"Masters of the Air" finally has a release date
"Masters of the Air" finally has a release date
Spielberg-Hanks WWII series ‘Masters of the Air’ gets premiere date
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Should be. We shall see. Spielberg & Hanks were striving for authenticity...likely over $500M in production costs after all the delays.Nordic wrote:Sounds awesome
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The ‘Masters of the Air’ Trailer Is Here, and It Looks Like Two Hundred Million Bucks
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Oh my god. Can't. Fucking. Wait.The Pantry wrote:Trailer is out.
The ‘Masters of the Air’ Trailer Is Here, and It Looks Like Two Hundred Million Bucks
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Despise the way Hollywood slow rolls stuff to garner more attention and adverti$ing.Nordic wrote:“ Masters of the Air begins its run on January 26 with two episodes, after which one will be released weekly.”
The entire series is complete. Wish I could pay to sit down and watch it all at one time for the full effect.
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The Pantry wrote:Despise the way Hollywood slow rolls stuff to garner more attention and adverti$ing.Nordic wrote:“ Masters of the Air begins its run on January 26 with two episodes, after which one will be released weekly.”
The entire series is complete. Wish I could pay to sit down and watch it all at one time for the full effect.
I don't disagree. I used to pay a certain price to stream without ads. Now I get ads and I'm asked to payer higher price to avoid ads.
My answer to your question is that when a service starts dripping out episodes and it's something I want to binge I say fuck them and X number of weeks, then I can.
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Revisit your Big Ben thread and explain WTF you started it.tGreenWay wrote:I thought this was going to be about Michael Jorden, Jason Richardson, Dominique Wilkins, Dr. J., and Vince Carter.
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The Pantry wrote:Despise the way Hollywood slow rolls stuff to garner more attention and adverti$ing.Nordic wrote:“ Masters of the Air begins its run on January 26 with two episodes, after which one will be released weekly.”
The entire series is complete. Wish I could pay to sit down and watch it all at one time for the full effect.
So wait until all of the episodes have aired and then do just that. You realize that Band of Brothers and The Pacific were released in a slow drip, right? The only way you had what you call the "full effect" was to watch those after they all came out.
And they don't do it for attention and advertising, they do it so that if people want to sign up for a free trial to binge them in 1-2 days, they have to wait. How dare they not want to give away their brand new content away for free right away!
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The Pantry wrote:Reminder. Masters of the Air starts this Friday on Apple TV+
Bookmarked it last night. I got a lot in my queue right now with Reacher, True Detective, Fargo, etc.
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The battle scenes with the special effects available today are incredible.
It feels wrong that it's not on HBO, but I'm just glad it was finally made.
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Started watching part 1 late Friday night but had been up since 4:30am and fell asleep. Going to wait until more episodes are released.MiamiSpartan wrote:First two episodes released Friday. I'm admittedly going to be a sunshine blower about this, but I'm loving it. It isn't, and won't be, as good as Band Of Brothers. That would be virtually impossible. We will see how the plot develops. I think focusing on one unit (for the most part) will help it be more cohesive than The Pacific (which I still loved, but was more like 3 different mini-series).
The battle scenes with the special effects available today are incredible.
It feels wrong that it's not on HBO, but I'm just glad it was finally made.
Thorpe Abbotts was where my dad's crew/plane (349th squadron) was based. Dad was a co-pilot. Son of the TTE in the crew contacted me some years back. Spent hours on the phone with him since. He's a great historian of the air war in Europe. Crafted this map of all the missions our dads flew.
Chip is now president of the board of directors of the 100th Bomb Group Foundation. Wealth of 100th information at the website. Could spend days there if you wanted to. Data/comments on my dad's crew/plane:
349th Sqdn. This crew joined the 100th Gp on 23/9/44. Flew overseas B-17G 43-38480 This Aircraft was assigned to the 493rd Bomb Group at Debach and was lost on Sept 30, 1944. Lt Adair flew 20 of their missions in "532" which they nicknamed "Little Sweetheart" and was later called "Kleen Sweep" by Hal Switzer's Crew.
“Goddard was pretty quiet, but fun to be around ... a good officer. When you think about it, he died fairly young after we got home [1958]. But while we were over there he was pretty much a grown-up to me. He was married and had a little girl already – and she [Paula] – was the reason we called the plane that we flew most of our missions on the ‘Little Sweetheart.’” – Conley E. Culpepper interview
According to his daughter, Maureen, via a phone call last Christmas, "Lucky Jim" Adair carried a 4-leaf clover from Iowa inside wax paper his wallet for the duration of the war (and long afterward). It was given to him by his future wife Geneva before he left the States.
Missions of 1st Lt James Adair
# DATE TARGET A/C COMMENTs
1. 12/10/44 Bremen 681 Grumblin Gremlin III FW 190 parts Factory
2. 15/10/44 Cologne 011 The Reluctant Dragon Marshalling Yards
3. 19/10/44 Ludwigshaven 987 The Little Skipper RR Yds, Bomb Bay doors stuck open, #3 eng. Burned out
4. 22/10/44 Munster 215 The Grumblin Gremlin RR Yds
25/10/44 Heligoland 211 no name Recalled after assembly
5. 26/10/44 Hanover 535 no name Tank and Gun factory
6. 02/11/44 Merseburg 987 The Little Skipper Oil
7. 05/11/44 Ludwigshaven 986 Once In A While Chem. Plant, Chaff Ship, Landed at ? Because of strong winds
8. 06/11/44 Neumunster 295 White Cargo Marshalling Yards
9. 16/11/44 Langerwehe (Aachen) 313 Lil Butch Landed with 120 Gal of gas
10. 21/11/44 Osnabruck 535 no name RR Yds
11. 26/11/44 Hamm 073 That's All Brother RR Yds
12. 02/12/44 Koblenz 681 Grumblin Gremlin III Recalled after passing sortie line
13. 04/12/44 Friedburg 987 The Little Skipper RR Yds
14. 05/12/44 Berlin 987 The Little Skipper Tank & Gun factory, Hendrix and Horny passed out from anoxia.
15. 12/12/44 Darmstadt 532 Little Sweetheart RR Yds, 2nd Element Lead
16. 18/12/44 Mainz 532 Little Sweetheart Brought Bombs Back
17. 24/12/44 Biblis 532 Little Sweetheart Airfield Plastered
18. 25/12/44 Kaiserlautern 532 Little Sweetheart RR Yds
19. 28/12/44 Koblenz 532 Little Sweetheart RR Yds
20. 29/12/44 Frankfurt 532 Little Sweetheart RR Yds No 3 in Low Element
21. 30/12/44 Kassel 230 no name Aborted-No1 Eng burned out
22. 03/01/45 Fulda 532 Little Sweetheart RR Yds
23. 05/01/45 Frankfurt 532 Little Sweetheart RR Yds, Low Element Lead
24. 07/01/45 Cologne 532 Little Sweetheart Drove over primary, hit Limburg
25. 20/01/45 Heilbronn 532 Little Sweetheart RR Yds, Deputy Lead
26. 21/01/45 Mannheim 532 Little Sweetheart RR Yds, Low Lead
27. 29/01/45 Kassel 532 Little Sweetheart 2nd Element Lead
28. 09/02/45 Weimar 532 Little Sweetheart Arm Plant, 2nd Element Lead
29. 14/02/45 Chemnitz 532 Little Sweetheart RR Yds, Low Element Lead
30. 15/02/45 Cottbus 532 Little Sweetheart RR Yds
31. 20/02/45 Nurnburg 532 Little Sweetheart no comment
32. 21/02/45 Nurnburg 532 Little Sweetheart no comment
33. 23/02/45 Trenchtlingen 532 Little Sweetheart RR Yds
34. 24/02/45 Bremen 532 Little Sweetheart RR Bridge
35. 25/02/45 Munich 532 Little Sweetheart RR Yds. FINIS
Lt Adair's Medals: Air Medal with 5 Oak Leaf Cluster
ETO Ribbon with one Battle Star
NOTES from Lt Jim Adair's Pilot Log Book:
Assignment and Training of the Crew were in Sioux City Iowa from 6/44 to 9/44. Crew members were previously trained for their positions at various bases. Milton Brucker came from a Bombardier training base in Texas. In September 1944, the crew was sent to Lincoln, Nebraska to pick up a new B-17G. From Lincoln the Crew flew to Syracuse, N.Y. to fuel, then onward to Grenier field, New Hampshire. From there, departed for Presque Newfoundland. Had to return to Grenier Field after detecting a faulty fuel Pump. Waited 8 Days for a replacement to come in. Finally left September 12th for Goose Bay, Newfoundland (5 hour, 40 minute flight). Stayed overnight, left September 14th, flying to Meeks Field in Iceland (8 hr Flight). Stayed at Meeks Field overnight (nothing but C rations for Food). Left Iceland September 16th, heading for Wales (5 hours 40 minutes).
The takeoff from Iceland was extremely hazardous due to the strong cross winds and boulders along side of the runway, Very Scary!!! Had to take off at 70mph substantially less that usual take off speed because of strong cross winds and boulders alongside the runway. Pilot told the control tower of the dangers in that particular runway hoping there might be a better choice for future takeoffs. Arrived in Wales 5 1/2 hours later, left the new plane in Wales and boarded a train for Thorpe Abbotts Air Base. Beginning October 5, 1944, Practice missions 30 minutes to 3 1/2hrs in length were scheduled.
First Bombing Mission was 10/12/44 to Bremen, Germany, Flying time 6 hrs 20 minutes. Bombing raids usually had 27-36 Planes from the 100th flying in formation plus other Groups from England making 1200 planes total on a mission. Target in Bremen was FW 190 parts factory. Battle of Bulge had 3000 plus planes from the Eighth Air Force flying that Mission. The only encounter our crew had with a German fighter plane (ME 262) WAS WHEN A German fighter pilot flew through our formation undetected due to heavy contrails. He flew close enough to our plane for us to see his face. Our gunners shot at him but he was probably flying 120 miles an hour faster and vanished in an instant.
The Pilots log went through censors and some of the data was deleted. Censoring was done before V-E Day and at a time when our 35 Missions were already completed.
My Worst Three Missions were:
No1. Bremen: WE discovered there was real flak out there and realized we could get killed!!!!
No 6 Merseburg: A refinery was heavily protected by flak guns brought in by rail. I witnessed one of our planes go down in flames
No 35 Munich: This was our last mission. Heavy Flak trailed us just 200 feet to one side during a long bomb run. A plane just above us caught fire on #2 engine. The bombardier jumped out immediately--afraid of an explosion. The pilot of his plane made it back to base. The Bombardier ended up a POW (it was actually to have been his last scheduled mission).
My Crew felt very fortunate to complete 35 Missions without a casualty. However, in the future age and illness took their toll.
Crewmate Comments:
“Adair was always fair. Some officers weren’t, but Adair was consistently fair. He’d listen to you, hear you out before deciding something, and he always trusted – and expected – you to do your job.”
“He was just an all-around outstanding pilot. Never once got rattled that I knew of. No matter what happened to us – or the plane – Adair got us home and landed smooth. I don’t ever recall a rough or bad landing with him.”
“I’d say Adair held us together. ... A good man. One of the finest I’ve ever known.” – Conley E. Culpepper interview
My dad never talked about the war. I was too young and dumb to ask questions before he passed. Learned a lot of things about him thanks to Chip and the 100th website. Pics I'd never seen before and stories I'd never heard. Dad got assigned his own plane/crew and flew humanitarian missions dropping supplies after his 35 combat missions were done.
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John Orloff on the left, Chip right. Chip's a great dude. He's going to celebrate John 'Lucky' Luckadoo's 102nd birthday with him next month.
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Those guys were a special breed that evolved at exactly the right time.tGreenWay wrote:Very much enjoying this series. Between the exploding flack and bullets shredding those flying tin cans, it’s insane what those crews dealt with.
Coincidence, or a gift from God?
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Overall the series is living up to expectations. The flying scenes are incredible and intense. The non-combat scenes are a bit rough. Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, etc. did an excellent job on character building in between intense combat scenes and that made you really connect with them. E1 of Band of Brothers is one of the best episodes. This is lacking that a bit, but still moves the plot along well enough.
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The POW scenes were intense in E4.
Buck can't be dead right? They can't kill one of the two main characters without showing how he went down.
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Just remembered. Dad had a very small rust-colored spot on his right calf. Was from a piece of flack. Didn't get infected and didn't bug him...he never bothered to have it removed.tGreenWay wrote:Very much enjoying this series. Between the exploding flack and bullets shredding those flying tin cans, it’s insane what those crews dealt with.
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The Pantry wrote:Just remembered. Dad had a very small rust-colored spot on his right calf. Was from a piece of flack. Didn't get infected and didn't bug him...he never bothered to have it removed.tGreenWay wrote:Very much enjoying this series. Between the exploding flack and bullets shredding those flying tin cans, it’s insane what those crews dealt with.
That’s crazy.
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Seems like it in this day and age. Back then, they sometimes flew missions on back-to-back days. Maybe he just forgot about it?tGreenWay wrote:The Pantry wrote:Just remembered. Dad had a very small rust-colored spot on his right calf. Was from a piece of flack. Didn't get infected and didn't bug him...he never bothered to have it removed.
That’s crazy.
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Nordic wrote:Excellent stuff Pantry.
Overall the series is living up to expectations. The flying scenes are incredible and intense. The non-combat scenes are a bit rough. Band of Brothers, Saving Private Ryan, etc. did an excellent job on character building in between intense combat scenes and that made you really connect with them. E1 of Band of Brothers is one of the best episodes. This is lacking that a bit, but still moves the plot along well enough.
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The POW scenes were intense in E4.
Buck can't be dead right? They can't kill one of the two main characters without showing how he went down.
Probably a POW. It's a pretty good watch - pretty incredible the losses they suffered - just sending out thousands of dudes to die - the callousness of the leaders to the human loss was something.
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