Joe Biden is crushing it.

GDP 2nd Qtr 2.4%

Bidenomics is crushing it!

While there remains a great deal of public skepticism about Bidenomics, Sonnenfeld concluded by reiterating, “The facts are uniformly positive.”

“The Biden administration has been more successfully, economically interventionist since the New Deal.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/yale-business-guru-gushes-to-msnbc-bidenomics-most-successful-intervention-since-fdrs-new-deal/

In one phase President Biden sets forth the meaning of The United States in today's world.

The United States is the essential nation on the globe.

For all that his talk was a heartfelt recap of his presidency, he emphasized that the key to those successes has been democratic institutions. Referring to President Bill Clinton’s secretary of state Madeleine Albright’s reference to the United States as “the essential nation,” he attributed the leadership of the United States in world affairs not to its military might or economic power, but rather to its ability to create and defend alliances and, crucially, institutions that aspire to a rules-based world that works for, rather than against, ordinary people.

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/july-29-2023-saturday

Joe has been doing so many important Progressive things during his first term that it is hard to point to any one item that is changing the United States back toward a country working for all the people rather than just for those at the very top, however, his, rather under the radar, efforts at changing anti-trust enforcement have the potential to swing the power pendulum back closer to equality.

BTW, as with many policies Joe didn't "start the fire"...

Trump’s attempt to block AT&T-Time Warner signaled a shift, and his 2020 monopolization suit against Google showed the turn was real.

As I have said before, not everything Trump did was bad, just most of it, and his basic concept of the Presidency & government sucks.

https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/antitrust-guidelines-and-overthrowing

Tommy Football screwing over alabama overplaying his hand holding military promotions hostage, of all things..  Biden overturns trump decision to move US space command to Alabama from Colorado. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes


Joe Biden Crushing it

https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1686099510982766592

On Friday, Yale School of Management professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and Steven Tian, a former quantitative investment analyst, wrote an article in Fortune titled: “Bidenomics’ Critics Are Being Proven Wrong. Happy Days Are Here Again.”

Sonnenfeld and Tian wrote that the economic theories of the past were proved wrong long ago and “[t]he U.S. economy is now pulling off what all these experts said was impossible: strong growth and record employment amidst plummeting inflation. And just as importantly, thanks to Bidenomics, the fruits of economic prosperity are inclusive and broad-based, amidst a renaissance in American manufacturing, investment, and productivity.” They conclude: “Bidenomics is proving to be the most impactful and transformative public investment program since FDR’s New Deal, with even Morgan Stanley acknowledging that economists broadly underestimated the positive effect of Bidenomics.”

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/july-31-2023

Joe is leading the anti-Reagan revolution in economic policies for the US government. Reaganomics of pilling all the money at the top of the food chain and expecting it to "trickle down" hasn't worked and now the Bidenomics model of combining incentives (other than tax cuts, which don't work in today's economic environment) has turned economic theories on their heads.

This is as big a revolution in what the government does and how it does it as Reaganomics was 43 years ago.

Politico: Biden resorts to a classic D.C. punt on the debt ceiling. Progressives aren’t pleased.

Cameron wrote:Politico: Biden resorts to a classic D.C. punt on the debt ceiling. Progressives aren’t pleased.

I can see why Progressives think this is weak sauce. However, I also will say that Joe is one of the best political operators we have had as President since LBJ.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Cameron wrote:Politico: Biden resorts to a classic D.C. punt on the debt ceiling. Progressives aren’t pleased.

I can see why Progressives think this is weak sauce. However, I also will say that Joe is one of the best political operators we have had as President since LBJ.

he's one of the greatest of all Americans and the fact that he drives libertarians/republicans insane supports my assessment.

is as big a revolution in what the government does and how it does it as Reaganomics was 43 years ago.

joe is quiet, says very little, and some how he gets each of his foes, republican or democrat, to meet him in the middle, but more on his side of thinking.

I think that's a mark of saying and doing the right things as a politician.

A few weeks ago, the Republicans were all over Joe ordering troops to the US / Mexico border in support of the Border Patrol as the laws changed,

Now we have this:

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Pentagon is pulling 1,100 active duty troops from the U.S.-Mexico border it deployed earlier this year as the government prepared for the end of asylum restrictions linked to the pandemic.

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin approved the deployment of a total of 1,500 active duty troops for a temporary 90-day military presence surge at the border in May. At the time, illegal border crossings were swiftly escalating with concerns they’d go even higher after the restrictions ended but instead the numbers have fallen.

The 1,100 troops will conclude their 90-day mission by Aug. 8; the remaining 400 will be extended through August 31, a defense official said on the condition of anonymity to discuss details ahead of an announcement.

https://apnews.com/article/us-military-remove-troops-mexico-border-immigration-b82a32f5c82c421f1c645a64715dabb1

Although the new policies are under serious legal challenges from the left and spurious legal challenges from the right they, to date have hugely reduced the attempts at asylum attempted crossings.

When tNYT's is saying a Democratic is doing something right with the economy we can know that hell is below freezing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/01/us/politics/biden-economy-bidenomics.html

The White House said it “strongly disagree[d]” with the decision to downgrade the U.S. credit rating, noting that the ratings model Fitch used declined under Trump before rebounding under Biden, and saying “it defies reality to downgrade the United States at a moment when President Biden has delivered the strongest recovery of any major economy in the world.” But it did agree that “extremism by Republican officials—from cheerleading default, to undermining governance and democracy, to seeking to extend deficit-busting tax giveaways for the wealthy and corporations—is a continued threat to our economy.”

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/august-2-2023

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https://fortune.com/2023/08/08/ups-drivers-170000-union-agreement-teamsters-middle-class-bidenomics/

Details of how Joe's support of Unions is starting to rebuild the middle class.

Looks like the Biden Administration might win the release of 5 US citizens who are being held in Iran.

Que the Republican outrage that Biden would work to protect US citizens.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-iran-us-prisoners-swap-deal-billions-e17dc67521798a2836ab4a3213e9277b

This change in economic policy is for The People and is a BFD.

Today the White House released a detailed explanation of “Bidenomics” along with resources explaining why the administration has focused on certain areas for public investment and how the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, the CHIPS and Science Act, and the Inflation Reduction Act have supported that investment. That collection explains why the administration is overturning forty years of political economy to return to the system on which the U.S. relied from 1933 to 1981...

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/august-11-2023

For the last 40 years the US Government has been the government for and by the 1%, with Biden that is no longer the case.

Mission Accomplished!

Cameron wrote:Mission Accomplished!

I wish that was the case, but the 1% have a 40-year head start.

Today’s issue is about how the old guard are trying to pretend that Trump and the pandemic never happened. It’s been a few years, and the memory of those initial days of Covid, when we didn’t know if we’d be able to get medicine or semiconductors, have faded. So now officials like Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, as well as semiconductor CEOs, are trying to take us back to the policies of the 1990s and 2000s that got us into the mess we’re in.

https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/how-to-forget-the-lessons-of-the

I think Joe "gets it" but there are way too many people in power that don't.

So, you might say that government is still by and for the 1%, then?

Cameron wrote:So, you might say that government is still by and for the 1%, then?

Personally I see it as factions within the government fighting on each side. Ever since Nixon resigned the Presidentcy has been in the hands of people who want to turn much of the government's services over to private business. Biden is the first to go against that, however too many people in his administration are stuck in the past. Senator Warren got a pretty good deal to be allowed to pick some key people in the staff who also get it, and the progressive wing in Congress has won some battles.

It took us 40 years to get here, it will take nearly as long to fix things.

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/4152644-federal-judge-tosses-suit-against-biden-student-loan-forgiveness-plan-for-long-term-borrowers/

Oh my, what will the people who like to complain about Biden's student loan forgiveness attemps say now.

Most likely they will bitch that he hasn't forgiven 100% of the loans...

/s

Most likely we’ll say that he’ll always have the votes of people who like to blame others, always consider everything he does or doesn’t do as a succes, and demand no accountability.

Primarily because they’re stuck in an echo chamber that only uses the former guy as their measuring stick.

kingstonlake wrote:Most likely we’ll say that he’ll always have the votes of people who like to blame others, always consider everything he does or doesn’t do as a succes, and demand no accountability.

Primarily because they’re stuck in an echo chamber that only uses the former guy as their measuring stick.

I agree, using limited logical tools to evaluate situations causes errors because of the tools being used.

Trapper Gus wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:Most likely we’ll say that he’ll always have the votes of people who like to blame others, always consider everything he does or doesn’t do as a succes, and demand no accountability.

Primarily because they’re stuck in an echo chamber that only uses the former guy as their measuring stick.

I agree, using limited logical tools to evaluate situations causes errors because of the tools being used.

Would figuring out who bumps this “crushing it” thread the most be a good tool? Could you use it as a measure of objectivity?

kingstonlake wrote:

Trapper Gus wrote:

I agree, using limited logical tools to evaluate situations causes errors because of the tools being used.

Would figuring out who bumps this “crushing it” thread the most be a good tool?  Could you use it as a measure of objectivity?

The tools I am thinking about are the tools we use to think.  Logics & languages are major tools for this.

To me the use of some form of a logic which uses a bi level  truth value, either "true" or if "not true" then "false" is much to limiting as a reasonable way to understand reality. A continuous system of truth values from 100% true to 100% not true, which is formally what the mathematics names Fuzzy Set Theory does, works for me.

Your question has a number of thoughts, however.  How would one define "objectivity" would be something which need definition, since it can mean different things.

An accepted philosophical argument which touchs on that is how, as a human, do we perceive the stimulus we (seemingly) receive from "reality" and when does this stimulus break down into "objective" and "subjective" ideas we can articulate to others.

To me reality is an somewhat unknowable "whole", and by whole I mean that reality is completely connected within itself and every bit of it effects every other bit, in ways we do not necessarily perceive and / or understand.

This relates back to my seemingly frequent posts in the Bin as a combination of my fascination with political activities and a lack of interest at same level by other posters.  Related to the "crushing it" thread, many of the posts about activities Biden is facilitating are, by some definition, objective observations which may be perceived as good things that Biden is doing.  In that sense it might be thought of as "objective"  

The seemingly high level of the number of posts in this thread by myself I think I addressed, but to reiterate, it is a combination of at least two "objective" conditions, my interests verses other people's interests.

TL, DR

kingstonlake wrote:TL, DR

QED

kingstonlake wrote:TL, DR

The condensed version is that it's ok to wear a short sleeved t-shirt over a long sleeved t-shirt.

Rick Saunders wrote:

kingstonlake wrote:TL, DR

The condensed version is that it's ok to wear a short sleeved t-shirt over a long sleeved t-shirt.

See how easy that was! Lol.

Biden is laying it all on the table with his support of the UAW.

He is pissing a bunch of people with money off, and poking a stick in the eye of the ghost of Reagan and all the private market is a god neoliberals who supported Reagan's vision of the United States for 40 years.

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https://apnews.com/article/president-joe-biden-strike-united-auto-workers-8ecc84eeca15c99673f31bdac6921f7b

VAN BUREN TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) — President Joe Biden grabbed a bullhorn on the picket line Tuesday and urged striking auto workers to “stick with it” in an unparalleled show of support for organized labor by a modern president.

Donning a union ballcap and exchanging fist bumps, Biden told United Auto Workers strikers that “you deserve the significant raise you need” as he stopped in the Detroit area...

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This move is a BFD by Biden

Biden > Obama

Joe Biden is a great American.

Throughout this thread there are posters who clearly are liberal & progressive, and who will almost certainly vote for Joe Biden in November 2024, who yet seem to believe that because with a majority in the US House for 2 years and a minority in the US Senate, though with control of the agenda in the US Seante, Joe failed.

Joe is the most progressive President the US has had since LBJ, and economically I believe he is more progressive than LBJ.

The following quote says it all.

Quietly, Biden has put together the most progressive resume of any president since LBJ, if not FDR. His policies almost always favor the working class over the privileged. Yesterday, speaking at the John McCain library dedication ceremony, he said: “Democracy means rule of the people, not rule of monarchs, not rule of the monied, not rule of the mighty.” In other words: rule of the prospectors and the miners and the millers, not rule of the owners of the gold mine.

https://gregolear.substack.com/p/labor-intensive-with-nelson-lichtenstein

PennSpartan was correct back in 2020 when he full throatedily supported Biden against all comers.

The blind optimist in me dreams of Biden & the Democratic Party running the table in the 2024 election, thus setting the table for the Democratic majority & Biden to do some of the acts that the Biden detractors complain about.

Are you encouraged by current polling data? Because I am not.

Cameron wrote:Are you encouraged by current polling data? Because I am not.

I find it hard to believe that if it came down to Trump/Biden Americans would choose trump.

Cameron wrote:Are you encouraged by current polling data? Because I am not.

I find it hard to believe that if it came down to Trump/Biden Americans would choose trump.

Cameron wrote:Are you encouraged by current polling data? Because I am not.

I said "blind".

No, the current polling says it will be a tight election, so though I realistically expect Biden to win in a blowout popular vote, which will turn the House blue, and a nail-biting EC vote, I do not expect a majority in the Senate (and the Senate map is heavily against the Democratic Party).

The only optimistic indicator thus far is that Democratic candidates keep outperforming the 2020 numbers in special elections.  However, that is somewhat tempered by what happened in Virginia in 2021.

edit - The blind optimist that I am, I am seeing a Blue Wave election because of the demographics, aka the older Trump voters dying and the under 40 voters being Bluer, and the "Protect Democracy & Our Freedoms" theme that Biden is using, and those Freedoms include the rights for abortion & health which resonate with most people & younger people in particular.

edit - in reply to DWags...

It is unlikely that they will, by popular vote, as they haven't yet in both of his elections.  However, because for the EC, and its inability to even moderately match the popular vote to the imbalance of popular Representation in the US House, it is very likely that who is elected will come down to the same states it did for both 2016 & 2020.

Trapper Gus wrote:

Cameron wrote:Are you encouraged by current polling data? Because I am not.

I said "blind".

No, the current polling says it will be a tight election, so though I realistically expect Biden to win in a blowout popular vote, which will turn the House blue, and a nail-biting EC vote, I do not expect a majority in the Senate (and the Senate map is heavily against the Democratic Party).

The only optimistic indicator thus far is that Democratic candidates keep outperforming the 2020 numbers in special elections.  However, that is somewhat tempered by what happened in Virginia in 2021.

edit - The blind optimist that I am, I am seeing a Blue Wave election because of the demographics, aka the older Trump voters dying and the under 40 voters being Bluer, and the "Protect Democracy & Our Freedoms" theme that Biden is using, and those Freedoms include the rights for abortion & health which resonate with most people & younger people in particular.

edit - in reply to DWags...

It is unlikely that they will, by popular vote, as they haven't yet in both of his elections.  However, because for the EC, and its inability to even moderately match the popular vote to the imbalance of popular Representation in the US House, it is very likely that who is elected will come down to the same states it did for both 2016 & 2020.

when is there ever a favorable election for dems in the senate? seems like every year it's being pre-determined that it is out of reach.

on one hand, it makes sense since there are more "right wing" states with smaller populations. But it's always a dreary outlook.