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Post by Robert J Sakimano 15/03/24, 12:06 pm

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you can attack court decisions and the Constitution all you want.

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For clarification, I have questioned ("attacked"?) court decisions but not the Constitution.

But feel free to continue putting words in my mouth, I find it entertaining.
I could've sworn I heard somewhere once that the courts and the United States judicial system are rooted in the Constitution. tOfficial Trial Thread..  - Page 6 2599972566

now, I ain't real smart.. just a kid who grew up in the hollers of Appalachia.. but I believe I heard that somewhere.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 15/03/24, 12:07 pm

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dude, he doesn't pay his own employees.. you think he's gonna pay the money owed to the woman he raped?


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Bob, check with your wife, but I'm pretty sure that a civil judgement can be enforced via wage and asset garnishment.   Again let me know when the "victim" sees any money from Trump
a) I generally don't talk work with my wife.. it goes way over my head.

b) yes, the woman your christian hero raped will not see a dime.

Not sure why you can't process that, but if you want me to repeat it again, lemme know. I'm good at bored repetition (works wonders for my cycling and running career).

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Post by Zurn 16/03/24, 11:55 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I could've sworn I heard somewhere once that the courts and the United States judicial system are rooted in the Constitution

So is the Presidency. I'm quite certain that you have questioned a decision made by a president. Was that an attack on the Constitution and democracy itself?
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Post by GRR Spartan 16/03/24, 01:43 pm

Zurn is polishing his boots and getting his Black Shirt pressed for the next attack on Democracy.

Zurn is a troll. Trump vermin.
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Post by kingstonlake 16/03/24, 02:08 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:Zurn is polishing his boots and getting his Black Shirt pressed for the next attack on Democracy.

Zurn is a troll. Trump vermin.

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Post by Trapper Gus 16/03/24, 08:49 pm

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Assuming he loses the appeals, a very reasonable assumption

Is it ???

After all the unforced errors by his lawyers and his own actions in court while the judge in the case was extremely forgiving of his bad court room behavior its unlikely he has much to appeal.

I had read somewhere that his lawyer forgot to make the proper motions in court that would allow an appeal, but that might have been for his fraud case.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 16/03/24, 10:42 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:Zurn is polishing his boots and getting his Black Shirt pressed for the next attack on Democracy.

Zurn is a troll. Trump vermin.
he's fun to toy with and to expose.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 16/03/24, 10:51 pm

Zurn wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:I could've sworn I heard somewhere once that the courts and the United States judicial system are rooted in the Constitution

So is the Presidency.  I'm quite certain that you have questioned a decision made by a president.    Was that an attack on the Constitution and democracy itself?

Do what you want and whatever helps you sleep night with regard to your religious and political ideaology, dude, but minimizing rape, a rape victim and denigrating the system that found her rapist guilty isn't a good look.

And, yes, I realize that my suggestion won't influence you and your ilk. It is who y'all are.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 16/03/24, 11:07 pm

I'm quite certain that you have questioned a decision made by a president. Was that an attack on the Constitution an
Zurn wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:I could've sworn I heard somewhere once that the courts and the United States judicial system are rooted in the Constitution

So is the Presidency. I'm quite certain that you have questioned a decision made by a president. Was that an attack on the Constitution and democracy itself?

Toilet wisdom from Zurn
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Post by Trapper Gus 17/03/24, 07:33 am

sεяεηιτλ wrote:
I'm quite certain that you have questioned a decision made by a president. Was that an attack on the Constitution an
Zurn wrote:

So is the Presidency.  I'm quite certain that you have questioned a decision made by a president.    Was that an attack on the Constitution and democracy itself?

Toilet wisdom from Zurn

His racist logic (aka bivalued "black & white" value system) never stops being stupid.

Bob's sarcastic send ups of it always trigger him.
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Post by Zurn 17/03/24, 01:43 pm

GRR Spartan wrote:Zurn is polishing his boots and getting his Black Shirt pressed for the next attack on Democracy.


I do try to look my best when voting. Shiny shoes and a stylish black shirt - very Scandinavian. Didn't realize voting for RFK, Jr, will be an attack on democracy.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 18/03/24, 11:11 am

bad news for the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist.

dear 'pro-life' libertarians/republicans.. keep sending your money, even if jury decisions aren't really proof of anything.. your christian hero and convicted rapist needs your support now more than ever.

Trump is unable to make $464 million bond in civil fraud case, his lawyers tell court

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 18/03/24, 11:15 am

also....(mainstream media quote below)

CNN — Former President Donald Trump can’t find an insurance company to underwrite his bond to cover the massive judgment against him in the New York attorney general’s civil fraud case, his lawyers told a New York appeals court.

Trump’s attorneys said he has approached 30 underwriters to back the bond, which is due by the end of this month.

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Post by Trapper Gus 18/03/24, 11:49 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:bad news for the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist.

dear 'pro-life' libertarians/republicans.. keep sending your money, even if jury decisions aren't really proof of anything.. your christian hero and convicted rapist needs your support now more than ever.

Trump is unable to make $464 million bond in civil fraud case, his lawyers tell court

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I hear there is a resort in Florida that he owns that is easily worth that...

If he can't post bond does he have to go to jail?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 18/03/24, 12:22 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:bad news for the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist.

dear 'pro-life' libertarians/republicans.. keep sending your money, even if jury decisions aren't really proof of anything.. your christian hero and convicted rapist needs your support now more than ever.



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I hear there is a resort in Florida that he owns that is easily worth that...

If he can't post bond does he have to go to jail?
I don't know.. I just find the whole thing funny.

(in a pathetic, 'church goin'-America is so fucked up' sort of way.
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Post by kingstonlake 18/03/24, 12:53 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:bad news for the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist.

dear 'pro-life' libertarians/republicans.. keep sending your money, even if jury decisions aren't really proof of anything.. your christian hero and convicted rapist needs your support now more than ever.



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I hear there is a resort in Florida that he owns that is easily worth that...

If he can't post bond does he have to go to jail?

I think he loses the right to appeal or maybe a very limited appeal?
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Post by kingstonlake 18/03/24, 12:54 pm

Lawyers talk. You’re going to lose your money backing this guy. I’d have to believe anyone representing him now knows they aren’t getting paid. They’re just doing it for the pub and clout for potential clients that will pay.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 18/03/24, 01:20 pm

What the fuck is with the duck face lawyer he totes around. B lost a bet or something?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 18/03/24, 01:36 pm

AvgMSUJoe wrote:What the fuck is with the duck face lawyer he totes around. B lost a bet or something?
I think it's pretty safe to say he's scraping the bottom of the barrel with his latest legal team.

think about it, Michael Cohen - as bad as he was at his job - was before two lost popular votes, two impeachments, one paying off of a porn star, rape convictions, a violent insurrection and 91 felony charges.   tOfficial Trial Thread..  - Page 6 502811600  tOfficial Trial Thread..  - Page 6 502811600

his most recent legal representation has a lot of plastic surgery bills to pay and it's hard to do that with a client who they know will never pay them.
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Post by Zurn 18/03/24, 03:05 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:

I hear there is a resort in Florida that he owns that is easily worth that...

If he can't post bond does he have to go to jail?

I thought NY was going to get the money for the judgement in the case claiming Trump overvalued his properties by garnishing them and selling them for the price Trump said they were worth?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 18/03/24, 03:44 pm

Zurn wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

I hear there is a resort in Florida that he owns that is easily worth that...

If he can't post bond does he have to go to jail?

I thought NY was going to get the money for the judgement in the case claiming Trump overvalued his properties by garnishing them and selling them for the price Trump said they were worth?
I don't know how it works, but I doubt any of his truck stop and massage parlor properties are worth $464 million.

your man is broke, dude - literally, all he has are his well-worn bibles, his drug addictions and his collection of various sexually transmitted diseases.

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Post by GRR Spartan 18/03/24, 06:15 pm

Trump isn’t the sure thing some of his supporters think unless we see the Saudi Royal family, Elon Musk or Miriam Adelson whose net worth is 31.7B. But she’s alread sending Israel millions to prop up Netanyahu.
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Post by DWags 18/03/24, 06:22 pm

So, Trumps not a billionaire? I’m shocked. How are the tennis shoe sales doing.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 18/03/24, 06:47 pm

DWags wrote:So, Trumps not a billionaire? I’m shocked. How are the tennis shoe sales doing.
It's weird that a guy who filed for bankruptcy 6 times and would screw up a one car funeral is broke.

On the upside, the collection jar by the cash register at the Mio Nip-n-Sip is overflowing with donations.


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Post by Trapper Gus 18/03/24, 08:48 pm

Zurn wrote:
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I hear there is a resort in Florida that he owns that is easily worth that...

If he can't post bond does he have to go to jail?

I thought NY was going to get the money for the judgement in the case claiming Trump overvalued his properties by garnishing them and selling them for the price Trump said they were worth?

They keep taking his properties and selling until they get the money or run out of properties, whichever comes first.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 18/03/24, 11:01 pm

mp can’t find an insurance company to underwrite his bond to cover the massive judgment against him in the New

He apparently thinks someone is required to take of this for him so he doesn't have to sell a bunch of properties. That poor poor thing
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 18/03/24, 11:04 pm

Zurn wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

I hear there is a resort in Florida that he owns that is easily worth that...

If he can't post bond does he have to go to jail?

I thought NY was going to get the money for the judgement in the case claiming Trump overvalued his properties by garnishing them and selling them for the price Trump said they were worth?  

It would be pretty funny if they seized his properties to sell and it turned out they were worth near what he said.

The collective MAGAs could make it so, pool all their moneys to over pay for the properties, save their savior.
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Post by gomersbro 19/03/24, 01:02 am

Jared is sitting on $2B from the Saudis they gave him for "investment"; purposes. I have been waiting for that to be the source of the bail money.
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Post by Trapper Gus 19/03/24, 07:37 am

sεяεηιτλ wrote:
mp can’t find an insurance company to underwrite his bond to cover the massive judgment against him in the New

He apparently thinks someone is required to take of this for him so he doesn't have to sell a bunch of properties. That poor poor thing

According to Trump University training you should always be using "other people's money"
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 19/03/24, 07:46 am

more bad news for the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist.

it's also bad news for the christian patriots who believe that court decisions, the US judicial system and the Constitution don't really mean anything..

get ready to minimize your christian hero's porn star girlfriend and her testimony, along with the testimony of his other porn star girl friend and former scumbag attorney.


A New York judge on Monday denied Donald Trump's bid to keep his former lawyer Michael Cohen and adult film star Stormy Daniels from testifying in the former president's criminal trial related to a 2016 hush money payment.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 19/03/24, 08:35 am

gomersbro wrote:Jared is sitting on $2B from the Saudis they gave him for "investment"; purposes. I have been waiting for that to be the source of the bail money.
I saw somewhere that there is a potential windfall in Truth social if that ever makes it public. Like billions.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 19/03/24, 11:08 am

the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist believes that court decisions aren't really proof of anything.

Former President Trump sued ABC News and George Stephanopoulos on Monday, alleging defamation over the anchor’s questioning of Rep. Nancy Mace (R-S.C.) about her endorsement of Trump.

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Post by Trapper Gus 19/03/24, 11:21 am

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
gomersbro wrote:Jared is sitting on $2B from the Saudis they gave him for "investment"; purposes. I have been waiting for that to be the source of the bail money.
I saw somewhere that there is a potential windfall in Truth social if that ever makes it public. Like billions.

Just like everything else Trump.has mortgaged up.to the hilt?
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Post by DWags 19/03/24, 12:46 pm

From mark Cuban

Trump couldn’t pay. But he thinks most billionaires couldn’t. Know why? Because trumps low interest policies.


“ Ted, you know I'm no supporter of Trump. That's for damn sure.

How anyone can vote for someone who has so many of his executive employees turn on him, and, say he is incompetent is beyond me.

But you are wrong on this topic Ted.

Net worth is completely different than cash in the bank.
We were in a zero interest rate environment for a long, long time. So keeping cash in the bank or even money markets was dumb. In fact searching for yield is what killed small banks last year.

Also dumb was keeping interest rates that low for that long. Something Trump demanded more of.

So you can argue that trump put himself in this situation by making sure that the only way to grow his net worth was non cash investments.

You can also argue Trump sucked at growing his net worth which led to him putting himself in this position by lying to banks about his assets. There is only one reason to lie on a loan application - you have to.

On a more macro basis Ted. Even if rates were along a long term trend line for the past ten years, few people are keeping more than 45 percent of their assets in liquid assets.

And as far as the bond companies Trump's assets are mostly interests in commercial real estate and foreign assets. No bond company is loaning against them in this commercial real estate market, if ever .”
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Post by Motown Spartan 19/03/24, 01:27 pm

DWags wrote:From mark Cuban

Trump couldn’t pay. But he thinks most billionaires couldn’t. Know why? Because trumps low interest policies.


“ Ted, you know I'm no supporter of Trump. That's for damn sure.

How anyone can vote for someone who has so many of his executive employees turn on him, and, say he is incompetent is beyond me.

But you are wrong on this topic Ted.

Net worth is completely different than cash in the bank.
We were in a zero interest rate environment for a long, long time. So keeping cash in the bank or even money markets was dumb. In fact searching for yield is what killed small banks last year.

Also dumb was keeping interest rates that low for that long. Something Trump demanded more of.

So you can argue that trump put himself in this situation by making sure that the only way to grow his net worth was non cash investments.

You can also argue Trump sucked at growing his net worth which led to him putting himself in this position by lying to banks about his assets. There is only one reason to lie on a loan application - you have to.

On a more macro basis Ted. Even if rates were along a long term trend line for the past ten years, few people are keeping more than 45 percent of their assets in liquid assets.

And as far as the bond companies Trump's assets are mostly interests in commercial real estate and foreign assets. No bond company is loaning against them in this commercial real estate market, if ever .”

Most billionaires have a metric fuck ton of marketable securities that they borrow against to generate their cash flow. Trump does not have that.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 19/03/24, 01:40 pm

you know who has 464 million dollars?
























































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Post by Floyd Robertson 19/03/24, 01:46 pm

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Post by Motown Spartan 19/03/24, 01:46 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:you know who has 464 million dollars?
























































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Would bang.
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Post by kingstonlake 19/03/24, 02:12 pm

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DWags wrote:From mark Cuban

Trump couldn’t pay.  But he thinks most billionaires couldn’t. Know why?   Because trumps low interest policies.


“ Ted, you know I'm no supporter of Trump. That's for damn sure.

How anyone can vote for someone who has so many of his executive employees turn on him,  and,  say he is incompetent is beyond me.

But you are wrong on this topic Ted.

Net worth is completely different than cash in the bank.
We were in a zero interest rate environment for a long, long time. So keeping cash in the bank or even money markets was dumb. In fact searching for yield is what killed small banks last year.

Also dumb  was keeping interest rates that low for that long. Something Trump demanded more of.

So you can argue that trump put himself in this situation by making sure that the only way to grow his net worth was non cash investments.

You can also argue Trump sucked at growing his net worth which led to him putting  himself in this position by lying to banks about his assets.  There is  only one reason to lie on a loan application  - you have to.  

On a more macro basis Ted.  Even if rates were along a long term trend line for the past ten years, few people are  keeping more than 45 percent of their assets in liquid assets.

And as far as the bond companies Trump's assets are mostly interests in commercial real estate and foreign assets.  No bond company is loaning against them in this commercial real estate market, if ever .”

Most billionaires have a metric fuck ton of marketable securities that they borrow against to generate their cash flow. Trump does not have that.

No way! You mean he’s a fake billionaire? Next thing you’re going to tell me is guys like Warren Buffett don’t sell ties, steaks, water, and “universities” to amass their fortunes.
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Post by Jake from State Farm 20/03/24, 08:13 am

How fuct is Trump? He's probably going to have to start dumping real estate or it's going to be taken to satisfy the judgement. He's more than likely been taking depreciation on his buildings to lower his taxes but once those are sold or taken he either has to buy a replacement or he's on the hook for the taxes that he avoided with the depreciation. There's no way that banks are going to finance any new buildings for him with the likelihood that they will end up being the property of New York State. It would be wonderful if the only way for that to be stopped would be another Trump bankruptcy prior to the election.
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