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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-03-20, 08:36

Jake from State Farm wrote:How fuct is Trump? He's probably going to have to start dumping real estate or it's going to be taken to satisfy the judgement. He's more than likely been taking depreciation on his buildings to lower his taxes but once those are sold or taken he either has to buy a replacement or he's on the hook for the taxes that he avoided with the depreciation. There's no way that banks are going to finance any new buildings for him with the likelihood that they will end up being the property of New York State. It would be wonderful if the only way for that to be stopped would be another Trump bankruptcy prior to the election.
he could open up the Mar-O-Lago Truck Stop and Massage Parlor as a church.. and all the christians could pay, like, an admissions fee.

maybe get Kid Rock to sing the national anthem prior to to the sermon.

surely the patriotic republican/libertarian christians would flock to see their Messiah and donate their hard-earned money to his cause. Maybe they could hold some Sunday school lessons on the Constitution, the court system, the US judiciary - and illustrate how they mean absolutely nothing, thereby inspiring the flock to donate even more money to help pay their rapist hero's legal fines.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-03-20, 11:35

Meanwhile, in another Trump case the judge is making up her own law to protect him...

The MAGA-friendly federal judge who keeps siding with Donald Trump in his Mar-a-Lago classified records case has forced prosecutors to make a stark choice: allow jurors to see a huge trove of national secrets or let him go.

U.S. District Judge Aileen M. Cannon’s ultimatum Monday night came as a surprise twist in what could have been a simple order; one merely asking federal prosecutors and Trump’s lawyers for proposed jury instructions at the upcoming trial.

But as she has done repeatedly, Cannon used this otherwise innocuous legal step as yet another way to swing the case wildly in favor of the man who appointed her while he was president.

Department of Justice Special Counsel Jack Smith must now choose whether to allow jurors at the upcoming criminal trial to peruse through the many classified records found at the former president’s South Florida mansion or give jurors instructions that would effectively order them to acquit him.

Alternatively, Smith could appeal to the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals, where more experienced judges have already overturned Cannon and reined her in. But doing that will only further delay a trial that’s at least three months behind schedule, entirely by the judge’s own design. (She froze the investigation and tried to slow-roll document review until the appellate court forced her to stop.)


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mar-a-lago-judge-s-stark-ruling-jury-sees-secret-files-or-trump-wins/ar-BB1k81wp?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=d04108b788054109b5551b10b57eb4ca&ei=17
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-03-20, 12:55

Trapper Gus wrote:Meanwhile, in another Trump case the judge is making up her own law to protect him...

The MAGA-friendly federal judge who keeps siding with Donald Trump in his Mar-a-Lago classified records case has forced prosecutors to make a stark choice: allow jurors to see a huge trove of national secrets or let him go.

U.S. District Judge Aileen M. Cannon’s ultimatum Monday night came as a surprise twist in what could have been a simple order; one merely asking federal prosecutors and Trump’s lawyers for proposed jury instructions at the upcoming trial.

But as she has done repeatedly, Cannon used this otherwise innocuous legal step as yet another way to swing the case wildly in favor of the man who appointed her while he was president.

Department of Justice Special Counsel Jack Smith must now choose whether to allow jurors at the upcoming criminal trial to peruse through the many classified records found at the former president’s South Florida mansion or give jurors instructions that would effectively order them to acquit him.

Alternatively, Smith could appeal to the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals, where more experienced judges have already overturned Cannon and reined her in. But doing that will only further delay a trial that’s at least three months behind schedule, entirely by the judge’s own design. (She froze the investigation and tried to slow-roll document review until the appellate court forced her to stop.)


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mar-a-lago-judge-s-stark-ruling-jury-sees-secret-files-or-trump-wins/ar-BB1k81wp?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=d04108b788054109b5551b10b57eb4ca&ei=17
the fact that the republican/libertarian nominee for the "rule of law" and "America first" party has multiple trials going on just illustrates how fucked up christianity and their party is.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-03-21, 13:45

Bad news for the racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator and convicted rapist and his followers who think the US Judicial System doesn't really prove anything.

New York Attorney General takes initial step to prepare to seize Trump assets



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Post by Floyd Robertson 2024-03-22, 10:12

I have no idea how taking that dumpster fire Truth Social public is worth $3 billion. The SPAC behind it is based in Wuhan, China lol.

Donald Trump may be about to get $3 billion richer. But that likely won’t solve his cash crunch
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-03-22, 10:18

Floyd Robertson wrote:I have no idea how taking that dumpster fire Truth Social public is worth $3 billion. The SPAC behind it is based in Wuhan, China lol.

Donald Trump may be about to get $3 billion richer. But that likely won’t solve his cash crunch

This can only be seen as the Chinses government buying Trump's loyalty.

As the attached article points out, as a business deal on the economics it doesn't make any sense, just like Musk's purchase price for twitter was stupidly high. Looks like the uber-wealthy and foreign government are taking over big parts of social media in order to control what US voters hear & read.
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Post by Jake from State Farm 2024-03-25, 12:23

Welp, looks like Trump pulled another judge(s) out of his ass again.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-03-25, 12:27

Jake from State Farm wrote:Welp, looks like Trump pulled another judge(s) out of his ass again.
saw that the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist had his bond lowered to $175 million.

y'all who think that the US courts, the American judicial system and the Constitution don't mean anything, keep sending him your money.. it's working! tOfficial Trial Thread..  - Page 7 502811600
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-03-25, 13:53

the latest trial involving the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist is set to start on April 15th.

which trial is this, you may ask? Understandable, because our favorite christian has so many of them lined up.

this trial is the one involving his porn star girlfriend (I think he met her in bible study) and the hush money payments. A judge decided recently that his former attorney who arranged the payoff and one of his other girlfriends can testify, as well.

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Post by Zurn 2024-03-26, 08:29

Robert J Sakimano wrote: saw that the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist had his bond lowered to $175 million.

Been a good few days for Trump. His bond was lowered by a judge who believes in the Constitution (8th amendment) and his net worth increased by 3 billion dollars as the stock price of his new social media holding company went up 33% yesterday.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-03-26, 08:49

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Robert J Sakimano wrote: saw that the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist had his bond lowered to $175 million.

Been a good few days for Trump. His bond was lowered by a judge who believes in the Constitution (8th amendment) and his net worth increased by 3 billion dollars as the stock price of his new social media holding company went up 33% yesterday.

Usually "one" is not considered "a few" but you be you.

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Post by Zurn 2024-03-26, 08:58

Trapper Gus wrote:

Usually "one" is not considered "a few" but you be you.


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Okay, it was a helluva day for Trump. His bond was lowered by a judge who believes in the Constitution (8th amendment) and his net worth increased by 3 billion dollars.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-03-26, 09:25

Zurn wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Usually "one" is not considered "a few" but you be you.


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Okay, it was a helluva day for Trump.   His bond was lowered by a judge who believes in the Constitution (8th amendment) and his net worth increased by 3 billion dollars.  

If you want to be logically consistent you cannot use the value of stock as part of someone's net worth in one breath and then deny it can be taxed at that value in the next breath.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-03-26, 10:35

Zurn wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: saw that the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist had his bond lowered to $175 million.

Been a good few days for Trump.  His bond was lowered by a judge who believes in the Constitution (8th amendment) and his net worth increased by 3 billion dollars as the stock price of his new social media holding company went up 33% yesterday.  
congratulations to you and your MAGA pals.. your prayers are working!
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Post by Motown Spartan 2024-03-26, 10:50

Zurn wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: saw that the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist had his bond lowered to $175 million.

Been a good few days for Trump. His bond was lowered by a judge who believes in the Constitution (8th amendment) and his net worth increased by 3 billion dollars as the stock price of his new social media holding company went up 33% yesterday.

He’s been winning so much it’s just not notable when he actually wins!

Oh wait…this is notable for a reason.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-03-26, 10:53

Motown Spartan wrote:
Zurn wrote:

Been a good few days for Trump.  His bond was lowered by a judge who believes in the Constitution (8th amendment) and his net worth increased by 3 billion dollars as the stock price of his new social media holding company went up 33% yesterday.  

He’s been winning so much it’s just not notable when he actually wins!

Oh wait…this is notable for a reason.
it's a fucked up world when people rally behind a convicted rapist simply because of their political and religious ideology.

it's a reminder, though, that those people do exist and makes it clear who to steer clear of, who to keep our families away from. So that has value.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-03-26, 13:11

One of the reasons the appealt judges decided that Trump could post a lesser bond is that NY already has liens on his NY property which in theory, NY's not Trump's valuations, are more than enough for the settlement.

As an aside, if NY takes the property is Trump still required to pay off the mortgages?
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-03-26, 13:19

Zurn wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Usually "one" is not considered "a few" but you be you.


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Okay, it was a helluva day for Trump. His bond was lowered by a judge who believes in the Constitution (8th amendment) and his net worth increased by 3 billion dollars.

Something smells in Denmark...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/3/26/2231636/-MAGA-cultists-bet-big-on-Trump-s-latest-grift
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2024-03-26, 15:10

Trapper Gus wrote:
Zurn wrote:

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Okay, it was a helluva day for Trump. His bond was lowered by a judge who believes in the Constitution (8th amendment) and his net worth increased by 3 billion dollars.

Something smells in Denmark...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/3/26/2231636/-MAGA-cultists-bet-big-on-Trump-s-latest-grift
Lolz, now the SEC can get involved when it crashes. Because it will crash.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2024-03-26, 16:04

Trump’s new social media company looks like a meme stock

Former President Donald Trump has clearly scored a financial windfall with his media startup, Trump Media & Technology Group, which trades under his initials, DJT. The firm's value soared when it went public on March 26, with the stock up more than 40% on the day. Trump's ownership stake could fetch more than $4 billion.

DJT is basically a meme stock, a kind of viral sensation that attracts investor interest beyond what the company’s fundamentals would ordinarily suggest. That obviously stems from Trump’s notoriety and the fervent belief some supporters have in his “make America great again” crusade.

The Trump company, which went public through a merger with Digital World Acquisition Corp. (DWAC), a special-purpose vehicle that’s been trading since 2021, has little revenue and lost $41 million during the last two years, according to S&P Capital IQ. Many buyers pushing up the stock price have been individual investors expressing loyalty to Trump himself.

But many investors are betting the Trump venture will flop. “There is huuuuge conviction (Trump pun intended) that there will be a significant decline in the stock price in the short term,” Ihor Dusaniwsky, managing director at S3 Partners, said in an email.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-03-26, 16:38

Floyd Robertson wrote:Trump’s new social media company looks like a meme stock

Former President Donald Trump has clearly scored a financial windfall with his media startup, Trump Media & Technology Group, which trades under his initials, DJT. The firm's value soared when it went public on March 26, with the stock up more than 40% on the day. Trump's ownership stake could fetch more than $4 billion.

DJT is basically a meme stock, a kind of viral sensation that attracts investor interest beyond what the company’s fundamentals would ordinarily suggest. That obviously stems from Trump’s notoriety and the fervent belief some supporters have in his “make America great again” crusade.

The Trump company, which went public through a merger with Digital World Acquisition Corp. (DWAC), a special-purpose vehicle that’s been trading since 2021, has little revenue and lost $41 million during the last two years, according to S&P Capital IQ. Many buyers pushing up the stock price have been individual investors expressing loyalty to Trump himself.

But many investors are betting the Trump venture will flop. “There is huuuuge conviction (Trump pun intended) that there will be a significant decline in the stock price in the short term,” Ihor Dusaniwsky, managing director at S3 Partners, said in an email.

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but.. last week he couldn't afford to pay his rape victim and this week the mainstream media is telling his followers that he's worth billions!! tOfficial Trial Thread..  - Page 7 502811600 tOfficial Trial Thread..  - Page 7 502811600
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-03-27, 08:04

Robert J Sakimano wrote:the latest trial involving the racist, bigoted christian sexual predator and convicted rapist is set to start on April 15th.

which trial is this, you may ask? Understandable, because our favorite christian has so many of them lined up.

this trial is the one involving his porn star girlfriend (I think he met her in bible study) and the hush money payments. A judge decided recently that his former attorney who arranged the payoff and one of his other girlfriends can testify, as well.

if you're a MAGA patriot who thinks that court decisions, the US judicial system and the Constitution don't really prove anything, no need to pay attention to it. We know who you are already.  tOfficial Trial Thread..  - Page 7 969504605

NEW YORK (AP) — A New York judge Tuesday issued a gag order barring Donald Trump from commenting publicly about witnesses, prosecutors, court staff and jurors in his upcoming hush-money criminal trial, citing the former president’s history of “threatening, inflammatory, denigrating” remarks about people involved in his legal cases.

Judge Juan M. Merchan’s decision, echoing a gag order in Trump’s Washington, D.C., election interference criminal case, came a day after he rejected the defense’s push to delay the Manhattan trial until summer and ordered it to begin April 15. If the date holds, it will be the first criminal trial of a former president.

“Given that the eve of trial is upon us, it is without question that the imminency of the risk of harm is now paramount,” Merchan wrote in a four-page decision granting the prosecution’s request for what it deemed a “narrowly tailored” gag order.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-03-28, 08:42

ATLANTA (AP) — The charges against former President Donald Trump in the Georgia election interference case seek to criminalize political speech and advocacy conduct that the First Amendment protects, his lawyers argued in a court filing challenging the indictment.

Fulton County Superior Court Judge Scott McAfee plans to hear arguments on that filing and on two pretrial motions filed by former Georgia Republican Party chair David Shafer during a hearing set for Thursday. Lawyers for Shafer argue that he acted legally when he and other state Republicans signed a certificate asserting that Trump won the 2020 presidential election in Georgia and declaring themselves the state’s “duly elected and qualified” electors.

McAfee is forging ahead with the case even as Trump and other defendants have said they plan to seek a ruling from the Georgia Court of Appeals to disqualify District Attorney Fani Willis. The judge earlier this month rejected defense efforts to remove Willis and her office over her romantic relationship with special prosecutor Nathan Wade, but he did give the defendants permission to seek a review of his decision from the appeals court.

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Post by Jake from State Farm 2024-03-28, 12:59

Trapper Gus wrote:One of the reasons the appealt judges decided that Trump could post a lesser bond is that NY already has liens on his NY property which in theory, NY's not Trump's valuations, are more than enough for the settlement.

As an aside, if NY takes the property is Trump still required to pay off the mortgages?

He's on the hook for the taxes he will owe if he doesn't buy a replacement. Of course he will blame that on Biden too.
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Post by DWags 2024-03-29, 07:47

So Trump is threatening the judges daughter. by doing so he knows that there are people in his cult that will give the judges daughter, death threats, and do things to make her life miserable . We know Trump is a coward and we know his followers are insane.

This is absolutely blows my mind: Trump issues this threat and there actually are people out there that take it to heart and will harm this judges daughter. That is third world country type shit And if you’re for Trump, you are for bringing down America into the swine of Third World shit.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-03-29, 07:51

Are there no laws about harnessing someone with threats of bodily harm?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-03-29, 07:54

DWags wrote:So Trump is threatening the judges daughter.  by doing so he knows that there are people in his cult that will give the judges daughter, death threats, and do things to make her life miserable .   We know Trump is a coward and we know his followers are insane.  

This is absolutely blows my mind:  Trump issues this threat and there actually are people out there that take it to heart and will harm this judges daughter.   That is third world country type shit   And if you’re for Trump, you are for bringing down America into the swine of Third World shit.
he'll only stop once he's thrown in jail for violating a gag order.

and maybe not even then....'cause he can claim religious and political persecution and his christian republican/libertarian followers will then go harass/kill someone on his behalf.

he's already convinced them that the court system and jury verdicts prove nothing, that the judicial system is rigged and that the Constitution needs to be done away with. It's really not that far of a leap when you come at it from that angle.
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Post by Zurn 2024-03-29, 08:48

DWags wrote:So Trump is threatening the judges daughter. by doing so he knows that there are people in his cult that will give the judges daughter, death threats, and do things to make her life miserable .


Maxine Waters was an advocate of this tactic. I'm sure you concerned then too.
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Post by DWags 2024-03-29, 08:57

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DWags wrote:So Trump is threatening the judges daughter. by doing so he knows that there are people in his cult that will give the judges daughter, death threats, and do things to make her life miserable .


Maxine Waters was an advocate of this tactic. I'm sure you concerned then too.


Are you asking me if Maxine Waters did this, will I condem it. Yes RQA. That’s how this works. You, because you are a liar, and because you are phony, would never do that


You will deflect and use”whataboutism “ shit that all people like you do.


If a Democratic senator is showing in a picture on an airplane, sexually harassing sleeping member of his party, I would gladly ask him to leave the Senate


Would Republicans do that?

Because you are a liar, I’m calling you a liar RQA, you would never do that. You would deflect and blame the other for a transgression that some lowly democratic congresswoman did, and compare it to something the president of the United States. Did.

Never change.
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Post by Zurn 2024-03-29, 09:11

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Are you asking me if Maxine Waters did this, will I condem it. Yes RQA. That’s how this works. You, because you are a liar, and because you are phony, would never do that


I'm not asking you "if" Maxine Waters did "this" ("this" being advocating harassing government officials), I'm telling you that she did and pointing out the hypocrisy in the absence of criticism from the left about it compared to the outrage from the left about Trump.

Not sure what you are accusing me of lying about. ???
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Post by DWags 2024-03-29, 09:23

Zurn wrote:
DWags wrote:


Are you asking me if Maxine Waters did this, will I condem it. Yes RQA. That’s how this works. You, because you are a liar, and because you are phony, would never do that


I'm not asking you "if" Maxine Waters did "this" ("this" being advocating harassing government officials), I'm telling you that she did and pointing out the hypocrisy in the absence of criticism from the left about it compared to the outrage from the left about Trump.

Not sure what you are accusing me of lying about. ???



First: what’s your screen name.

Second: Maxine vs Trump, how many followers do each have. Also, please site with an article where she did that.

Third: if she did. Screw her, I don’t need the left wing media to do it, I’m doing it. Show me where you’ve done it regarding Trump? Or do you ignore Trump doing it and just use whataboutism?


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Post by kingstonlake 2024-03-29, 09:28

Well I mean Trump supporters have, on multiple occasions, murdered people they disagree with. Like literally walked into a store and started plowing down the people their savior has demonized.

I’ll have to check on Maxine waters supporters.
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Post by kingstonlake 2024-03-29, 09:30

Zurn wrote:
DWags wrote:


Are you asking me if Maxine Waters did this, will I condem it. Yes RQA. That’s how this works. You, because you are a liar, and because you are phony, would never do that


I'm not asking you "if" Maxine Waters did "this" ("this" being advocating harassing government officials), I'm telling you that she did and pointing out the hypocrisy in the absence of criticism from the left about it compared to the outrage from the left about Trump.

Not sure what you are accusing me of lying about. ???

Did you miss a payment on your VPN subscription?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-04-01, 14:44

Zurn wrote:his net worth increased by 3 billion dollars as the stock price of his new social media holding company went up 33% yesterday.


Bobby Sak wrote: but.. last week he couldn't afford to pay his rape victim and this week the mainstream media is telling his followers that he's worth billions!!

it's almost like the mainstream media inflated the numbers because they knew his christian followers would believe them.

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Post by Motown Spartan 2024-04-01, 15:01

$47.65 now.

That $47.65 worth of lies, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy, raping, and CHRISTIANITY!!!
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 2024-04-01, 20:12

Motown Spartan wrote:$47.65 now.

That $47.65 worth of lies, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy, raping, and CHRISTIANITY!!!

How about them bibles? I got one on order
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Post by Zurn 2024-04-02, 08:29

Motown Spartan wrote:$47.65 now.

That $47.65 worth of lies, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy, raping, and CHRISTIANITY!!!

Money to be made by savvy traders if you are convinced the stock price will continue to fall.

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Post by Jake from State Farm 2024-04-02, 08:37

Zurn wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:$47.65 now.

That $47.65 worth of lies, cheating, stealing, hypocrisy, raping, and CHRISTIANITY!!!

Money to be made by savvy traders if you are convinced the stock price will continue to fall.


Seems like shorting it would be a no-brainer. But then you would need to get out before his buddies like Putin and Musk start propping it back up.
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