35 years ago today

by **duffy munn** Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:49 pm

Two brothers in their 20's opened at bar in East Lansing at the corner of Grand River and Abbott. Purchased from Spartan great Robert Viney with borrowed money they were unlikely to be able to pay back.

5 days later was the first football Saturday. MSU beat Notre Dame behind great games from Lo White and Dave Yarema. George beat Lou Holtz that day and the bar rang $7500 in sales. Barely covering the inventory and combined weekly salaries of $550 a week.

Good times

by **NigelUno** Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:53 pm

I heard the seafood was good.

by **duffy munn** Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:43 pm

NigelUno wrote:I heard the seafood was good.

Oysters, shrimp and a fresh catch. Nothing over 8 bucks. Did it for about 2 years then ditched the whole concept and went full blown college bar. Basically when the older brother opened a new bar in Auburn Hills.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:47 pm

duffy i don't know the backstory to any of this or your bar do you want to give me a synopsis

by **Dendrobates** Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:48 pm

I could make you feel really old.
But I won't.

by **tGreenWay** Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:57 pm

Happy Anniversary, Duffy, even if it’s not in the family anymore. Some great memories there. Loved biting off the gummy shark’s head.

by **NigelUno** Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:02 pm

duffy munn wrote:
NigelUno wrote:I heard the seafood was good.

Oysters, shrimp and a fresh catch. Nothing over 8 bucks. Did it for about 2 years then ditched the whole concept and went full blown college bar. Basically when the older brother opened a new bar in Auburn Hills.

I remember the oysters. There were some characters around back in the day.

by **Heat Miser** Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:05 pm

Saw Gary Umlauf there many times. The crowd liked to buy Gary Jaegar shots and Gary liked drinking them. One night he drank too many and could no longer play/sing. He stopped mid song and bolted up the back staircase in embarrassment. Came back a few minutes later to a rousing ovation. He was a pretty talented regular on the E.L cover act scene. Good times.

by **Heat Miser** Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:11 pm

I also sank the 8 ball on the break playing pool there one night. Mostly split my time between tShark and Rick's, depending on who had the better drink special/live music.

35 years ago today 969504605

by **duffy munn** Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:21 pm

Heat Miser wrote:Saw Gary Umlauf there many times. The crowd liked to buy Gary Jaegar shots and Gary liked drinking them. One night he drank too many and could no longer play/sing. He stopped mid song and bolted up the back staircase in embarrassment. Came back a few minutes later to a rousing ovation. He was a pretty talented regular on the E.L cover act scene. Good times.

Gary was a good dude and helped put us on the map. Before he went solo he played with a hot chick named Patty and they were called Souvenir.The stage was of pieces of ply wood propped up by cases of empty beer bottles.

by **duffy munn** Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:27 pm

Dendrobates wrote:I could make you feel really old.
But I won't.

I'm have 3.85 grand kids, Dendro. ( 4th due in 6 weeks). Nothing you can do can make me feel any older but I welcome what you have to offer.

by **Heat Miser** Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:33 pm

duffy munn wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:Saw Gary Umlauf there many times. The crowd liked to buy Gary Jaegar shots and Gary liked drinking them. One night he drank too many and could no longer play/sing. He stopped mid song and bolted up the back staircase in embarrassment. Came back a few minutes later to a rousing ovation. He was a pretty talented regular on the E.L cover act scene. Good times.

Gary was a good dude and helped put us on the map. Before he went solo he played with a hot chick named Patty and they were called Souvenir.The stage was of pieces of ply wood propped up by cases of empty beer bottles.

I remember Souvenir as well. Patty was indeed hot. Had a Christine McVie kind of voice.

by **duffy munn** Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:50 pm

Heat Miser wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Gary was a good dude and helped put us on the map. Before he went solo he played with a hot chick named Patty and they were called Souvenir.The stage was of pieces of ply wood propped up by cases of empty beer bottles.

I remember Souvenir as well. Patty was indeed hot. Had a Christine McVie kind of voice.

Both were very talented. Killed it with Burning Down the House, Hands Across the Water etc. Amazing how two people with guitars, mics and a drum machine could rock (and pack) the house. Cover was 2 bucks.

by **Heat Miser** Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:03 pm

Cecilia, Closer to Fine, American Pie, & of course Brown Eyed Girl would liven things up pretty good too. I asked him to play something one night that I'd never heard him play before (can't remember what it was) & he pulled out one of his cassette backing tracks during the next set (that he said he also played all the instruments on) & nailed it.

I'd give my left nut to re-live those 5 years.

by **duffy munn** Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:16 pm

Heat Miser wrote:Cecilia, Closer to Fine, American Pie, & of course Brown Eyed Girl would liven things up pretty good too. I asked him to play something one night that I'd never heard him play before (can't remember what it was) & he pulled out one of his cassette backing tracks during the next set (that he said he also played all the instruments on) & nailed it.

I'd give my left nut to re-live those 5 years.

Gary nailed Elton John's Madman Across The Water too. It was a good 5 years for me as well Heat.

by **NigelUno** Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:16 pm

Heat Miser wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Gary was a good dude and helped put us on the map. Before he went solo he played with a hot chick named Patty and they were called Souvenir.The stage was of pieces of ply wood propped up by cases of empty beer bottles.

I remember Souvenir as well. Patty was indeed hot. Had a Christine McVie kind of voice.

Dang. I remember them.

by **NigelUno** Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:18 pm

Was Jerry Sprague there at the beginning also?

by **duffy munn** Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:30 pm

NigelUno wrote:Was Jerry Sprague there at the beginning also?

Jerry started at PT's when they were "on the alley" above Top dog. They moved to their current location around 1990. Played a few times at the Shark. Also a good dude.

by **Heat Miser** Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:49 pm

duffy munn wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Was Jerry Sprague there at the beginning also?

Jerry started at PT's when they were "on the alley" above Top dog. They moved to their current location around 1990. Played a few times at the Shark. Also a good dude.

The chili cheese fries at Dog Pound was the best I ever had. Perfect after bar grub. Something got lost in the recipe when it became Top Dog. In 35 years, I've yet to find anything that comes close to the Dog Pound formula & it's not for lack of looking.

by AvgMSUJoe Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:00 am

Wasn't around for Dog Pound... but I vaguely remember regretting drunkenly inhaling chilli cheese fries at top dog.

by **Turtleneck** Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:28 am

Thought this thread was going to be about Bo Jackson's first MLB home run.

https://theundefeated.com/features/bo-jacksons-first-home-run/

by **tGreenWay** Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:27 am

duffy munn wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Was Jerry Sprague there at the beginning also?

Jerry started at PT's when they were "on the alley" above Top dog. They moved to their current location around 1990. Played a few times at the Shark. Also a good dude.

That alley location was hella hot and always packed to the gills and always a good time, especially with Jerry Sprague in the window.
We were thrilled when they made the move, but something changed in the new/current location. Couldn’t ever put my finger on it except to say it lost the feel of the original PT’s. Quickly lost interest because it never felt the same.
The Dog Pound >>>>> Top Dog.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:18 am

Never got to experience the wonderment, as we moved to EL when we were in our mid-20's. Didn't spend much time at the college bars because, well, my wife would've probably found out.

regardless, Happy Anniversary, Duff - a lot of work and stress, I'm sure, but it has to be a good feeling knowing so many people have such great memories of your place.

by **duffy munn** Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:54 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Never got to experience the wonderment, as we moved to EL when we were in our mid-20's. Didn't spend much time at the college bars because, well, my wife would've probably found out.

regardless, Happy Anniversary, Duff - a lot of work and stress, I'm sure, but it has to be a good feeling knowing so many people have such great memories of your place.

Thanks Bob. I always wanted to be Joe Bell when I grew up and made it 25 years. Most proud of all of my former employees. Many went on to do amazing things. Also the countless marriages that resulted from hanging out in a bar. (and probably many divorces)

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:58 am

duffy munn wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Never got to experience the wonderment, as we moved to EL when we were in our mid-20's. Didn't spend much time at the college bars because, well, my wife would've probably found out.

regardless, Happy Anniversary, Duff - a lot of work and stress, I'm sure, but it has to be a good feeling knowing so many people have such great memories of your place.

Thanks Bob. I always wanted to be Joe Bell when I grew up and made it 25 years. Most proud of all of my former employees. Many went on to do amazing things. Also the countless marriages that resulted from hanging out in a bar. (and probably many divorces)

yeah, I suspect you're onto something there. 35 years ago today 502811600

Joe and Jennifer have definitely done it the right way. They're transitioning things over to Megan, it seems.

by **steveschneider** Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:59 am

I don’t know what is going on but Duffy has always been a HOF Spartan in my book. You rule and I congratulate you on all of your success.

by **Motown Spartan** Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:14 am

How cool. Never knew you were such a Spartan legend. Thanks for many memories I'll never remember and all the hangovers. Cheers!

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:20 am

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:duffy i don't know the backstory to any of this or your bar do you want to give me a synopsis

nevermind i'll just go fuck myself

by **duffy munn** Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:20 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Thanks Bob. I always wanted to be Joe Bell when I grew up and made it 25 years. Most proud of all of my former employees. Many went on to do amazing things. Also the countless marriages that resulted from hanging out in a bar. (and probably many divorces)
yeah, I suspect you're onto something there.

Joe and Jennifer have definitely done it the right way. They're transitioning things over to Megan, it seems.

Yeah Joe is easing himself out but I suspect he will never fully retire. He was tending bar Saturday morning.

by **duffy munn** Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:22 am

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:duffy i don't know the backstory to any of this or your bar do you want to give me a synopsis

nevermind i'll just go fuck myself

Sorry dude I missed your first post. I owned the Landshark for 25 years and we opened on 9/15/86. I was feeling nostalgic when I started the thread.

by **duffy munn** Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:24 am

Motown Spartan wrote:How cool. Never knew you were such a Spartan legend. Thanks for many memories I'll never remember and all the hangovers. Cheers!

My pleasure and thank YOU. Pretty sure I helped to create many alcoholics. ( not saying you)

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:26 am

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:duffy i don't know the backstory to any of this or your bar do you want to give me a synopsis

nevermind i'll just go fuck myself

by **DWags** Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:09 am

Motown Spartan wrote:How cool. Never knew you were such a Spartan legend. Thanks for many memories I'll never remember and all the hangovers. Cheers!

Legend? Let’s just reel this in a bit. Jingles= Legend. Duffy= Duffy.

35 years ago today 502811600

love you Duffy. See you October 2nd at the night game. By the way, wife Just went in on basketball season tickets when her best friend lost the couple they were sharing four with. So, I’ll be up frequently I guess.

by **duffy munn** Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:31 am

DWags wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:How cool. Never knew you were such a Spartan legend. Thanks for many memories I'll never remember and all the hangovers. Cheers!

Legend? Let’s just reel this in a bit. Jingles= Legend. Duffy= Duffy.

.

Truth. It's Jingles Spartan World and we are all just renting space.

by **DWags** Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:46 am

duffy munn wrote:
DWags wrote:

Legend? Let’s just reel this in a bit. Jingles= Legend. Duffy= Duffy.

.

Truth. It's Jingles Spartan World and we are all just renting space.

I’ve just been texted. He’s also gracing Miami with his presence. We’ve said it already. Guy is ubiquitous and omnipresent. Of course he’ll be in Miami. 35 years ago today 502811600

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:16 pm

DWags wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Truth. It's Jingles Spartan World and we are all just renting space.

I’ve just been texted. He’s also gracing Miami with his presence. We’ve said it already. Guy is ubiquitous and omnipresent. Of course he’ll be in Miami.

BREAKING: Jingles in transit to Hard Rock Stadium.

developing...

35 years ago today 20210215

by **duffy munn** Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:16 pm

DWags wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Truth. It's Jingles Spartan World and we are all just renting space.

I’ve just been texted. He’s also gracing Miami with his presence. We’ve said it already. Guy is ubiquitous and omnipresent. Of course he’ll be in Miami.

Yep of course he is. Jingles wing man for this trip is a recently reited big wig with the Spartan F

DWags wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Truth. It's Jingles Spartan World and we are all just renting space.

I’ve just been texted. He’s also gracing Miami with his presence. We’ve said it already. Guy is ubiquitous and omnipresent. Of course he’ll be in Miami.

Yes of course Jingles is going. His wing man for this trip is a recently retired big wig with the Spartan Fund. I highly recomend you find them as doors will swing open.

First time I met this dude was in Indy in 2011. WE went without tickets so Jingles said let's swing by the team hotel. Spartan fund guy appears and asks if we need tickets. Bingo bango we have our own suite in the lower level at the 40 yard line. Sidenote: I think I was the only spartan in the stadium who saw the flag for roughing the kicker.

by **The Pantry** Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:38 pm

Must be old cause no idea what any of you are talking about. What is/was the Landshark? Who is Jiggles?

Restaurants/bars I remember:

Beggar's Banquet
Lizard's Lounge
El Azteco...both EL and Lansing locations
Dooley's
Pan Tree
Pretzel Bell
Alley Eye/Players Club
the place west of Harrison, north of Trowbridge that had decent clam chowder. Think the name started with an H?
the bar at the Harley Hotel senior year was excellent. Had a great jazz band playing 4 nights a week.
the place a block off Grand River that had a Bluegrass band Thursday nights
Silver Dollar
MAC's
Westside
never went to Coral Gables
At least a dozen other places I can't remember

by **duffy munn** Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:36 am

The Pantry wrote:Must be old cause no idea what any of you are talking about. What is/was the Landshark? Who is Jiggles?

Restaurants/bars I remember:

Beggar's Banquet
Lizard's Lounge
El Azteco...both EL and Lansing locations
Dooley's
Pan Tree
Pretzel Bell
Alley Eye/Players Club
the place west of Harrison, north of Trowbridge that had decent clam chowder. Think the name started with an H?
the bar at the Harley Hotel senior year was excellent. Had a great jazz band playing 4 nights a week.
the place a block off Grand River that had a Bluegrass band Thursday nights
Silver Dollar
MAC's
Westside
never went to Coral Gables
At least a dozen other places I can't remember

Who is Jingles? Turn in your Spartan card Pantry.

by **NigelUno** Thu Sep 16, 2021 8:47 am

The Pantry wrote:Must be old cause no idea what any of you are talking about. What is/was the Landshark? Who is Jiggles?

Restaurants/bars I remember:

Beggar's Banquet
Lizard's Lounge
El Azteco...both EL and Lansing locations
Dooley's
Pan Tree
Pretzel Bell
Alley Eye/Players Club
the place west of Harrison, north of Trowbridge that had decent clam chowder. Think the name started with an H?
the bar at the Harley Hotel senior year was excellent. Had a great jazz band playing 4 nights a week.
the place a block off Grand River that had a Bluegrass band Thursday nights
Silver Dollar
MAC's
Westside
never went to Coral Gables
At least a dozen other places I can't remember

I'll help you out with a few.

Burger King
Sir Pizza
McDonald's
Taco Bell
Arby's

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