miser wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:I'd imagine getting the adult out is going to be the most dangerous part of the operation at this point considering how narrow some of the passageways out are.

I read the adult was in the 1st group, which I found odd. He should be last. I'd also be a little scared if I where him. The locals might lynch his ass for taking those boys in there. Or present him with a bill for the rescue effort.

I haven't seen anything that indicated the coach was rescued.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:40 am

how do they decide which order they rescue kids??

it sort of seems like time is essential here.. do they go by which kid will help them most this upcoming season on the soccer pitch? Maybe which kid's parents supplies the most orange slices after matches??

of course, I hope they rescue them all.. I was just thinking about this as I was walking for coffee.
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Post by NigelUno Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:41 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:how do they decide which order they rescue kids??

it sort of seems like time is essential here.. do they go by which kid will help them most this upcoming season on the soccer pitch? Maybe which kid's parents supplies the most orange slices after matches??

of course, I hope they rescue them all.. I was just thinking about this as I was walking for coffee.

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Post by InTenSity Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:50 am

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

I read the adult was in the 1st group, which I found odd. He should be last. I'd also be a little scared if I where him. The locals might lynch his ass for taking those boys in there. Or present him with a bill for the rescue effort.

The coach is already out? The fuck? Is there any adult staying with the remaining kids? I'll admit this thread is where I'm getting most of my info.
I haven't read anywhere that the coach is out.
I don't think the coach is going to get into any type of problems. They went to the cave to carve their names into part of it, or right their names or something, which is a tradition. While in the entrance to the cave, a storm formed and caused a flash flood and blocked the entrance. They kept moving through the caves to escape the water until they ended up wherever they were found.
Of course I'm getting a lot of my info off of Reddit, so take it with a grain of salt.

From CBS News, probably not a reliable source:
The chief the rescue mission said they are being kept apart from relatives because of infection concerns, Reuters reports. The rescued boys are in quarantine, BBC News reports.
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/thai-cave-rescue-operation-updates-thailand-boys-soccer-team-2018-07-09-live-updates/
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Post by MSU addict Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:21 am

From all of the accounts I have read, the coach remains in the cave.

Again from I have read- initially they wanted to take the strongest kids out first as they had the best chance of survival and they aren't exactly assured of success. The first four were the best able to complete the journey.

They apparently reversed course based their first experience and the advice of the doctors and the second group of four included those in the poorest health.

I also read that they had a hard time finding diving equipment for the two smallest kids.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:29 am

MSU addict wrote:From all of the accounts I have read, the coach remains in the cave.

Again from I have read- initially they wanted to take the strongest kids out first as they had the best chance of survival and they aren't exactly assured of success. The first four were the best able to complete the journey.

They apparently reversed course based their first experience and the advice of the doctors and the second group of four included those in the poorest health.

I also read that they had a hard time finding diving equipment for the two smallest kids.
I wonder what happens if there's a thai.

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Post by Nordic Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:33 pm

According this, 8 boys are out. 4 and the coach are still in the cave waiting to be rescued.

Divers rescue more boys from flooded Thailand cave, raising total saved to eight, while four boys and coach remain trapped

Monday’s rescue left the remaining four boys and their coach underground for another night... Narongsak did not say whether the weakest or strongest boys were brought out first, although the decision was made by a doctor who assessed the boys Saturday.

http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-thai-cave-rescue-continues-20180709-story.html#
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Post by Rocinante Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:35 pm

Fuck Elon Musk.
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Post by kingstonlake Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:46 am

kingstonlake wrote:This has a smell of self promotion. Thought I heard some of the spaces were so small that divers had to remove their tanks to get through. Soccer team to be rescued by spacex? 2599972566

So Musk is sending this sub when......the last two people will be pulled out today.......
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Post by SawGreen Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:44 am

kingstonlake wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:This has a smell of self promotion. Thought I heard some of the spaces were so small that divers had to remove their tanks to get through. Soccer team to be rescued by spacex? 2599972566

So Musk is sending this sub when......the last two people will be pulled out today.......

When that asteroid comes sneaking past the moon, mankind will knock on Elon Musk's door.
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Post by InTenSity Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:23 am

kingstonlake wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:This has a smell of self promotion. Thought I heard some of the spaces were so small that divers had to remove their tanks to get through. Soccer team to be rescued by spacex? 2599972566

So Musk is sending this sub when......the last two people will be pulled out today.......
The operation to get everyone out started earlier than expected. With rain on the way and oxygen levels going down, they decided to go the route they really didn't want to go, and move quickly. Elon Musk and his team, or whoever it was, was making the sub, why would they stop? You still take it there, even if it won't be used, because anything can happen and maybe they find a way that it becomes useful, best case scenario, they don't need it and everyone survives.
I thought I was cynical.
Good news is that it sounds like everyone is out. Now they all have some fungal infection. Hopefully it isn't too bad and they all survive.
Here is the cynical part in me. I read that FIFA invited the boys to the world cup final. Just because they invited them, doesn't mean they aren't going to charge them for the tickets to the game.
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Post by Rocinante Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:10 am

Oh rich people! Please save us! With all your money that you must have gotten because you’re better than us! Oh!
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:13 am

Rocinante wrote:Oh rich people! Please save us! With all your money that you must have gotten because you’re better than us! Oh!

If things went bad and they weren't able to get the kids out the way they did wouldn't it be better to have options? Or just fuck em?
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Post by InTenSity Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:14 am

Rocinante wrote:Oh rich people! Please save us! With all your money that you must have gotten because you’re better than us! Oh!
I think he was the only one. I didn't see Buffett or Gates, or El Chapo, or Zuckerburg rushing out there. There were a lot of people who helped to contribute. I guess I just don't see the bad in it. In the end, he didn't really help, but was there to help. I'm missing what's wrong with that, unless he sends the kids a bill. While funny, that would be kinda fucked up.
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