Re: I would not be suprised if Michigan had more lakes: Minnesota pregame thread

by **NigelUno** 2023-10-28, 18:43

Minnesota could actually play in the Big Ten Championship.

by aualum06 2023-10-28, 18:49

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
aualum06 wrote:Over the shit. MSU isn't this bad, but Barnett is holy shit bad
Barnett didn't make this mess, he's just trying to finish the season.
Johnson and beard are fair game, they've been "coordinating" this shitshow since the beginning.

Nah they are all a shit show. Not one coach on this staff is making a positive difference, I feel for Barnett as he's in an impossible spot but come on

by **Heat Miser** 2023-10-28, 18:52

So do we prefer the boring Houser offense, or the exciting turnover Leavitt offense? The result is pretty much the same.

by aualum06 2023-10-28, 18:54

Heat Miser wrote:So do we prefer the boring Houser offense, or the exciting turnover Leavitt offense? The result is pretty much the same.

Houser seems to have a noodle arm

by **tGreenWay** 2023-10-28, 18:55

aualum06 wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Barnett didn't make this mess, he's just trying to finish the season.
Johnson and beard are fair game, they've been "coordinating" this shitshow since the beginning.

Nah they are all a shit show. Not one coach on this staff is making a positive difference, I feel for Barnett as he's in an impossible spot but come on

I think highly of HB for all he’s done for MSU, but his time as a coach should be coming to an end. AFAIK, he’s always been an excellent representative for the school, so give him some role as an MSU ambassador as he rides off into retirement.
I’d keep Courtney Hawkins because I think he could become a vg coach and he’s displayed some talent as a recruiter.

by **Heat Miser** 2023-10-28, 18:56

aualum06 wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:So do we prefer the boring Houser offense, or the exciting turnover Leavitt offense? The result is pretty much the same.

Houser seems to have a noodle arm

Seemed pretty good against Rutgers. Maybe he got PTSD from the SCum game. I would not be suprised if Michigan had more lakes: Minnesota pregame thread - Page 3 2599972566

I would not be suprised if Michigan had more lakes: Minnesota pregame thread - Page 3 2599972566

by **Heat Miser** 2023-10-28, 18:59

tGreenWay wrote:
aualum06 wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Barnett didn't make this mess, he's just trying to finish the season.
Johnson and beard are fair game, they've been "coordinating" this shitshow since the beginning.

Nah they are all a shit show. Not one coach on this staff is making a positive difference, I feel for Barnett as he's in an impossible spot but come on

I think highly of HB for all he’s done for MSU, but his time as a coach should be coming to an end. AFAIK, he’s always been an excellent representative for the school, so give him some role as an MSU ambassador as he rides off into retirement.
I’d keep Courtney Hawkins because I think he could become a vg coach and he’s displayed some talent as a recruiter.

Regarding Hawkins, our receivers don't get open very much. No separation. How much of that is coaching vs talent I don't know.

by **tGreenWay** 2023-10-28, 19:02

Heat Miser wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

I think highly of HB for all he’s done for MSU, but his time as a coach should be coming to an end. AFAIK, he’s always been an excellent representative for the school, so give him some role as an MSU ambassador as he rides off into retirement.
I’d keep Courtney Hawkins because I think he could become a vg coach and he’s displayed some talent as a recruiter.

Regarding Hawkins, our receivers don't get open very much. No separation. How much of that is coaching vs talent I don't know.

When they’ve gotten open the pass doesn’t get there or they’ve dropped them. It seems like these receivers have talent, but like you said, I don’t know either.

by aualum06 2023-10-28, 19:03

Also the onside kick was a very desperate and very dumb call

by **duffy munn** 2023-10-28, 19:25

kingstonlake wrote:First interview question for potential new coach: Name the only player on offense you’ll keep on scholarship

If he doesn’t say Carter, end the interview.

Jimmies and Joes
We don't have any.

by **DWags** 2023-10-28, 19:29

Our line is Mac level bad.

by aualum06 2023-10-28, 19:29

duffy munn wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:First interview question for potential new coach: Name the only player on offense you’ll keep on scholarship

If he doesn’t say Carter, end the interview.
Jimmies and Joes
We don't have any.

It starts with QB and blocking for the said QB

by **NigelUno** 2023-10-28, 19:49

aualum06 wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:So do we prefer the boring Houser offense, or the exciting turnover Leavitt offense? The result is pretty much the same.

Houser seems to have a noodle arm

Throwing off his back foot because he's backing up all the time.

by **NigelUno** 2023-10-28, 19:50

aualum06 wrote:Also the onside kick was a very desperate and very dumb call

Agreed. Way too early to do that. And down 5? Didn't like it.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-10-28, 20:33

I just don't know what to say about this team. A failed experiment from top to bottom.

by AvgMSUJoe 2023-10-28, 20:39

Come on guys... we still got a chance against Indiana, our greatest rival.

by **NigelUno** 2023-10-28, 20:44

Trapper Gus wrote:I just don't know what to say about this team. A failed experiment from top to bottom.

Hall is a player. Hope he sticks around.

by **Heat Miser** 2023-10-28, 21:18

I refuse to believe this roster is devoid of talent. I have to believe more than half the problem is coaching/scheme.

by **Trapper Gus** 2023-10-28, 21:23

Heat Miser wrote:I refuse to believe this roster is devoid of talent. I have to believe more than half the problem is coaching/scheme.

That is a hopeful thought, however IMO poor coaching or playing on a poorly coached team can ruin talent.

by **NigelUno** 2023-10-28, 21:34

Heat Miser wrote:I refuse to believe this roster is devoid of talent. I have to believe more than half the problem is coaching/scheme.

There’s talent. We’d be 4-4 with mediocre coaching.

by AvgMSUJoe 2023-10-28, 21:39

NigelUno wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:I refuse to believe this roster is devoid of talent. I have to believe more than half the problem is coaching/scheme.

There’s talent. We’d be 4-4 with mediocre coaching.

These conversations are more or less irrelevant. The new coach will use or discard the "talent" as they deem necessary.... I guess having first Crack at these kids is better than the alternative but really... doesn't matter anymore. Nil commitment from donates means more.

by **Heat Miser** 2023-10-28, 21:47

Trapper Gus wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:I refuse to believe this roster is devoid of talent. I have to believe more than half the problem is coaching/scheme.

That is a hopeful thought, however IMO poor coaching or playing on a poorly coached team can ruin talent.

And good coaching can revive that talent IMHO. The amount of actual talent on the roster influences how long the "rebuild" will take.

by AvgMSUJoe 2023-10-28, 22:27

Heat Miser wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

That is a hopeful thought, however IMO poor coaching or playing on a poorly coached team can ruin talent.

And good coaching can revive that talent IMHO. The amount of actual talent on the roster influences how long the "rebuild" will take.

Don't ask fucking Steve about this...

by **NigelUno** 2023-10-28, 22:30

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

And good coaching can revive that talent IMHO. The amount of actual talent on the roster influences how long the "rebuild" will take.
Don't ask fucking Steve about this...

We need a Rock Star hire.

by **Heat Miser** 2023-10-29, 01:48

Results from teams whose coach is rumored to be a target for the MSU job:

KU: W(6-2)
KSU: W(6-2)
WSU: L(4-4)
OSU: L(6-2)
Marshall: L(4-4)
Urbs: DNP(0-0)

by **steveschneider** 2023-10-29, 06:50

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Heat Miser wrote:

And good coaching can revive that talent IMHO. The amount of actual talent on the roster influences how long the "rebuild" will take.
Don't ask fucking Steve about this...

Ask Justin Spiro or Jim Comparoni they have insiders.

by **steveschneider** 2023-10-29, 07:08

Heat Miser wrote:Results from teams whose coach is rumored to be a target for the MSU job:

KU: W(6-2)
KSU: W(6-2)
WSU: L(4-4)
OSU: L(6-2)
Marshall: L(4-4)
Urbs: DNP(0-0)

Jason Candle 7-1

by **NigelUno** 2023-10-29, 08:29

Heat Miser wrote:Results from teams whose coach is rumored to be a target for the MSU job:

KU: W(6-2)
KSU: W(6-2)
WSU: L(4-4)
OSU: L(6-2)
Marshall: L(4-4)
Urbs: DNP(0-0)

I'm fine with the first 2. Marshall and Duke Coach have lost their luster.

by **kingstonlake** 2023-10-29, 08:42

There’s a couple of 4-4 teams have lost their luster.

by Pervis Muldoon 2023-10-29, 09:48

It's time to put Matt Rhule on the list. I generally don't support former linebackers for head coaching positions, but he's starting to win games at Nebraska of all places.

by **NigelUno** 2023-10-29, 09:53

I hope the guy that hates trolling isn’t in this thread trolling…

by **kingstonlake** 2023-10-29, 10:02

Some of the 4-4 coaches out there who’ve been mentioned as potential hires do seem to have lost their luster.

Sorry if I’ve hurt anyone’s feelings.

In the future I’ll only mention coaches who’ve lost their luster that don’t offend anyone.

by Zurn 2023-10-29, 10:15

Pervis Muldoon wrote:It's time to put Matt Rhule on the list.

Has a Big10 head coach ever taken a head coaching job at another Big10 school?

by Pervis Muldoon 2023-10-29, 11:23

Zurn wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:It's time to put Matt Rhule on the list.

Has a Big10 head coach ever taken a head coaching job at another Big10 school?

I don't know but MSU took Mel Tucker from Colorado and Colorado was once in the same conference as Nebraska so that pretty much set the precedent for MSU to take Rhule from Nebraska.

by **NigelUno** 2023-10-29, 11:42

Zurn wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:It's time to put Matt Rhule on the list.

Has a Big10 head coach ever taken a head coaching job at another Big10 school?

Alex Agase

by Pervis Muldoon 2023-10-29, 12:05

NigelUno wrote:
Zurn wrote:

Has a Big10 head coach ever taken a head coaching job at another Big10 school?

Alex Agase

The hippie tennis player?

by **NigelUno** 2023-10-29, 13:46

Pervis Muldoon wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Alex Agase

The hippie tennis player?

His older brother.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-10-29, 14:37

Pervis Muldoon wrote:It's time to put Matt Rhule on the list. I generally don't support former linebackers for head coaching positions, but he's starting to win games at Nebraska of all places.

It's fine as long as they don't become GMs or professional football teams in the city of Detroit.

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