Fake "Milk" about to get the hammer

by Guest 2018-07-18, 23:58

Finally science wins. Nuts don't lactate.

Gottlieb: FDA to crack down on labeling nondairy products as ‘milk’

“An almond doesn’t lactate, I will confess,” Gottlieb said, referring to the fact that the agency’s current standards for milk reference products from lactating animals.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2018-07-19, 00:04

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2018-07-19, 08:20

More government is awesome when it suits my needs. Fake "Milk" about to get the hammer 502811600

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2018-07-19, 08:43

What a slippery slope. What's next? Will we have to change the name of the milky way because it doesn't come from cows? Maybe we can call it God's Lite Brite instead. What about peanut butter? It doesn't come from cows. Will we have to call it peanut paste? We have enough things ruining this country to have to worry about the Big Dairy cabal adding to our demise.

by AvgMSUJoe 2018-07-19, 11:01

When is Beer not Beer?

Chocolate Oatmeal Blueberry whatever the fuck isn't "beer"...

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2018-07-19, 11:30

AvgMSUJoe wrote:When is Beer not Beer?

Chocolate Oatmeal Blueberry whatever the fuck isn't "beer"...

Is it just human nature to want to deny any type of new things or change? Why do older folk get all bent out of shape about this type of stuff? Genuinely curious.

by **Nordic** 2018-07-19, 12:03

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:When is Beer not Beer?

Chocolate Oatmeal Blueberry whatever the fuck isn't "beer"...

Is it just human nature to want to deny any type of new things or change? Why do older folk get all bent out of shape about this type of stuff? Genuinely curious.

The answer to your questions will be known to you in about 15 years.

by Guest 2018-07-19, 12:13

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Is it just human nature to want to deny any type of new things or change? Why do older folk get all bent out of shape about this type of stuff? Genuinely curious.

You're looking at it from a completely different angle.

Try this one - your family has a farm. They've invested decades of work and millions of $$ in the farm. A company springs up and starts making a knockoff product using the name "milk" playing on all those years of goodwill to sell their product. Demand for your product decreases because of the knockoff product. Your farm starts losing $$ and you may lose your farm, your livelihood and your way of life.

That's a little different than the way you're looking at it as - Fake "Milk" about to get the hammer 1811933421

Fake "Milk" about to get the hammer 1811933421

If what they have is new and so great let them build their own reputation not squat on milk's.

by MSU addict 2018-07-19, 12:28

LooseGoose wrote:You're looking at it from a completely different angle.

Try this one - your family has a farm. They've invested decades of work and millions of $$ in the farm. A company springs up and starts making a knockoff product using the name "milk" playing on all those years of goodwill to sell their product. Demand for your product decreases because of the knockoff product. Your farm starts losing $$ and you may lose your farm, your livelihood and your way of life.

That's a little different than the way you're looking at it as -

If what they have is new and so great let them build their own reputation not squat on milk's.

My family has owned an almond farm for three genrations.

by Guest 2018-07-19, 12:30

MSU addict wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:You're looking at it from a completely different angle.

Try this one - your family has a farm. They've invested decades of work and millions of $$ in the farm. A company springs up and starts making a knockoff product using the name "milk" playing on all those years of goodwill to sell their product. Demand for your product decreases because of the knockoff product. Your farm starts losing $$ and you may lose your farm, your livelihood and your way of life.

That's a little different than the way you're looking at it as -

If what they have is new and so great let them build their own reputation not squat on milk's.

My family has owned an almond farm for three genrations.

And you won't be seeing any dairy farms selling milk as almonds.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2018-07-19, 12:33

LooseGoose wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Is it just human nature to want to deny any type of new things or change? Why do older folk get all bent out of shape about this type of stuff? Genuinely curious.

You're looking at it from a completely different angle.

Try this one - your family has a farm. They've invested decades of work and millions of $$ in the farm. A company springs up and starts making a knockoff product using the name "milk" playing on all those years of goodwill to sell their product. Demand for your product decreases because of the knockoff product. Your farm starts losing $$ and you may lose your farm, your livelihood and your way of life.

That's a little different than the way you're looking at it as -

If what they have is new and so great let them build their own reputation not squat on milk's.

That sounds like a free market and capitalism, goose. Do you have an issue with those?

(Also, i was directly referring to his beer example, fuck all kinds of Milk)

by Guest 2018-07-19, 12:42

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

You're looking at it from a completely different angle.

Try this one - your family has a farm. They've invested decades of work and millions of $$ in the farm. A company springs up and starts making a knockoff product using the name "milk" playing on all those years of goodwill to sell their product. Demand for your product decreases because of the knockoff product. Your farm starts losing $$ and you may lose your farm, your livelihood and your way of life.

That's a little different than the way you're looking at it as -

If what they have is new and so great let them build their own reputation not squat on milk's.

That sounds like a free market and capitalism, goose. Do you have an issue with those?

(Also, i was directly referring to his beer example, fuck all kinds of Milk)

lol, nice attempt at a swerve. Free markets and capitalism do not allow you to freely market fake products. You are aware that knock offs are illegal? Ask Coach leather, authors, song writers, etc about that.

As I said before - as a food product milk has a very specific definition - I have no problem with competition based on that.

by MSU addict 2018-07-19, 12:55

LooseGoose wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

That sounds like a free market and capitalism, goose. Do you have an issue with those?

(Also, i was directly referring to his beer example, fuck all kinds of Milk)

lol, nice attempt at a swerve. Free markets and capitalism do not allow you to freely market fake products. You are aware that knock offs are illegal? Ask Coach leather, authors, song writers, etc about that.

As I said before - as a food product milk has a very specific definition - I have no problem with competition based on that.

Now you are just making shit up. Cows milk is a commodity. It is not designer leather or a work of art.

A food product definition of milk? It does not exist.

by **InTenSity** 2018-07-19, 13:09

I had no idea that almond milk wasn't the same as whole milk. I was just randomly choosing them on the shelf.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2018-07-19, 13:19

InTenSity wrote:I had no idea that almond milk wasn't the same as whole milk. I was just randomly choosing them on the shelf.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2018-07-19, 13:20

LooseGoose wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

That sounds like a free market and capitalism, goose. Do you have an issue with those?

(Also, i was directly referring to his beer example, fuck all kinds of Milk)

lol, nice attempt at a swerve. Free markets and capitalism do not allow you to freely market fake products. You are aware that knock offs are illegal? Ask Coach leather, authors, song writers, etc about that.

As I said before - as a food product milk has a very specific definition - I have no problem with competition based on that.

You are talking about patents and intellectual property. Milk is none of these things. Try again.

by AvgMSUJoe 2018-07-19, 13:21

Chocolate Oatmeal Blueberry whatever the fuck

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:When is Beer not Beer?

Chocolate Oatmeal Blueberry whatever the fuck isn't "beer"...

Is it just human nature to want to deny any type of new things or change? Why do older folk get all bent out of shape about this type of stuff? Genuinely curious.

Not bent out of shape....

BUT Chocolate Oatmeal Blueberry whatever the fuck should be in the tampon aisle... next to the tampons.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2018-07-19, 13:24

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Chocolate Oatmeal Blueberry whatever the fuck
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

Is it just human nature to want to deny any type of new things or change? Why do older folk get all bent out of shape about this type of stuff? Genuinely curious.

Not bent out of shape....

BUT Chocolate Oatmeal Blueberry whatever the fuck should be in the tampon aisle... next to the tampons.

Ah, you’ve got the whole insecure manly man I’m better than women thing going. Good luck with that.

by **y2kMgrad** 2018-07-19, 13:27

Never tried almond milk but I accidentally bought Ben and Jerry’s non dairy ice cream which apparently is made with almond milk. It was terrible.

by **Rocinante** 2018-07-19, 13:30

OTPT regularly flips out about people flipping out. He’s going to be the crankiest old dude ever.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2018-07-19, 13:33

Rocinante wrote:OTPT regularly flips out about people flipping out. He’s going to be the crankiest old dude ever.

Link to me flipping out? Is asking questions “flipping out”?

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2018-07-19, 13:36

Milk discussions are the best. Fake "Milk" about to get the hammer 502811600

by Guest 2018-07-19, 13:37

MSU addict wrote:A food product definition of milk? It does not exist.

Sorry man - I once owned a dairy farm and a dairy processing plant. Have dealt with the MDA, FDA and numerous other governmental agencies on milk and milk products.

Feel free to educate yourself any time.

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Fake "Milk" about to get the hammer Fdamil10

Sec. 131.110 Milk.

by Guest 2018-07-19, 13:40

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

lol, nice attempt at a swerve. Free markets and capitalism do not allow you to freely market fake products. You are aware that knock offs are illegal? Ask Coach leather, authors, song writers, etc about that.

As I said before - as a food product milk has a very specific definition - I have no problem with competition based on that.

You are talking about patents and intellectual property. Milk is none of these things. Try again.

The Mario Mendoza of intellectuals too. The FDA defines many food products. You cannot sell a fake without risking a felony charge. But you go right on.

by **tGreenWay** 2018-07-19, 13:42

All this time I thought I was drinking real milk from almonds. What’s real anymore? We should get together and sue. Fake "Milk" about to get the hammer 502811600

Reality: Milk is the inferior product. Almond milk producers can change their product name to almondwaybetterthanmilk and farmers are pussies.

by Guest 2018-07-19, 13:45

tGreenWay wrote:All this time I thought I was drinking real milk from almonds. What’s real anymore? We should get together and sue.

Reality: Milk is the inferior product. Almond milk producers can change their product name to almondwaybetterthanmilk and farmers are pussies.

lol, that would be a bold marketing campaign.

by **Heat Miser** 2018-07-19, 14:08

I thought Orange Bumblefuck McTraitor was getting rid of regulations? Or was that only the regs that benefit people vs big business?

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2018-07-19, 14:10

LooseGoose wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

You are talking about patents and intellectual property. Milk is none of these things. Try again.

The Mario Mendoza of intellectuals too. The FDA defines many food products. You cannot sell a fake without risking a felony charge. But you go right on.

Define fake food.

by **Heat Miser** 2018-07-19, 14:17

The FDA Thinks Consumers Are Dumb

...The Dairy Cartel

The dairy industry is no stranger to calling in favors from the federal government. In fact, when margarine hit the scene in the late 1800’s, dairy farmers called for a federal “margarine” tax to dissuade consumers from buying the butter alternative.

In 1902, this policy was taken even further when an additional tax was applied to any margarine brand that used artificial dye to make its appearance seem more like “authentic” butter. This tax was really meant as a punishment for the margarine companies, who were supposedly “tricking” consumers into buying their “wannabe” butter. The real threat, of course, was that margarine was less expensive than butter, which concerned the dairy industry and delighted shoppers.

The brand Yoplait was also once a target of the dairy industry and faced legal action over its Greek yogurt products...

by **tGreenWay** 2018-07-19, 14:20

LooseGoose wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:All this time I thought I was drinking real milk from almonds. What’s real anymore? We should get together and sue.

Reality: Milk is the inferior product. Almond milk producers can change their product name to almondwaybetterthanmilk and farmers are pussies.

lol, that would be a bold marketing campaign.

They should call it almond slurry. That’s the closest description I can think of, and it would still taste better than milk. You should at least admit this isn’t about science; it’s about the milk industry getting dinged in the wallet. Big Milk is skeert of those little ol almond slurry makers.
I do want to congratulate you on accepting science, though. Maybe now you’ll reconsider climate change, which has a whole lot more science behind it than any research into how to define milk.

by **Cameron** 2018-07-19, 14:43

LooseGoose wrote:
MSU addict wrote:A food product definition of milk? It does not exist.

Sorry man - I once owned a dairy farm and a dairy processing plant. Have dealt with the MDA, FDA and numerous other governmental agencies on milk and milk products.

Feel free to educate yourself any time.

Sec. 131.110 Milk.

So it's only milk if it comes out of cows? What about goats' milk? Is that not really milk? Is it goat juice?

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2018-07-19, 14:46

For real though can we talk about how there is no fish in Swedish fish? These are the problems facing our fish farmers.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2018-07-19, 14:48

Cameron wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Sorry man - I once owned a dairy farm and a dairy processing plant. Have dealt with the MDA, FDA and numerous other governmental agencies on milk and milk products.

Feel free to educate yourself any time.

Sec. 131.110 Milk.

So it's only milk if it comes out of cows? What about goats' milk? Is that not really milk? Is it goat juice?

Fake "Milk" about to get the hammer 1966794946

by Guest 2018-07-19, 14:54

Cameron wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

Sorry man - I once owned a dairy farm and a dairy processing plant. Have dealt with the MDA, FDA and numerous other governmental agencies on milk and milk products.

Feel free to educate yourself any time.

Sec. 131.110 Milk.

So it's only milk if it comes out of cows? What about goats' milk? Is that not really milk? Is it goat juice?

It's the FDA after all.....they can be flexible when they want to be.

Raw milk is milk from cows, sheep, or goats that has not been pasteurized to kill harmful bacteria. This raw, unpasteurized milk can carry dangerous bacteria such as Salmonella, E. coli, and Listeria, which are responsible for causing numerous foodborne illnesses.

Raw Milk & Pasteurized Milk

Let me assure you they're a barrel of laughs to deal with.

by Guest 2018-07-19, 14:55

tGreenWay wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

lol, that would be a bold marketing campaign.

They should call it almond slurry. That’s the closest description I can think of, and it would still taste better than milk. You should at least admit this isn’t about science; it’s about the milk industry getting dinged in the wallet. Big Milk is skeert of those little ol almond slurry makers.
I do want to congratulate you on accepting science, though. Maybe now you’ll reconsider climate change, which has a whole lot more science behind it than any research into how to define milk.

Another topic.....but drag it over. I prefer my science to be accurate at least at times. Climate science has been wildly inaccurate.

by Guest 2018-07-19, 14:59

Heat Miser wrote:The FDA Thinks Consumers Are Dumb

...The Dairy Cartel

The dairy industry is no stranger to calling in favors from the federal government. In fact, when margarine hit the scene in the late 1800’s, dairy farmers called for a federal “margarine” tax to dissuade consumers from buying the butter alternative.

In 1902, this policy was taken even further when an additional tax was applied to any margarine brand that used artificial dye to make its appearance seem more like “authentic” butter. This tax was really meant as a punishment for the margarine companies, who were supposedly “tricking” consumers into buying their “wannabe” butter. The real threat, of course, was that margarine was less expensive than butter, which concerned the dairy industry and delighted shoppers.

The brand Yoplait was also once a target of the dairy industry and faced legal action over its Greek yogurt products...

You carry on with defending margarine. Of course they were trying to imitate butter and trick consumers. They certainly didn't color it yellow and form it into sticks to educate consumers that their product was better. If you support that more power to you. Glad you like it but I think that shit sucks no matter that it's cheaper.

by Guest 2018-07-19, 15:00

Heat Miser wrote:I thought Orange Bumblefuck McTraitor was getting rid of regulations? Or was that only the regs that benefit people vs big business?

TDS.

Amazing that everfuckingthing that's wrong in the world is somehow Trump's fault. You people amaze me with your obsession.

by SawGreen 2018-07-19, 15:14

by **Rocinante** 2018-07-19, 15:25

"kiss my dick" Fake "Milk" about to get the hammer 502811600

by **Heat Miser** 2018-07-19, 15:25

LooseGoose wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:I thought Orange Bumblefuck McTraitor was getting rid of regulations? Or was that only the regs that benefit people vs big business?

TDS.

Amazing that everfuckingthing that's wrong in the world is somehow Trump's fault. You people amaze me with your obsession.

Welp...for 8 years everything was Obama's fault, so it's only fair that the new guy assume all the responsibility.

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