Re: Mueller investigation outcome predictions (Poll)

by **Robert J Sakimano** 19/04/19, 12:04 pm

so Sarah Huckabee Colonel Sanders lied to the American people?

I bet that makes jesus sad.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 19/04/19, 12:06 pm

Rocinante wrote:Just go back in time in your mind to literally any other point in history prior to this particular administration. If this report came out, it would absolutely end a presidency. Period. But because the public has been inoculated by the bizarro nature of this administration, it doesn't have nearly the impact it otherwise would.

honestly, are you surprised by this?

by **Rocinante** 19/04/19, 12:26 pm

Wikileaks may not have begun as a front for Russian intelligence, but it became one explicitly when Assange facilitated Edward Snowden's exfiltration to Moscow, and may have been prior to that. Trump's cheers for Russia, and praise for Wikileaks were only ever because their actions were serving his interests, not because he was in Putin's service. His attempts to obstruct the investigation were not to cover his backside with respect to Russia, they were to keep eyes off his finances. "I'm fucked" was because he knew that the investigation would ooze into his business dealings, which it did. Wire fraud, related to the payoff of women during the campaign, we know about. That investigation is ongoing, and Michael Cohen is singing. But there are 12 not publicly disclosed potential crimes that were discovered and passed off because Mueller found them to be out of the scope of the investigation. President Trump was right. He's fucked.

This isn't over. It will never be over. It's just getting started.

Have you guys ever noticed that Dantonio looks a little like Mueller?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 19/04/19, 12:37 pm

while ranting about the Mueller report, another mainstream media personality says the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator was sent to us by god..

Lou Dobbs used his Fox Business show on Thursday to rant about the Mueller report, which contained a number of damning revelations about President Donald Trump.

He then suggested that Trump could have been sent by God.

"Pastor Robert Jeffress always talks about this president. God sent this president. He is a person of providence. And I’ll tell you the evidence is accumulating mightily to support the pastor’s views."

grab 'em by the pussy.. Mueller investigation outcome predictions (Poll) - Page 13 502811600

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by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 19/04/19, 12:40 pm

Rocinante wrote:This thing is good reading. I urge anyone to read it. Very well put together and minimizes agency speak. Clearly Mueller believes that the president obstructed justice, but only chose not to charge because policy for 50 years is that you don't do that. He clearly lays out how and why congress should continue the investigation. His frustration kind of oozes off the page.

This is as far from an exoneration as you can get without being arrested.

Did you mean to link something or are you referencing the report in its entirety?

by **Rocinante** 19/04/19, 12:44 pm

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:
Rocinante wrote:This thing is good reading. I urge anyone to read it. Very well put together and minimizes agency speak. Clearly Mueller believes that the president obstructed justice, but only chose not to charge because policy for 50 years is that you don't do that. He clearly lays out how and why congress should continue the investigation. His frustration kind of oozes off the page.

This is as far from an exoneration as you can get without being arrested.

Did you mean to link something or are you referencing the report in its entirety?

No I mean the whole report. The NYTimes has put up a searchable version that works way better than the original though. I don't know if it's behind a paywall but the link is:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-document.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

by **Robert J Sakimano** 19/04/19, 12:54 pm

I never thought the Mueller report was going to do much.. a) republicans investigating republicans and reporting to republicans.. didn't take a rocket surgeon to know that.

however, I think/hope the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator's undoing may be the SDNY. If they can arrest him before chokes on a KFC chicken bone and spends eternity burning in hell with no little girls to keep him company.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 19/04/19, 01:02 pm

Rocinante wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:

Did you mean to link something or are you referencing the report in its entirety?

No I mean the whole report. The NYTimes has put up a searchable version that works way better than the original though. I don't know if it's behind a paywall but the link is:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-document.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

I found this wired article pretty palatable. Wired seems left leaning, but it basically echoed the Yahoo article that I read this morning.

https://www.wired.com/story/mueller-report-trump-obstruction-of-justice-barr/

by **Robert J Sakimano** 19/04/19, 02:06 pm

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Mueller says Russian intelligence targeted Clinton’s personal office within five hours of Trump publicly requesting it on July 27, 2016

by **Robert J Sakimano** 19/04/19, 02:32 pm

mainstream media headline: "Mueller's Report Looks Bad For Obama"...

(CNN) - The partisan warfare over the Mueller report will rage, but one thing cannot be denied: Former President Barack Obama looks just plain bad. On his watch, the Russians meddled in our democracy while his administration did nothing about it.

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by **Rocinante** 19/04/19, 02:40 pm

I mean, it's dumb without context, but when McConnell refused to work with him on a bipartisan response, he should have just announced what was going on on his own. The other part of the context is that nobody thought Trump would win until he did, so the urgency probably wasn't there.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 19/04/19, 02:57 pm

Rocinante wrote:I mean, it's dumb without context, but when McConnell refused to work with him on a bipartisan response, he should have just announced what was going on on his own. The other part of the context is that nobody thought Trump would win until he did, so the urgency probably wasn't there.

yeah the guy that wrote the article for CNN mentioned something about Democrats whining and blaming it on McConnell.

by **kingstonlake** 19/04/19, 10:13 pm

Warren in the record. Impeachment.

by **steveschneider** 20/04/19, 09:29 am

Sara Sanders found to tell reporters answers “not found on anything”. No shit?

by **Turtleneck** 20/04/19, 09:42 am

Rocinante wrote:I mean, it's dumb without context, but when McConnell refused to work with him on a bipartisan response, he should have just announced what was going on on his own. The other part of the context is that nobody thought Trump would win until he did, so the urgency probably wasn't there.

Nobody is a bit strong.

by **DWags** 20/04/19, 09:52 am

Waste of time with impeachment. Will hurt the Dems.

by **steveschneider** 20/04/19, 11:01 am

Seems like just about all of this was known, done out in the open and obvious. What irks me is shit like Sarah sanders. Anyone with a brain know she’s a liar but it took this report for people to stand up and call for her to be fired? So obvious that Barr was just Trump’s stooge and he gave Trump a favorable summary a few weeks back that the press bought into hook line and sinker. The system is fucked and all of the institutions are too dysfunctional to do anything about this national nightmare. And because of the stupid electoral college a solid chance this shit show continues on.

by **InTenSity** 21/04/19, 03:54 am

DWags wrote:Waste of time with impeachment. Will hurt the Dems.

Why do people say this? Clinton became favorable because it looked like Republicans were going after him for getting a blow job, not getting blackmailed by Russia.

by **steveschneider** 21/04/19, 07:38 am

InTenSity wrote:
DWags wrote:Waste of time with impeachment. Will hurt the Dems.
Why do people say this? Clinton became favorable because it looked like Republicans were going after him for getting a blow job, not getting blackmailed by Russia.

I think the house should move to impeach at the very least to send a message. Read up on Trumps mob dealings with all of his construction projects and the drug money laundering scandal in Panama. He’s been getting away with breaking laws for decades. Would be great if our country would hold someone as corrupt and powerful as Donald trump accountable just one time.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 22/04/19, 08:25 am

bizarre, though not surprising.

a guy sees a picture of his father - a coal miner who died of black lung disease - being used by the Russians to promote the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator.

When a redacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller's report on Russian interference in the 2016 election was released to the public and Congress this week, the effects of Russian influence efforts through social media became clearer.

On Page 31 of the Mueller report, Hipshire saw a photo of his father, Lee, another coal miner who died of complications from black lung disease, on a poster for a "Miners for the Racist, Bigoted Christian Sexual Predator" rally in Pennsylvania. The Russian troll farm called the Internet Research Agency had used the photo, without the family's permission, for a pro-racist, bigoted christian sexual predator poster.

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by **Floyd Robertson** 22/04/19, 11:04 am

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by **Floyd Robertson** 26/04/19, 03:52 pm

Good sign. I hope.

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by **InTenSity** 26/04/19, 05:09 pm

I'm with the three Americans who think trump is exonerated...

by **Robert J Sakimano** 01/05/19, 09:07 am

Barr to testify today before the America-lovin' patriots in a republican majority Senate.. surely they'll be upset about him lying.. won't they?

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by **DWags** 01/05/19, 09:55 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Barr to testify today before the America-lovin' patriots in a republican majority Senate.. surely they'll be upset about him lying.. won't they?

I mean this regime is just out and out lying to the public. They don't give a shit, they know if they say it, their base will repeat it, and believe it. I don't know if I'm impressed by this or pissed off. But either way it's remarkable.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 01/05/19, 10:09 am

DWags wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Barr to testify today before the America-lovin' patriots in a republican majority Senate.. surely they'll be upset about him lying.. won't they?

I mean this regime is just out and out lying to the public. They don't give a shit, they know if they say it, their base will repeat it, and believe it. I don't know if I'm impressed by this or pissed off. But either way it's remarkable.

as I've always said.. racism, bigotry, misogyny and fear are very powerful attributes. So as long as republicans keep appealing to those very basic things within their christian base.. and as long as the mainstream media keeps amplifying it on their behalf, they'll be allowed to get away with anything.

by **kingstonlake** 01/05/19, 10:40 am

Mueller needs to testify. Lindsey Graham basically Trumps human shield and Used Clinton's name 3x as often as Trumps. Loved his quote of an FBI agent saying a Trump presidency would destabilize the country and that Trump was a "Fucking idiot".

by **Robert J Sakimano** 01/05/19, 10:54 am

kingstonlake wrote:Mueller needs to testify. Lindsey Graham basically Trumps human shield and Used Clinton's name 3x as often as Trumps. Loved his quote of an FBI agent saying a Trump presidency would destabilize the country and that Trump was a "Fucking idiot".

Lindsey Graham is whining about Hillary?? Mueller investigation outcome predictions (Poll) - Page 13 502811600

by **Robert J Sakimano** 01/05/19, 10:55 am

oh and, for the record, the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator is a "fucking idiot".. in fact, that's probably the nicest thing someone could possibly call him.

by **kingstonlake** 01/05/19, 11:03 am

Barr openly acting as Trumps attorney.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 01/05/19, 11:07 am

kingstonlake wrote:Barr openly acting as Trumps attorney.

you'd almost think he was handpicked to obstruct justice.

by **kingstonlake** 01/05/19, 11:10 am

Barr stated that the Mueller investigation is under review for a couple agents texts, lol.

by **steveschneider** 01/05/19, 11:10 am

On Real Time Bill did he a rant about what a let down Mueller was. I agree with the premise for the most part. History came calling and all Mueller did was leave a bread crumb trail for congress and republican controlled senate to finish the job. That may have worked in a different time and era but this is a different country now.

by **kingstonlake** 01/05/19, 11:11 am

Every Republicans time speaking is spent on collusion.

Every Democrats time spent speaking on obstruction.

by **kingstonlake** 01/05/19, 11:16 am

Barr stating the Trump ordering McGahn to have Mueller fired wasn't obstruction because after Trump had an opportunity to go to the chalk board with an eraser.... he really meant he should be fired for conflict of interest which suggests a new special counsel would have been hired....Even though there was no conflict of interest and Trump instructed McGahn to lie about him telling McGahn to fire Mueller. lol!

by **kingstonlake** 01/05/19, 11:18 am

JFC I'm literally falling asleep listening to an 80 year old Leahy and Feinstein read notes prepared by there staff. Get someone in front of a microphone with some fire and confrontational questioning. Mueller investigation outcome predictions (Poll) - Page 13 1896033241

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by **kingstonlake** 01/05/19, 11:25 am

Leahy asked Barr if Trumps attorney telling Manafort and Cohen "they'd be taken care of" if they didn't cooperate with the investigation, was obstruction or not fully cooperating with the investigation. Barr says "No it is not". lol!

Now off to Sen. Lee (R) to ask questions about the grandmothers email account and Obama.....Seriously, that's what he's talking about...

by **kingstonlake** 01/05/19, 11:29 am

MSNBC breaking in and saying Barr is flat out lying under oath about Trump ordering Mueller fired by former US attorney and its unconscionable that Barr is acting as Trumps attorney.

by **kingstonlake** 01/05/19, 11:34 am

Durbin owning Barr right now.

by **Floyd Robertson** 01/05/19, 11:37 am

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