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Post by DWags Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:40 pm

And the rivalry will never be the same.

https://twitter.com/realtonygarcia/status/1595485964805324812?s=46&t=tqjRMRh3YvVQgr1iDca8mQ
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Post by DWags Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:41 pm

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:41 pm

Clowns. Every single person in that waste of space city and school is a clown. Fuck them so hard. When they shit on our locker room again charge them all with destruction of property. When they swear on the sideline hit them with a charge from a 1827 law banning profanity. Whatever there is, charge them with it.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:44 pm

No more fucking quarter when your basketball coach starts swinging. Lol one game suspension? Fuck you. We’re going for prison. This will swing back on that school so fucking hard because they are the ones that show up at every other big ten school acting like they own the place.
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Post by DWags Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:48 pm

I don’t know what to think. I do know Harbaugh wanted this badly. Asking a reporter last year to ask him about the big ten apologizing to him. He’s bitter about being 4-4 and owning the most iconic loss in school history.

He’s changed this game forever.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:50 pm

DWags wrote:I don’t know what to think. I do know Harbaugh wanted this badly. Asking a reporter last year to ask him about the big ten apologizing to him. He’s bitter about being 4-4 and owning the most iconic loss in school history.

He’s changed this game forever.

If the DA there succumbed to any amount of pressure from a goddamn idiot meathead football coach then he should be immediately disbarred.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:52 pm

Not joking. Unless he actually has a case of assault, if this is all just rivalry posturing and most of these charges get dismissed, then he should have his career destroyed due to violating ethics requirements. This had better have absolutely nothing to do with rivalries, for his careers sake.

Hope you get those convictions asshole. And if not, hope it’s worth it.
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Post by Motown Spartan Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:56 pm

I fully expect Tucker to lift the suspensions on everyone but Crump. If not, fire Mel Tucker.
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Post by steveschneider Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:57 pm

I can’t recall the last time a sports brawl resulted in charges. I remember Marty McSorley hit a guy in the temple with a hockey stick and there was talks of charging him and I don’t think it ever happened.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:05 pm

fuck them.

I suspect the UM program/team/those involved want this to be settled out of court. Fuck that - go to court. Let's find out what really happened with sworn testimony, evidence, videos, subpoenas, etc.

put this out in the open for everyone to see.
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Post by duffy munn Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:18 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Not joking. Unless he actually has a case of assault, if this is all just rivalry posturing and most of these charges get dismissed, then he should have his career destroyed due to violating ethics requirements. This had better have absolutely nothing to do with rivalries, for his careers sake.

Hope you get those convictions asshole. And if not, hope it’s worth it.

At this point I don't think it matters whether there are convictions. The damage is done.
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Post by NigelUno Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:23 pm

Ball in the Big Ten's court now (regarding suspensions). I'm sure their response will be timely.

I'd guess at least 6 will plead no contest and get some kind of probation.

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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:24 pm

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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Not joking. Unless he actually has a case of assault, if this is all just rivalry posturing and most of these charges get dismissed, then he should have his career destroyed due to violating ethics requirements. This had better have absolutely nothing to do with rivalries, for his careers sake.

Hope you get those convictions asshole. And if not, hope it’s worth it.

At this point I don't think it matters whether there are convictions. The damage is done.

For us, maybe. But it matters for his career. He’s not a king that gets to wield power over the law at his will. If he is taking orders from a football coach he needs to be disbarred and removed from office.

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Post by DWags Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:32 pm

Let me just get this straight. 6 players only have a misdemeanor charge.1 has no charge. And they’ve been suspended now for 4 games. They can’t be reinstated at this point. Too dangerous to play after 3 1/2 weeks of inactivity. Will all players now be suspended with misdemeanors?
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Post by MiamiSpartan Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:38 pm

So if this happened on the field, would there be charges? How many times have we seen football brawls where players swing their helmets, and have they ever resulted in charges? What kind of precedent does this set for fighting in sports?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:42 pm

Did they announce charges against the guy that touched tuckers head yet? That is, after all, assault.
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Post by NigelUno Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:53 pm

DWags wrote:And the rivalry will never be the same.

https://twitter.com/realtonygarcia/status/1595485964805324812?s=46&t=tqjRMRh3YvVQgr1iDca8mQ

Gonna be 60 minutes of unnecessary roughness next fall.
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Post by steveschneider Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:06 pm

Next trip to Ann Arbor hire the hells angels as security and let them do the dirty work.
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Post by Cameron Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:24 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Clowns. Every single person in that waste of space city and school is a clown. Fuck them so hard. When they shit on our locker room again charge them all with destruction of property. When they swear on the sideline hit them with a charge from a 1827 law banning profanity. Whatever there is, charge them with it.

I believe the statute of limitations is generally 5 years. Still time to charge Devin Bush and others.
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Post by duffy munn Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:24 pm

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At this point I don't think it matters whether there are convictions. The damage is done.

For us, maybe. But it matters for his career. He’s not a king that gets to wield power over the law at his will. If he is taking orders from a football coach he needs to be disbarred and removed from office.

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The narrative is already set regardless of the outcomes of trials. MSU football players are thugs that jumped an innocent U of M player unprovoked.

And I highly doubt the prosecutor will face any consequences or even scrutiny.
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Post by Cameron Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:32 pm

Prosecutors rarely do. I should start a fuck prosecutors thread over on tBin, that's a topic ripe for discussion. Prosecutors are mostly bad people. My sister is a prosecutor, and I've always thought she was kind of a bitch.
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Post by steveschneider Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:56 pm

Next trip to Ann Arbor hire the hells angels as security and let them do the dirty work.
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Post by DWags Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:58 pm

steveschneider wrote:Next trip to Ann Arbor hire the hells angels as security and let them do the dirty work.

What are we the Rolling Fucking Stones?
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Post by aualum06 Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:03 pm

MSU allowing this by a joke prosecutor is disgusting
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Post by aualum06 Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:04 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
DWags wrote:I don’t know what to think. I do know Harbaugh wanted this badly. Asking a reporter last year to ask him about the big ten apologizing to him. He’s bitter about being 4-4 and owning the most iconic loss in school history.

He’s changed this game forever.

If the DA there succumbed to any amount of pressure from a goddamn idiot meathead football coach then he should be immediately disbarred.

The da is a fucking fanboy
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:43 pm

I don't know what to say...

I guess if your head coach is Black you had better be prepared for the racist justice system going after his team.
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Post by DWags Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:15 pm

duffy munn wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

For us, maybe. But it matters for his career. He’s not a king that gets to wield power over the law at his will. If he is taking orders from a football coach he needs to be disbarred and removed from office.

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The narrative is already set regardless of the outcomes of trials. MSU football players are thugs that jumped an innocent U of M player unprovoked.

And I highly doubt the prosecutor will face any consequences or even scrutiny.

100% this. We blew this from the jump. Never got out in front of it. I don’t know shit about a lot of things but I can tell you if Dantonio Hollis and LAKS were here there would have been a different narrative. Not saying Haller and Tucker don’t learn from this, but in this case it’s way too late.
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:19 pm

Seriously, this is wrong on so many levels.

The first one is that UofM is painting a big target on their back. Only the norms of not charging players for what would be chargable actions on any other situation, which UofM has now broken, have kept physical sports from turning into court cases.

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Post by Turtleneck Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:42 pm

I didn't read through the thread, but this sets a crazy precedent. Also, it will come back to haunt UM. Next time Juwan Howard punches another coach, there will be assault charges.
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:47 pm

Turtleneck wrote:I didn't read through the thread, but this sets a crazy precedent. Also, it will come back to haunt UM. Next time Juwan Howard punches another coach, there will be assault charges.

As someone pointed out, legally there still could be, as the statute of limitations has not expired.

Tucker probably has dismissed the idea of assault charge for the person "touching" his head, but he doesn't have to, and it might be wise not to.

The question of pressing charges for personal fouls after the whistle is blown or for targeting could now be in play.
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Post by Motown Spartan Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:57 pm

Turtleneck wrote:I didn't read through the thread, but this sets a crazy precedent. Also, it will come back to haunt UM. Next time Juwan Howard punches another coach, there will be assault charges.

I feel like you read me tweet.
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:00 pm

Another thought, once people start to litigate fights between football players is that if a player is hurt during a game via a penalty then the school of the player who comitted the penalty might be sued for lost future earnings...
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Post by Motown Spartan Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:07 pm

6 charges will be dropped, Crump’s will be pleaded down to a fine.

But the point was made.
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Post by Cameron Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:15 pm

Motown Spartan wrote:6 charges will be dropped, Crump’s will be pleaded down to a fine.

But the point was made.

Fucking prosecutors LOVE to overcharge to get a plea so they don't have to do any actual work. And there is no downside or disincentive for them to do so on literally every case that hits their desk.
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Post by kingstonlake Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:32 pm

In the 2004 South Carolina/Clemson brawl (where a helmet less player was kicked in the head) South Carolina players were suspended for the first game the following season and Clemson was allowed to stagger their suspension throughout the next season and most played in the following seasons opener (A victory over TX A&M). No state player with exception of Crump should have been suspended for more than a game.

But yeah, this better blow back hard on SCum.

Have Lansing police at the ready and handcuff any SCum player who breaks even the most remote law. Preferably in the middle of the game.
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Post by Motown Spartan Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:53 pm

I hope every player gets a personal foul for unnecessary roughness in the game next year.
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Post by Floyd Robertson Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:53 pm

Great, it just on ABC evening national news. Good thing only old geezers watch it.
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Post by Turtleneck Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:15 pm

kingstonlake wrote:In the 2004 South Carolina/Clemson brawl (where a helmet less player was kicked in the head) South Carolina players were suspended for the first game the following season and Clemson was allowed to stagger their suspension throughout the next season and most played in the following seasons opener (A victory over TX A&M). No state player with exception of Crump should have been suspended for more than a game.

But yeah, this better blow back hard on SCum.

Have Lansing police at the ready and handcuff any SCum player who breaks even the most remote law. Preferably in the middle of the game.

Was LeGarrette Blount charged after slugging a Boise St player post-game? How about any Miami-FIU players after their crazy fight years ago? No rational DA brings charges because of the terrible precedent this sets, but a corrupted puppet DA certainly would.
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:21 pm

Turtleneck wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:In the 2004 South Carolina/Clemson brawl (where a helmet less player was kicked in the head) South Carolina players were suspended for the first game the following season and Clemson was allowed to stagger their suspension throughout the next season and most played in the following seasons opener (A victory over TX A&M). No state player with exception of Crump should have been suspended for more than a game.

But yeah, this better blow back hard on SCum.

Have Lansing police at the ready and handcuff any SCum player who breaks even the most remote law. Preferably in the middle of the game.

Was LeGarrette Blount charged after slugging a Boise St player post-game? How about any Miami-FIU players after their crazy fight years ago? No rational DA brings charges because of the terrible precedent this sets, but a corrupted puppet DA certainly would.

Seriously? There are assaults during every play on a football field.
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