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Post by GRR Spartan 2023-06-15, 19:19

2 Managers sent a memo to the news room wanting them to remember West MI is a “conservative” community and they didn’t need to cover so many events in June.

According to station management those two managers have been removed from any coverage of Pride Month while corporate (NexStar) investigates.


https://news.yahoo.com/wood-tv-reporters-producers-rail-200342456.html

Michele DeSelms, the anchor of the 7:00 pm new show who was quoted saying the Newroom was united in pushing back supporting their co-workers, family members and friends and saying they would fight giving equal time to those unhappy was conspicuously absent tonight.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2023-06-15, 19:37

Thanks for posting this, GRR.

Reminder to stop getting your 'news' from the mainstream media.

Wife and I hard heading to the Pride rally this Saturday in Old Town. Fuck the media and republicans/libertarians.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-06-15, 20:13

GRR Spartan wrote:2 Managers sent a memo to the news room wanting them to remember West MI is a “conservative” community and they didn’t need to cover so many events in June.

According to station management those two managers have been removed from any coverage of Pride Month while corporate (NexStar) investigates.


https://news.yahoo.com/wood-tv-reporters-producers-rail-200342456.html

Michele DeSelms, the anchor of the 7:00 pm new show who was quoted saying the Newroom was united in pushing back supporting their co-workers, family members and friends and saying they would fight giving equal time to those unhappy was conspicuously absent tonight.

These conservative assholes are out of control and definitely don't believe in the ideals of the United States.  Sorry to yank TM's chain but this is where the worship of the market as a God and Libertarianism takes us.
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Post by Jake from State Farm 2023-06-16, 08:24

Trapper Gus wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:2 Managers sent a memo to the news room wanting them to remember West MI is a “conservative” community and they didn’t need to cover so many events in June.

According to station management those two managers have been removed from any coverage of Pride Month while corporate (NexStar) investigates.


https://news.yahoo.com/wood-tv-reporters-producers-rail-200342456.html

Michele DeSelms, the anchor of the 7:00 pm new show who was quoted saying the Newroom was united in pushing back supporting their co-workers, family members and friends and saying they would fight giving equal time to those unhappy was conspicuously absent tonight.

These conservative assholes are out of control and definitely don't believe in the ideals of the United States.  Sorry to yank TM's chain but this is where the worship of the market as a God and Libertarianism takes us.

Taking us back to the 1950's one step at a time.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-06-16, 08:31

Jake from State Farm wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

These conservative assholes are out of control and definitely don't believe in the ideals of the United States.  Sorry to yank TM's chain but this is where the worship of the market as a God and Libertarianism takes us.

Taking us back to the 1950's one step at a time.

No, we are in a much worse place than the 1950's. Media ownership in the 1950's was limited by law to a small number of broadcast stations or newspapers. Those laws need to be brought back.
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Post by TravelinMan 2023-06-16, 08:54

Trapper Gus wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:2 Managers sent a memo to the news room wanting them to remember West MI is a “conservative” community and they didn’t need to cover so many events in June.

According to station management those two managers have been removed from any coverage of Pride Month while corporate (NexStar) investigates.


https://news.yahoo.com/wood-tv-reporters-producers-rail-200342456.html

Michele DeSelms, the anchor of the 7:00 pm new show who was quoted saying the Newroom was united in pushing back supporting their co-workers, family members and friends and saying they would fight giving equal time to those unhappy was conspicuously absent tonight.

These conservative assholes are out of control and definitely don't believe in the ideals of the United States.  Sorry to yank TM's chain but this is where the worship of the market as a God and Libertarianism takes us.

You know that Libertarians are probably the most pro-LGBTQxyz political group in existence, right?
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-06-16, 09:00

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

These conservative assholes are out of control and definitely don't believe in the ideals of the United States.  Sorry to yank TM's chain but this is where the worship of the market as a God and Libertarianism takes us.

You know that Libertarians are probably the most pro-LGBTQxyz political group in existence, right?

I know that the logical, and now demonstratable real world, results of applying Libertinism economic principles to our economy result in less liberty for most of the population of the country.

Just another demonstration of how Liberationism is a logically inconsistent and failed idea.
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Post by TravelinMan 2023-06-16, 09:32

Trapper Gus wrote:
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You know that Libertarians are probably the most pro-LGBTQxyz political group in existence, right?

I know that the logical, and now demonstratable real world, results of applying Libertinism economic principles to our economy result in less liberty for most of the population of the country.

Just another demonstration of how Liberationism is a logically inconsistent and failed idea.

Yes, supporting people regardless of whom they love or how they identify is a "failed idea."

Look, Traps. It appears from multiple posts this morning you want to spend the day attacking Libertarians. And that's fine. If that's what's gonna get you through it, may the Lord bless you and keep you. But don't suggest that the Libertarians are somehow anti-LBGTQ. That's just blatantly dumb. The Republicans have the market cornered on that. Let's not give anyone else credit for that bullshit.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-06-16, 09:55

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

I know that the logical, and now demonstratable real world, results of applying Libertinism economic principles to our economy result in less liberty for most of the population of the country.

Just another demonstration of how Liberationism is a logically inconsistent and failed idea.

Yes, supporting people regardless of whom they love or how they identify is a "failed idea."  

Look, Traps.  It appears from multiple posts this morning you want to spend the day attacking Libertarians.  And that's fine.  If that's what's gonna get you through it, may the Lord bless you and keep you.  But don't suggest that the Libertarians are somehow anti-LBGTQ.  That's just blatantly dumb.  The Republicans have the market cornered on that.  Let's not give anyone else credit for that bullshit.

A bunch of Libertarian owners of that TeeVee station are.

You can pick and choose which bits of Libertarian thought you agree with and which ones you don't, there are parts of what they say that make sense, but let me attack the inconsistencies of Libertarians as a whole, because as a whole it is a very stupid idea.
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Post by TravelinMan 2023-06-16, 10:07

Trapper Gus wrote:
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Yes, supporting people regardless of whom they love or how they identify is a "failed idea."  

Look, Traps.  It appears from multiple posts this morning you want to spend the day attacking Libertarians.  And that's fine.  If that's what's gonna get you through it, may the Lord bless you and keep you.  But don't suggest that the Libertarians are somehow anti-LBGTQ.  That's just blatantly dumb.  The Republicans have the market cornered on that.  Let's not give anyone else credit for that bullshit.

A bunch of Libertarian owners of that TeeVee station are.

You can pick and choose which bits of Libertarian thought you agree with and which ones you don't, there are parts of what they say that make sense, but let me attack the inconsistencies of Libertarians as a whole, because as a whole it is a very stupid idea.

Prove your statement.

Yes, there are inconsistencies in the Libertarian platform. No one is arguing with you on that. But LGBTQ rights are not one of those inconsistencies. Don't be deceitful in your posts just because you don't like something.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-06-16, 10:39

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

A bunch of Libertarian owners of that TeeVee station are.

You can pick and choose which bits of Libertarian thought you agree with and which ones you don't, there are parts of what they say that make sense, but let me attack the inconsistencies of Libertarians as a whole, because as a whole it is a very stupid idea.

Prove your statement.

Yes, there are inconsistencies in the Libertarian platform.  No one is arguing with you on that.  But LGBTQ rights are not one of those inconsistencies.  Don't be deceitful in your posts just because you don't like something.

They want lower taxes for themselves and more freedom to own more TeeVee stations.  Pure Libertarian economic values.  Insert something about ducks here.

People like you are being toyed with by the owners of the Libertarian brand. Much like how No Lables is toying with those who might vote for them and put Trump back in office.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2023-06-16, 10:47

Another attempted thread hijacking by TraveinMan.

The thread up is about NexStar’s WOOD TV8’s News Director Stanton Tang and assistant News Director Amy Fox sending out a memo indicating there were too many Pride stories in the news casts reminding their department that West MI is a “Conservative community”.

NexStar has done a great job of taking the local out of WOODTV8 website and has changed WGN to cable’s News Nation. News Nation has moved from the center to right since its inception which has turned out to be a good business move.

We have seen Sinclair push it’s corporate agenda to its local affiliates. Maybe Tang and Fox pushed too hard without NexStar’s okay.

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Post by TravelinMan 2023-06-16, 11:00

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Prove your statement.

Yes, there are inconsistencies in the Libertarian platform.  No one is arguing with you on that.  But LGBTQ rights are not one of those inconsistencies.  Don't be deceitful in your posts just because you don't like something.

They want lower taxes for themselves and more freedom to own more TeeVee stations.  Pure Libertarian economic values.  Insert something about ducks here.

People like you are being toyed with by the owners of the Libertarian brand. Much like how No Lables is toying with those who might vote for them and put Trump back in office.

People like you are idiots.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-06-16, 11:02

GRR Spartan wrote:Another attempted thread hijacking by TraveinMan.

The thread up is about NexStar’s WOOD TV8’s News Director Stanton Tang and assistant News Director Amy Fox sending out a memo indicating there were too many Pride stories in the news casts reminding their department that West MI is a “Conservative community”.

NexStar has done a great job of taking the local out of WOODTV8 website and has changed WGN to cable’s News Nation. News Nation has moved from the center to right since its inception which has turned out to be a good business move.

We have seen Sinclair push it’s corporate agenda to its local affiliates. Maybe Tang and Fox pushed too hard without NexStar’s okay.

The TV8

This is happening all over the country, This station is just a symptom of the takeover of news by the people who want to.control the country via propaganda.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-06-16, 11:05

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

They want lower taxes for themselves and more freedom to own more TeeVee stations.  Pure Libertarian economic values.  Insert something about ducks here.

People like you are being toyed with by the owners of the Libertarian brand.  Much like how No Lables is toying with those who might vote for them and put Trump back in office.

People like you are idiots.

People who are as unaware of what is being done to them by people with the power to do so are unable to think critically enough to overcome the propaganda they are being fed.

Libertarians are one such group of people.
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Post by Motown Spartan 2023-06-16, 11:10

Let's not pretend Libertarians care about social issues. They really only care about fiscal issues and not being treaded upon. Their care for social issues ends at their interest in any social issue.
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Post by TravelinMan 2023-06-16, 13:21

Motown Spartan wrote:Let's not pretend Libertarians care about social issues. They really only care about fiscal issues and not being treaded upon. Their care for social issues ends at their interest in any social issue.

You wouldn’t know what a Libertarian was if one slapped you on the ass and called you Shirley.
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Post by Motown Spartan 2023-06-16, 16:54

TravelinMan wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:Let's not pretend Libertarians care about social issues. They really only care about fiscal issues and not being treaded upon. Their care for social issues ends at their interest in any social issue.

You wouldn’t know what a Libertarian was if one slapped you on the ass and called you Shirley.

That would be gay and libertarians only pretend to like gays.
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Post by tGreenWay 2023-06-16, 17:11

GRR Spartan wrote:Another attempted thread hijacking by TraveinMan.

The thread up is about NexStar’s WOOD TV8’s News Director Stanton Tang and assistant News Director Amy Fox sending out a memo indicating there were too many Pride stories in the news casts reminding their department that West MI is a “Conservative community”.

NexStar has done a great job of taking the local out of WOODTV8 website and has changed WGN to cable’s News Nation. News Nation has moved from the center to right since its inception which has turned out to be a good business move.

We have seen Sinclair push it’s corporate agenda to its local affiliates. Maybe Tang and Fox pushed too hard without NexStar’s okay.

The TV8



NextStar is known for being incredibly cheap. That’s why their stations and websites decline in quality. What NextStar has done to The Hill is infuriating.

As for WOOD and this memo, believe me when I tell you this was all Stanton. The only reason Amy Fox is mentioned is because he had her put out the memo like a good #2 does. If she was ND, this never would’ve happened. I’m happy but not surprised to see the newsroom told Stanton to fuck off.
Source: I have multiple friends at the station and have either spoken directly with or communicated via email.
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Post by tGreenWay 2023-06-16, 18:02

p.s. I also asked one friend if this was a memo that came down from Corporate, and the answer was no—this was all Stanton. I was curious because our local CBS affiliate is also owned by NextStar.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2023-06-16, 18:25

tGreenWay wrote:p.s.  I also asked one friend if this was a memo that came down from Corporate, and the answer was no—this was all Stanton. I was curious because our local CBS affiliate is also owned by NextStar.

So some local asshole, or is he trying to move up in corporate management?


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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2023-06-16, 19:52

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

These conservative assholes are out of control and definitely don't believe in the ideals of the United States.  Sorry to yank TM's chain but this is where the worship of the market as a God and Libertarianism takes us.

You know that Libertarians are probably the most pro-LGBTQxyz political group in existence, right?
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TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

They want lower taxes for themselves and more freedom to own more TeeVee stations.  Pure Libertarian economic values.  Insert something about ducks here.

People like you are being toyed with by the owners of the Libertarian brand. Much like how No Lables is toying with those who might vote for them and put Trump back in office.

People like you are idiots.

Yet you aren't judgmental, right Bredo?
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Motown Spartan wrote:Let's not pretend Libertarians care about social issues. They really only care about fiscal issues and not being treaded upon. Their care for social issues ends at their interest in any social issue.
they mock people who pursue their passion while belittling folks who work at WalMart.

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but that's not who I care to hang out with.
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Motown Spartan wrote:Let's not pretend Libertarians care about social issues. They really only care about fiscal issues and not being treaded upon. Their care for social issues ends at their interest in any social issue.
they mock people who pursue their passion while belittling folks who work at WalMart.

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but that's not who I care to hang out with.

As long as libertarian Bredo is blessed, fuck everyone else
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People like you are idiots.

Yet you aren't judgmental, right Bredo?

To be fair, I’ve already judged you.
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Yet you aren't judgmental, right Bredo?

To be fair, I’ve already judged you.

Whatever you say Bredo
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Motown Spartan wrote:Let's not pretend Libertarians care about social issues. They really only care about fiscal issues and not being treaded upon. Their care for social issues ends at their interest in any social issue.
they mock people who pursue their passion while belittling folks who work at WalMart.

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but that's not who I care to hang out with.

Does that mean you’re a “No” for the BBQ on Sunday?
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To be fair, I’ve already judged you.

Whatever you say Bredo

Got proof of your claims? I’m still waiting…
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Whatever you say Bredo

Got proof of your claims? I’m still waiting…

Don't be a Nancy Bredo. Own it.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2023-06-16, 23:40

Update:

Michele DeSelms who posted her objections to the memo on Twitter wasn’t on the air on Friday.

Friday’s 7:00 pm news show was hosted by Brian Stirling, the 6 & 11 anchor. The day news broke about the memo, Thursday, Susan Shaw the co-anchor with Stirling was n at 7.

Wonder if Stanton Tang and/or DeSelms will be around for the beginning of the 3rd quarter.
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https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2023/06/staff-push-back-after-west-michigan-tv-station-seeks-to-scale-back-lgbtq-pride-coverage.html

GRAND RAPIDS, MI – Staff at WOOD TV8 and the station’s parent company are pushing back after the station’s news leadership earlier this week directed a scale back of LGBTQ Pride month event coverage to cow to unhappy viewers.

In the leaked memo to staff from WOOD TV’s assistant news director, newsroom leadership also told staff that if they are covering Pride events to “consider how to make the story balanced and get both sides of the issues.”

WOOD TV Executive Producer Luke Stier wrote on Twitter that the memo was met with “immediate pushback” from the newsroom and that those involved in the memo have been removed from discussions around Pride month coverage.

“The guidance is not being followed,” Stier wrote. “The only two people involved in its creation have been removed from any discussions surrounding WOOD TV Pride coverage as our corporation conducts a thorough investigation.”

A spokesperson for Nexstar Media Group, the corporate parent of WOOD TV, issued an apology Thursday, June 15, and said the memo isn’t consistent with the company’s values.
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duffy munn wrote:
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Got proof of your claims? I’m still waiting…

Don't be a Nancy Bredo. Own it.

Yeah. That's what I thought.

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TravelinMan wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Don't be a Nancy Bredo. Own it.

Yeah.  That's what I thought.  

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In this case it looks like it was just a couple of Libertarians leaning local employees, not like a number of the major networks who are all in on these Libertarian, to some Libertarians, ideas.
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Trapper Gus wrote:
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Yeah.  That's what I thought.  


In this case it looks like it was just a couple of Libertarians leaning local employees, not like a number of the major networks who are all in on these Libertarian, to some Libertarians, ideas.

That pic was for duffy and his unfounded accusations. I couldn't care less about some po dunk TV station. And from what I know about the area, the viewers are probably in agreement with the request. Bunch of right wing racist homophobes up in that side of the state.
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The stew is getting thicker. In the link, TV8’s recently name Chief Meteorologist Ellen Bacca spoke out on Twitter in no uncertain terms at the end of the link.

Might be able to gloss over letting 7:00 anchor Michele DeSelms go since she’s relatively new to TV8 after years at the local Fox affiliate but Ellen Bacca speaking out makes things tougher for at least the news director.

NexStar can move him or put the news Director out to pasture but firing the Chief Meteorolgist, the first woman in West MI to have that title would be a very bad lookp

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2023/06/staff-push-back-after-west-michigan-tv-station-seeks-to-scale-back-lgbtq-pride-coverage.html
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GRR Spartan wrote:The stew is getting thicker. In the link, TV8’s recently name Chief Meteorologist Ellen Bacca spoke out on Twitter in no uncertain terms at the end of the link.

Might be able to gloss over letting 7:00 anchor Michele DeSelms go since she’s relatively new to TV8 after years at the local Fox affiliate but Ellen Bacca speaking out makes things tougher for at least the news director.

NexStar can move him or put the news Director out to pasture but firing the Chief Meteorolgist, the first woman in West MI to have that title would be a very bad lookp

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2023/06/staff-push-back-after-west-michigan-tv-station-seeks-to-scale-back-lgbtq-pride-coverage.html



I haven’t talked to any friends in two days, so I can’t confirm what you’re saying. Where did you see that Deselms has been fired?
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tGreenWay wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:The stew is getting thicker. In the link, TV8’s recently name Chief Meteorologist Ellen Bacca spoke out on Twitter in no uncertain terms at the end of the link.

Might be able to gloss over letting 7:00 anchor Michele DeSelms go since she’s relatively new to TV8 after years at the local Fox affiliate but Ellen Bacca speaking out makes things tougher for at least the news director.

NexStar can move him or put the news Director out to pasture but firing the Chief Meteorolgist, the first woman in West MI to have that title would be a very bad lookp

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2023/06/staff-push-back-after-west-michigan-tv-station-seeks-to-scale-back-lgbtq-pride-coverage.html



I haven’t talked to any friends in two days, so I can’t confirm what you’re saying. Where did you see that Deselms has been fired?

I’m at the residence inn in GR. Ima watch that thing tonight. By the way, you haven’t talked to friends in 50 years you have no friends. Let’s keep this real.
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I haven’t talked to any friends in two days, so I can’t confirm what you’re saying. Where did you see that Deselms has been fired?

I’m at the residence inn in GR. Ima watch that thing tonight. By the way, you haven’t talked to friends in 50 years you have no friends. Let’s keep this real.


Even fifty years ago, at age 10, my only friends were my dog and the kid whose parents owned the local Dairy Queen, and my dog only faked liking me because she wanted the table scraps I dropped on the floor.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2023-06-17, 20:55

tGreenWay wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:The stew is getting thicker. In the link, TV8’s recently name Chief Meteorologist Ellen Bacca spoke out on Twitter in no uncertain terms at the end of the link.

Might be able to gloss over letting 7:00 anchor Michele DeSelms go since she’s relatively new to TV8 after years at the local Fox affiliate but Ellen Bacca speaking out makes things tougher for at least the news director.

NexStar can move him or put the news Director out to pasture but firing the Chief Meteorolgist, the first woman in West MI to have that title would be a very bad lookp

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2023/06/staff-push-back-after-west-michigan-tv-station-seeks-to-scale-back-lgbtq-pride-coverage.html



I haven’t talked to any friends in two days, so I can’t confirm what you’re saying. Where did you see that Deselms has been fired?

DeSelms' 7:00 anchor spot was replaced by Susan Shaw on Thursday and Brian Sterling on Friday.

When the story broke, DeSelms was the first on air employee to speak out and she was the only one off the air. No announcement or explanations.

Didn't say she was fired. When this hit the fan, DeSelms was the first quoted and she was off the air. Now Ellen Bacca's tweet has been published. Worse for NexStar is the story is getting picked up by other media outside MI.

I used to run into Henry Erb at a local lunch spot and knew the late Barton Deiters. In 50+ years at TV8 he's seen a lot of stuff. I asked him about the very occasional anchor shuffles and how weather people could become fixtures. Erb said although the anchors get treated well, the viewers latch on to on air weather people.

That's why I think Bacca speaking out is a big deal.
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