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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Tue 7 Aug 2018 - 15:53

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/07/politics/trump-california-wildfire/index.html

California wildfires are being magnified & made so much worse by the bad environmental laws which aren’t allowing massive amounts of readily available water to be properly utilized. It is being diverted into the Pacific Ocean. Must also tree clear to stop fire from spreading! Governor Jerry Brown must allow the Free Flow of the vast amounts of water coming from the North and foolishly being diverted into the Pacific Ocean. Can be used for fires, farming and everything else. Think of California with plenty of Water - Nice! Fast Federal govt. approvals.

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Local officials have made clear they have not had any difficulty accessing enough water to fight the fires.
As for water "being diverted into the Pacific Ocean," while there is a debate raging in California about how much water should be diverted to coastal communities versus farmers in the central part of the state, water is not being intentionally flushed into the ocean.
"I was stunned when I read this this morning," Henri Grissino-Mayer, a climatologist and biogeographer at the University of Tennessee, told CNN in an email. "California does NOT divert water to the ocean. Ridiculous."

Even during a disaster this piece of shit is trying to score political points. Fuck him.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Tue 7 Aug 2018 - 16:13

Yeah well....All Politicians lie! And I would rather have one who I KNOW is lying all of the time rather than having to guess if they're lying or telling the truth!
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 7 Aug 2018 - 16:23

remember, he's the "America First" candidate.

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Post by Guest Tue 7 Aug 2018 - 19:42

Yeah Trump did it...which ignores that fires have been suppressed for 100 years which is not sustainable.

BARTH & GRIMES: California Burns: The 'New Normal' Thanks To Obama-Era Environmental Regulations

This past week, The New York Times reported on California’s wildfires stating that “Since 2012, according to state emergency management officials, there has not been a month without a wildfire burning — a stark contrast to previous decades, when fire officials saw the fall and winter as a time to plan and regroup,”

What’s the significance of 2012?

It is interesting that The New York Times mentioned the 2012 date, but only attributed the wildfire increases to “the recent historic drought” and “rising temperatures” caused by climate change. Nothing could be further from the truth.

As California burns, many Californians have been asking why the dramatic increase in wildfires in the last five years? Except for Governor Jerry Brown. Governor Brown claims that devastating fires are the "new normal." Supporting Obama-era regulations have resulted in the new normal: an endless and devastating fire season.

Obama-Era Eco-Terrorism through Environmental Regulations

Under Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, “the Obama administration finalized a rule governing the management of 193 million acres of national forests and grasslands, establishing a new blueprint to guide everything from logging to recreation and renewable energy development,” The Washington Post reported in 2012. “The rule will serve as the guiding document for individual forest plans, which spell out exactly how these lands can be used.”

These Obama-era regulations introduced excessive layers of bureaucracy that blocked proper forest management and increased environmentalist litigation and costs — a result of far too many radical environmentalists, bureaucrats, Leftist politicians and judicial activists who would rather let forests burn than let anyone thin out overgrown trees or let professional loggers harvest usable timber left from beetle infestation, or selectively cut timber.
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Post by NigelUno Tue 7 Aug 2018 - 19:51

LooseGoose wrote:Yeah Trump did it...which ignores that fires have been suppressed for 100 years which is not sustainable.

BARTH & GRIMES: California Burns: The 'New Normal' Thanks To Obama-Era Environmental Regulations

This past week, The New York Times reported on California’s wildfires stating that “Since 2012, according to state emergency management officials, there has not been a month without a wildfire burning — a stark contrast to previous decades, when fire officials saw the fall and winter as a time to plan and regroup,”

What’s the significance of 2012?

It is interesting that The New York Times mentioned the 2012 date, but only attributed the wildfire increases to “the recent historic drought” and “rising temperatures” caused by climate change. Nothing could be further from the truth.

As California burns, many Californians have been asking why the dramatic increase in wildfires in the last five years? Except for Governor Jerry Brown. Governor Brown claims that devastating fires are the "new normal." Supporting Obama-era regulations have resulted in the new normal: an endless and devastating fire season.

Obama-Era Eco-Terrorism through Environmental Regulations

Under Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, “the Obama administration finalized a rule governing the management of 193 million acres of national forests and grasslands, establishing a new blueprint to guide everything from logging to recreation and renewable energy development,” The Washington Post reported in 2012. “The rule will serve as the guiding document for individual forest plans, which spell out exactly how these lands can be used.”

These Obama-era regulations introduced excessive layers of bureaucracy that blocked proper forest management and increased environmentalist litigation and costs — a result of far too many radical environmentalists, bureaucrats, Leftist politicians and judicial activists who would rather let forests burn than let anyone thin out overgrown trees or let professional loggers harvest usable timber left from beetle infestation, or selectively cut timber.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 7 Aug 2018 - 20:09

LooseGoose wrote:Yeah Trump did it...which ignores that fires have been suppressed for 100 years which is not sustainable.

BARTH & GRIMES: California Burns: The 'New Normal' Thanks To Obama-Era Environmental Regulations

This past week, The New York Times reported on California’s wildfires stating that “Since 2012, according to state emergency management officials, there has not been a month without a wildfire burning — a stark contrast to previous decades, when fire officials saw the fall and winter as a time to plan and regroup,”

What’s the significance of 2012?

It is interesting that The New York Times mentioned the 2012 date, but only attributed the wildfire increases to “the recent historic drought” and “rising temperatures” caused by climate change. Nothing could be further from the truth.

As California burns, many Californians have been asking why the dramatic increase in wildfires in the last five years? Except for Governor Jerry Brown. Governor Brown claims that devastating fires are the "new normal." Supporting Obama-era regulations have resulted in the new normal: an endless and devastating fire season.

Obama-Era Eco-Terrorism through Environmental Regulations

Under Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, “the Obama administration finalized a rule governing the management of 193 million acres of national forests and grasslands, establishing a new blueprint to guide everything from logging to recreation and renewable energy development,” The Washington Post reported in 2012. “The rule will serve as the guiding document for individual forest plans, which spell out exactly how these lands can be used.”

These Obama-era regulations introduced excessive layers of bureaucracy that blocked proper forest management and increased environmentalist litigation and costs — a result of far too many radical environmentalists, bureaucrats, Leftist politicians and judicial activists who would rather let forests burn than let anyone thin out overgrown trees or let professional loggers harvest usable timber left from beetle infestation, or selectively cut timber.
thanks for the mainstream media link.
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Tue 7 Aug 2018 - 20:25

LooseGoose wrote:Yeah Trump did it...which ignores that fires have been suppressed for 100 years which is not sustainable.

BARTH & GRIMES: California Burns: The 'New Normal' Thanks To Obama-Era Environmental Regulations

This past week, The New York Times reported on California’s wildfires stating that “Since 2012, according to state emergency management officials, there has not been a month without a wildfire burning — a stark contrast to previous decades, when fire officials saw the fall and winter as a time to plan and regroup,”

What’s the significance of 2012?

It is interesting that The New York Times mentioned the 2012 date, but only attributed the wildfire increases to “the recent historic drought” and “rising temperatures” caused by climate change. Nothing could be further from the truth.

As California burns, many Californians have been asking why the dramatic increase in wildfires in the last five years? Except for Governor Jerry Brown. Governor Brown claims that devastating fires are the "new normal." Supporting Obama-era regulations have resulted in the new normal: an endless and devastating fire season.

Obama-Era Eco-Terrorism through Environmental Regulations

Under Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, “the Obama administration finalized a rule governing the management of 193 million acres of national forests and grasslands, establishing a new blueprint to guide everything from logging to recreation and renewable energy development,” The Washington Post reported in 2012. “The rule will serve as the guiding document for individual forest plans, which spell out exactly how these lands can be used.”

These Obama-era regulations introduced excessive layers of bureaucracy that blocked proper forest management and increased environmentalist litigation and costs — a result of far too many radical environmentalists, bureaucrats, Leftist politicians and judicial activists who would rather let forests burn than let anyone thin out overgrown trees or let professional loggers harvest usable timber left from beetle infestation, or selectively cut timber.

Obama era eco terrorism? You're a fucking nutball Goose.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Tue 7 Aug 2018 - 21:02

I thought y'all weren't going to allow trolling on this board?

(Actually please do continue... It's pretty funny)
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Tue 7 Aug 2018 - 21:31

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I thought y'all weren't going to allow trolling on this board?

(Actually please do continue... It's pretty funny)

Nah, I gave up on that a while back. I don't know how to unpin threads. I'm just keeping an eye out for offensive bullshit these days.
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Post by tGreenWay Wed 8 Aug 2018 - 0:43

Trump is such a fucking idiot, as are his supporters. California Wildfires and Trump 1966794946
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Post by NigelUno Wed 8 Aug 2018 - 8:38

OBAMA!!!
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Post by Watch Out Pylon! Wed 8 Aug 2018 - 8:54

tGreenWay wrote:Trump is such a fucking idiot, as are his supporters. California Wildfires and Trump 1966794946

They are Greenway. They really are.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed 8 Aug 2018 - 9:05

it's the fault of the colored boy!!!
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Post by GRR Spartan Wed 8 Aug 2018 - 10:39

Now this is a conundrum

On one hand we posters is saying the earth has been around for 1000's of years and change like wildfires and glaciers melting is inevitable.

Yet the same folks show up here yesterday evening and says the wildfires are a result of a snapshot in time. The 8 years of the Obama administration.

Which is it?
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