Re: Student Loans

by TravelinMan 2024-04-24, 11:33

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Yeah, that wasn't targeted at me, you just happened to say that in response to a post I made. It's clearly my fault for taking it that way.

You lose more credibility each day, Trap.

It was targeted both at people who call themselves Libertarians in general, and at you in particular, but, logically, it has a "back door" that you can walk out of, if it doesn't apply.

I would say it is somewhat telling about who you really are that you chose not to use that back door in your reply, but you could just feel that your belief system, which you picked up as a kid, has some flaws and are reacting defensively.

Sorry for lashing out. Sometimes I delude myself into thinking you and I can have fun debates. Then I hate myself when you prove me wrong again and again. I’ll work on that.

by **Trapper Gus** 2024-04-24, 11:37

TravelinMan wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:What is the cheese with your Wednesday whine Travelin?

Nothing and no one is keeping you here.

Uh oh. I must be on target today. Grramps wants to run me off.

Sometimes us old people have little patience for wrongheaded ideas. (I'm an exception, I am happy to point out the flaws in them)

by **Trapper Gus** 2024-04-24, 11:38

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

It was targeted both at people who call themselves Libertarians in general, and at you in particular, but, logically, it has a "back door" that you can walk out of, if it doesn't apply.

I would say it is somewhat telling about who you really are that you chose not to use that back door in your reply, but you could just feel that your belief system, which you picked up as a kid, has some flaws and are reacting defensively.

Sorry for lashing out. Sometimes I delude myself into thinking you and I can have fun debates. Then I hate myself when you prove me wrong again and again. I’ll work on that.

We probably can if we both learn to stifle our instinctive defensive replies and also learn to read closely what each other posts.

Also, I need to reduce my "snark" level in my replies to you.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2024-04-24, 11:47

You guys should just text each other tbh and spare everyone else

by **Cameron** 2024-04-24, 15:17

TravelinMan wrote:
Cameron wrote:I don't feel that I have been wronged by this guy getting his loan forgiven. Doesn't seem to have cost me anything, and has resulted in a net increase in the amount of happiness in the world. Uniformly positive development, in my estimation.

It didn't cost you anything? Oh you sweet summer child.

I just double checked, my bank balance is still the same as it was yesterday. How much did it cost you?

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2024-04-24, 15:25

I think he thinks that money was spent to pay off a loan. You have to understand that if you get off of the boiler plate talking points then libertarianism doesn’t actually make any sense at all so the answer to that problem is to never ever ever get off of the standard boiler plate talking points.

by TravelinMan 2024-04-24, 15:43

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I think he thinks that money was spent to pay off a loan. You have to understand that if you get off of the boiler plate talking points then libertarianism doesn’t actually make any sense at all so the answer to that problem is to never ever ever get off of the standard boiler plate talking points.

Another swing and a miss. You folks aren't very good with economics, are you?

by **Trapper Gus** 2024-04-24, 16:08

Future payments are not money today, they are credits on a balance sheet, when they are erased they still are not money today, nor do they change the amount of money the US borrows, today.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2024-04-24, 17:57

TravelinMan wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:I think he thinks that money was spent to pay off a loan. You have to understand that if you get off of the boiler plate talking points then libertarianism doesn’t actually make any sense at all so the answer to that problem is to never ever ever get off of the standard boiler plate talking points.

Another swing and a miss. You folks aren't very good with economics, are you?

lol sure

by **Trapper Gus** 2024-04-30, 16:12

I believe this was the loan servicing company that the Republican AG's used to force their case against the original Biden plan for $10k of loan relief for all debters with lower income which TSCOTUS eventually ruled unallowable.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/30/politics/pslf-student-loan-pause-mohela/index.html

by **GRR Spartan** 2024-04-30, 16:51

TravelinMan is like cockroach.
Never leaves

by TravelinMan 2024-04-30, 21:05

GRR Spartan wrote:TravelinMan is like cockroach.
Never leaves

Thanks, Grramps.

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