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Post by GRR Spartan 2022-01-14, 11:02

Here’s link from today’s GR Press about a 75 year old professor who should have left the ranks of college instructors no later than May 2020.

Passed the link on to my son-in-law in academia to use as a What Not to Say/Do/Admit

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2022/01/you-people-are-just-vectors-of-disease-to-me-ferris-state-professor-goes-on-curse-filled-rant-during-lecture.html
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Post by tGreenWay 2022-01-14, 11:42

Profanities aside, gramps ain’t wrong.
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Post by Dendrobates 2022-01-14, 12:20

That's hilarious! He's totally right. And I'm sure he thought...ok so fire me. Why do I care?
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Post by MSU addict 2022-01-14, 12:29

Any of you who think he is other than bat shit crazy want to defend this:

“None of you (expletive) are good enough to earn an A in my class, so I randomly assign grades before the first day of class,” Mehler said in the video. “I don’t want to know (expletive) about you. I don’t even want to know your name. I just look at the number and I assign a grade. That is how predestination works. And don’t come (expletive) complaining to me, take your complaints to God. He ordained this system, not me.”

If he truly believes in predestination than he shouldn't give a shit about catching COVID.


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Post by Heat Miser 2022-01-14, 12:32

MSU addict wrote:Any of you who think he is other than bat shit crazy want to defend this:

“None of you (expletive) are good enough to earn an A in my class, so I randomly assign grades before the first day of class,” Mehler said in the video. “I don’t want to know (expletive) about you. I don’t even want to know your name. I just look at the number and I assign a grade. That is how predestination works. And don’t come (expletive) complaining to me, take your complaints to God. He ordained this system, not me.”

Think he just invited a review of every grade he's ever given. You know it’s past time to retire when 1966794946
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Post by MSU addict 2022-01-14, 12:33

Heat Miser wrote:
MSU addict wrote:Any of you who think he is other than bat shit crazy want to defend this:


Think he just invited a review of every grade he's ever given. You know it’s past time to retire when 1966794946
That was my thought as well.
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Post by Dendrobates 2022-01-14, 13:10

MSU addict wrote:Any of you who think he is other than bat shit crazy want to defend this:

“None of you (expletive) are good enough to earn an A in my class, so I randomly assign grades before the first day of class,” Mehler said in the video. “I don’t want to know (expletive) about you. I don’t even want to know your name. I just look at the number and I assign a grade. That is how predestination works. And don’t come (expletive) complaining to me, take your complaints to God. He ordained this system, not me.”

If he truly believes in predestination than he shouldn't give a shit about catching COVID.

I did not read the whole thing.
Alright, he's a complete asshole. But I'm sure he really doesn't care if he's fired at this point in his life.
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Post by DWags 2022-01-14, 13:14

I mean, it’s funny, but man I don’t want to get to that age and be that angry.
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Post by MSU addict 2022-01-14, 13:18

FWIW, here is the actual video:



He comes off as intelligent but paranoid, a bit racist and probably bat shit crazy.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2022-01-14, 13:55

That guy is great.
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Post by PennSpartan 2022-01-14, 15:58

Make him a Dean.
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Post by Dendrobates 2022-01-14, 20:06

Ok I watched the whole video. The guy is an asshole, but hilarious. And I don't blame him. The grade thing is a real dick move, but I agree with everything else he said. Good for him. I'd want take his class just for fun.
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Post by MSU addict 2022-01-14, 22:11

Dendrobates wrote:Ok I watched the whole video. The guy is an asshole, but hilarious. And I don't blame him. The grade thing is a real dick move, but I agree with everything else he said. Good for him. I'd want take his class just for fun.
I am 99% sure he does not actually grade this way, he even mentions at the 13:42 minute mark.. everything you need to earn an A is available...

I am confident he is just making a teaching point about the stupidity of predestination and driving it home by making students feel the unfair randomness.

He does give off a self absorbed, old man yelling at the clouds, asshole vibe though. I am sure I would do well in his class, but I have never understood the point of being an asshole just to be one.

Things my mother taught me:

1) Never start a sentence with "you people."
2) If you feel the need to swear a lot, you are not an effective speaker.
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Post by Heat Miser 2022-01-14, 23:35

MSU addict wrote:
Dendrobates wrote:Ok I watched the whole video. The guy is an asshole, but hilarious. And I don't blame him. The grade thing is a real dick move, but I agree with everything else he said. Good for him. I'd want take his class just for fun.
I am 99% sure he does not actually grade this way, he even mentions at the 13:42 minute mark.. everything you need to earn an A is available...

I am confident he is just making a teaching point about the stupidity of predestination and driving it home by making students feel the unfair randomness.

He does give off a self absorbed, old man yelling at the clouds, asshole vibe though. I am sure I would do well in his class, but I have never understood the point of being an asshole just to be one.

Things my mother taught me:

1) Never start a sentence with "you people."
2) If you feel the need to swear a lot, you are not an effective speaker.

You have discovered the purpose of tSwill. Those who are here to be assholes just to be assholes are not welcome.
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Post by Cameron 2022-01-15, 01:15

Heat Miser wrote:
MSU addict wrote:I am 99% sure he does not actually grade this way, he even mentions at the 13:42 minute mark.. everything you need to earn an A is available...

I am confident he is just making a teaching point about the stupidity of predestination and driving it home by making students feel the unfair randomness.

He does give off a self absorbed, old man yelling at the clouds, asshole vibe though. I am sure I would do well in his class, but I have never understood the point of being an asshole just to be one.

Things my mother taught me:

1) Never start a sentence with "you people."
2) If you feel the need to swear a lot, you are not an effective speaker.

You have discovered the purpose of tSwill. Those who are here to be assholes just to be assholes are not welcome.

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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2022-01-15, 08:13

The whole thing was scripted... and much of it was to make a point about the ridiculousness of "in person" for the sake of "in person". And to inform the kids how to deal with his class. Much of the "bad" stuff was from his plagiarism rant...
It would be nice to be able to function without a filter. I can't even fathom that.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2022-01-15, 09:54

What course was this posted for, that predestination would be a thing.

He is a history prof so I'm guessing some sort of religious history?
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Post by Turtleneck 2022-01-15, 10:53

MSU addict wrote:
Dendrobates wrote:Ok I watched the whole video. The guy is an asshole, but hilarious. And I don't blame him. The grade thing is a real dick move, but I agree with everything else he said. Good for him. I'd want take his class just for fun.
I am 99% sure he does not actually grade this way, he even mentions at the 13:42 minute mark.. everything you need to earn an A is available...

I am confident he is just making a teaching point about the stupidity of predestination and driving it home by making students feel the unfair randomness.

He does give off a self absorbed, old man yelling at the clouds, asshole vibe though. I am sure I would do well in his class, but I have never understood the point of being an asshole just to be one.

Things my mother taught me:

1) Never start a sentence with "you people."
2) If you feel the need to swear a lot, you are not an effective speaker.

You can say that with 100 certainty. I don’t know what he is up to but it’s a big act of some sort.
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Post by Turtleneck 2022-01-19, 14:14

Ferris State professor who made profanity-laced video threatens lawsuit if not reinstated

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/01/19/ferris-state-professor-barry-mehler-video-lawsuit/6581088001/

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2022-01-19, 15:33

mental health is a real issue in this country.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2022-01-19, 15:53

same guy from 7-8 years ago.

the disparity of his behavior between the two videos should concern people close to him. And if the most recent video is just an armchair attempt at an Oscar nomination filmed in jest as satirical frivolity on his way out the door, it's really unfortunate that he would use his position as a tenured faculty member to trivialize his role at the institution and, indeed, the institution itself.

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