Nine confirmed dead following mass shooting overnight in Dayton

by **tGreenWay** 2019-08-04, 04:33

Another 16 injured. Shooter is also dead. It’s been a banner day for the NRA and 2A zealots.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49224816

by **DWags** 2019-08-04, 06:26

I’m willing to bet another of us on this board due from a gun shot before one of us die from natural causes. We’ve already lost one. I pray none of you are the next. I fear one of us will.

Domestic terrorists. Easy access to weapons of choice.

An administration who tells them why they should hate.

That’s a hell of a cocktail

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 06:30

Only 9?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2019-08-04, 06:53

Wow.. the GOP and NRA are having a good start to August.

Bet this has them excited for back to school shootings.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2019-08-04, 08:47

Seriously. Fuck you. Something substantial needs to be done, but it won't in our lifetime.

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/04/747989695/9-killed-at-least-16-injured-in-shooting-in-dayton-ohio

by **steveschneider** 2019-08-04, 08:55

Infuriating. These people are terrorists.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 10:40

But... but....but....guns have been around forever. So has hate, racism, extremism, and bigotry.

So........ MERICA!!

by **Turtleneck** 2019-08-04, 10:51

Well, we're back to video games.

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by **Robert J Sakimano** 2019-08-04, 11:07

Nine confirmed dead following mass shooting overnight in Dayton 502811600

Holy fuck America is a stupid country.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2019-08-04, 11:21

Current levels of thoughts and prayers aren't working. We need to double our efforts.

Also, as proven around the world, banning video games is the answer............

by **Turtleneck** 2019-08-04, 11:21

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Holy fuck America is a stupid country.

Freedom loving politicians support curtailing freedom of speech. Weird.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 11:28

Turtleneck wrote:Well, we're back to video games.

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This is not incorrect. It's not the problem exclusively but it is a factor.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2019-08-04, 11:38

kingstonlake wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:Well, we're back to video games.

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This is not incorrect. It's not the problem exclusively but it is a factor.

No. Fuck that. Video games have fuck all to do with any of these mass murders. That's propoganda pushed by the fucking NRA.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/02/23/us/politics/trump-video-games-shootings.amp.html

by **Rocinante** 2019-08-04, 12:05

Yeah Kingston. Why don’t you go ahead and blame Black Sabbath.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 12:13

You guys really like reading more into a post than was actually said. You also like to cherry pick the commonalities in Mass shootings that fit your argument. It's exactly why nothing gets done or no progress is made.

by **Cameron** 2019-08-04, 12:16

I'm to the point where no potential solution is off the table. We need to attack this from all angles. I've never seen credible evidence that there's a link between video games and mass shootings, but I'm no longer willing to take the possibility off the table. I love video games, but let's take a long, hard look at everything. Gun control, mental health, video games, media coverage of the perpetrators, there are probably changes we can make in all areas, and we need to do everything and anything that we can.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 13:25

If you think a child raised in an abusive household who sees abuse happen as an everyday occurrence has a higher likely hood of becoming an abuser but don't think that a kid who sees violence in video games everyday and becomes desensitized to it or can start to crave the high, then your kidding yourself or being intentionally obtuse. I agree Cameron, at this point nothing should be off the table.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2019-08-04, 13:31

kingstonlake wrote:You guys really like reading more into a post than was actually said. You also like to cherry pick the commonalities in Mass shootings that fit your argument. It's exactly why nothing gets done or no progress is made.

And you're reading a fuck ton more into this than what I said. Tell you what, I'm more than willing to ban all violent video games if we can ban all semi-automatic guns as well.

by **StylesGShmooth** 2019-08-04, 15:00

Every country in the world has violent video games and mental health issues. No other country has this problem. I feel like we should probably look into the fact that we have way more guns than any other country.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 15:17

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:You guys really like reading more into a post than was actually said. You also like to cherry pick the commonalities in Mass shootings that fit your argument. It's exactly why nothing gets done or no progress is made.

And you're reading a fuck ton more into this than what I said. Tell you what, I'm more than willing to ban all violent video games if we can ban all semi-automatic guns as well.

I'm not saying we should ban all violent video games, Pylon.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 15:33

I'm also tired of politicians and leaders falling all over each other for camera time. I don't need to hear from the mayor, the governor, the fbi, the police chief, the deputy police chief, the senator, the congressman, the city councilman. Fuck off. You're all to blame. You're part of the problem. I don't need your sound bites or cute anecdotes. I'm tired of them saying....

This isn't El Paso
this isn't Gilroy
this isn't dayton
this isn't ascension parish
this isn't sebring
this isn't aurora
this isn't Charlotte
this isn't Virginia Beach
this isn't thousand oaks
this isn't Pittsburg
this isn't Santa Fe
this isn't Scottsdale
this isn't Parkland

Bullshit. It is.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2019-08-04, 15:46

kingstonlake wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

And you're reading a fuck ton more into this than what I said. Tell you what, I'm more than willing to ban all violent video games if we can ban all semi-automatic guns as well.

I'm not saying we should ban all violent video games, Pylon.

What are you talking about then? If violent video games are a problem and you don't want to ban them what do you want? A background check before you can buy violent video games?

Jesus Christ, this conversation is getting fucking stupid. Why do no other 1st world countries in the world have the same amount of mass shootings as America? Can we start there?

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 15:57

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

I'm not saying we should ban all violent video games, Pylon.

What are you talking about then? If violent video games are a problem and you don't want to ban them what do you want? A background check before you can buy violent video games?

Jesus Christ, this conversation is getting fucking stupid. Why do no other 1st world countries in the world have the same amount of mass shootings as America? Can we start there?

Sorry you feel that way Pylon.

And no you can't start at "Why do no other 1st world countries in the world have the same amount of mass shootings as America"

Do you know why?

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 16:40

Melania rocking the 6"

for the quick statement after the weekend of partying at Trump's golf course. "We've done more than any other administration on this issue". Yes you have orange fuckwad. You've encouraged it. "Hate has no place in our country" not a word about white nationalism. Also said he spoke to the governor's of both states (battle ground states) and they're working on this problem. Don't recall such in depth hands on work in a state like California that he will lose. I could be wrong but that's my memory.

by **Heat Miser** 2019-08-04, 16:40

Yeah, video games are the problem. [eyeroll]

Classic deflection ploy from the right since "thoughts and prayers" + "too soon" have worn out. Anything but gun control. Ozzy's still alive. Let's drag his ass back into court. It's probably his fault.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 16:42

Heat Miser wrote:Yeah, video games are the problem. [eyeroll]

Classic deflection ploy from the right since "thoughts and prayers" + "too soon" have worn out. Anything but gun control. Ozzy's still alive. Let's drag his ass back into court. It's probably his fault.

Nobody here said they are THE problem. Read it again. And we really appreciate the drive by post, part timer.

by **Heat Miser** 2019-08-04, 16:58

kingstonlake wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:Yeah, video games are the problem. [eyeroll]

Classic deflection ploy from the right since "thoughts and prayers" + "too soon" have worn out. Anything but gun control. Ozzy's still alive. Let's drag his ass back into court. It's probably his fault.

Nobody here said they are THE problem. Read it again. And we really appreciate the drive by post, part timer.

More deflection. Bravo.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 17:10

Heat Miser wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Nobody here said they are THE problem. Read it again. And we really appreciate the drive by post, part timer.

More deflection. Bravo.

Ok.

by **NigelUno** 2019-08-04, 17:53

Heat Miser wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Nobody here said they are THE problem. Read it again. And we really appreciate the drive by post, part timer.

More deflection. Bravo.

Not sure who this "we" is.

I appreciate your posts.

by **tGreenWay** 2019-08-04, 18:14

The asshole in Dayton murdered his sister. She was one of the nine dead.
https://news.yahoo.com/shooting-dayton-ohio-under-investigation-081735995.html?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom

by **tGreenWay** 2019-08-04, 18:18

And if anyone is keeping track, there have been more mass shootings this year (251) than there have been days in the year (216).

by **tGreenWay** 2019-08-04, 18:20

FYI:
If you feel like sharing an opinion on all the murdered in El Paso and Dayton, #MassacreMitch is trending on Twitter.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2019-08-04, 18:31

tGreenWay wrote:And if anyone is keeping track, there have been more mass shootings this year (251) than there have been days in the year (216).

who would've ever thought that Space Invaders would lead to this.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2019-08-04, 18:36

kingstonlake wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

What are you talking about then? If violent video games are a problem and you don't want to ban them what do you want? A background check before you can buy violent video games?

Jesus Christ, this conversation is getting fucking stupid. Why do no other 1st world countries in the world have the same amount of mass shootings as America? Can we start there?

Sorry you feel that way Pylon.

And no you can't start at "Why do no other 1st world countries in the world have the same amount of mass shootings as America"

Do you know why?

Because you know the obvious answer and don't want to go down that road?

Also, I'm still trying to figure out what you want done with video games. Are we gonna get that answer or nah?

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 18:45

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Sorry you feel that way Pylon.

And no you can't start at "Why do no other 1st world countries in the world have the same amount of mass shootings as America"

Do you know why?

Because you know the obvious answer and don't want to go down that road?

Also, I'm still trying to figure out what you want done with video games. Are we gonna get that answer or nah?

The obvious answer is they don't have the same guns laws we have. You can't pretend over 300 million guns aren't out there. So whining like a baby about other countries gun laws is idiotic and a none starter. We both know those guns aren't going anywhere. Unless you want to engage in fantasy and suggest we confiscate them and start from scratch. Good luck with that. You play they cards in your hand. And it's a bad hand. So you keep on whining about other countries gun laws and we'll see where that gets us. See you in the next mass shooting thread.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-08-04, 18:47

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:And if anyone is keeping track, there have been more mass shootings this year (251) than there have been days in the year (216).
who would've ever thought that Space Invaders would lead to this.

What's your suggestion besides being a do nothing behind a keyboard and mocking everything?

by **Heat Miser** 2019-08-04, 18:52

kingstonlake wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:And if anyone is keeping track, there have been more mass shootings this year (251) than there have been days in the year (216).
who would've ever thought that Space Invaders would lead to this.

What's your suggestion besides being a do nothing behind a keyboard and mocking everything?

You could start by taxing guns and bullets like cigarettes and booze.

by **Rocinante** 2019-08-04, 19:21

StylesGShmooth wrote:Every country in the world has violent video games and mental health issues. No other country has this problem. I feel like we should probably look into the fact that we have way more guns than any other country.

Bingo.

by **InTenSity** 2019-08-04, 19:33

Heat Miser wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

What's your suggestion besides being a do nothing behind a keyboard and mocking everything?

You could start by taxing guns and bullets like cigarettes and booze.

I read a post today that getting a gun should be as difficult as getting an abortion. I thought that was a good idea, especially these states that only have one or two clinics. They can only sell guns from one store in the state.

by **Heat Miser** 2019-08-04, 19:40

InTenSity wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

What's your suggestion besides being a do nothing behind a keyboard and mocking everything?

You could start by taxing guns and bullets like cigarettes and booze.
I read a post today that getting a gun should be as difficult as getting an abortion. I thought that was a good idea, especially these states that only have one or two clinics. They can only sell guns from one store in the state.

Sounds good to me.

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