Poll About Political Stratagy of the Border Bill

“The chaos of the Republican Party right now has real and disastrous consequences for the American people and for those of us right back home in West Michigan,” said Scholten. “Their big attempt at fixing the border was to impeach the Secretary of Homeland Security, and they couldn’t even convince their full membership to get behind that idea. And it failed horrifically.”

JEERS to America: Land of the Ignoramuses. If polling was a school quiz, our nation would get an F so fast it'd make our heads spin. According to the latest ABC News/Ipsos poll, we are certainly an exceptional nation—as in, exceptionally clueless. I will confine my comments to a text box so that the stupid can't escape and further contaminate those of us with a brain. The article clips are in bold and my comments are in italics:

Americans find there is blame to go around on Congress' failure to pass legislation intended to decrease the number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border.

No they didn't "find" that. Because there isn't blame to “go around.”

[A]bout the same number blame the Republicans in Congress (53%), [and] the Democrats (51%), even though Democrats were prepared to approve the most sweeping immigration reform in over 40 years, while Republicans purposely tanked the whole deal for political reasons before they'd even read it because their mob boss (see below) told them to.

49% blame President Biden, even though he said he would sign the Murphy-Lankford immigration bill as soon as it landed on his desk.

Fewer, 39%, blame Trump, even though he is solely responsible for tanking the deal, having threatened to unleash his cult on Republicans in Congress with doxxing, swatting, primarying, and closing off their access to sex parties at Perv-a-Lago.

Congratulations, America. Despite having all the accurate information at your fingertips via 30 seconds on Google, you got it completely wrong again and remain, for the foreseeable future, dumb as rocks. Or as rocks say: dumb as people.

A group of Republican legislators recently returned from a trip to the southern border are advocating for more states, including Michigan, to deploy National Guard units to help stop what was referred to as “sabotage” of the nation’s borders.

CNN’s Dana Bash tonight said voters had told her they voted against the Republican candidate because Republicans, on Trump’s orders, killed the bipartisan border deal.

Trapper Gus wrote:This one is for Bob:

JEERS to America: Land of the Ignoramuses. If polling was a school quiz, our nation would get an F so fast it'd make our heads spin. According to the latest ABC News/Ipsos poll, we are certainly an exceptional nation—as in, exceptionally clueless. I will confine my comments to a text box so that the stupid can't escape and further contaminate those of us with a brain. The article clips are in bold and my comments are in italics:

Americans find there is blame to go around on Congress' failure to pass legislation intended to decrease the number of illegal crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border.

No they didn't "find" that. Because there isn't blame to “go around.”

[A]bout the same number blame the Republicans in Congress (53%), [and] the Democrats (51%), even though Democrats were prepared to approve the most sweeping immigration reform in over 40 years, while Republicans purposely tanked the whole deal for political reasons before they'd even read it because their mob boss (see below) told them to.

49% blame President Biden, even though he said he would sign the Murphy-Lankford immigration bill as soon as it landed on his desk.

Fewer, 39%, blame Trump, even though he is solely responsible for tanking the deal, having threatened to unleash his cult on Republicans in Congress with doxxing, swatting, primarying, and closing off their access to sex parties at Perv-a-Lago.

Congratulations, America. Despite having all the accurate information at your fingertips via 30 seconds on Google, you got it completely wrong again and remain, for the foreseeable future, dumb as rocks. Or as rocks say: dumb as people.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/2/13/2222623/-Cheers-and-Jeers-Tuesday?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=top_news_slot_3&pm_medium=web

WASHINGTON -- Arrests for illegal crossings on the U.S. border with Mexico fell by half in January from record highs in December to the third lowest month of Joe Biden's presidency, authorities said Tuesday.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I don't know about y'all, but I'd be happy to trade immigrants willing to walk across a country to be in America for a bunch of whiny MAGA christian knuckle-scrapers who have contempt for America, the judicial system, democracy, the Constitution and traditional American values.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Senate’s border proposal was one of the toughest bipartisan bills to emerge on the issue in decades. Yet it quickly collapsed when Republicans — galvanized by Donald Trump, the likely Republican presidential nominee — rejected the compromise as insufficient.

Now Democrats see an opening.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer called Trump’s rejection of the border legislation “a gift” for Democrats and said they plan to “constantly over the next year” remind voters that it was Republicans who torpedoed the deal. And he says the strategy has already paid dividends, with Democrat Tom Suozzi, who campaigned on tougher border enforcement, winning a special election this week in New York, flipping a House seat away from Republicans.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House is considering using provisions of federal immigration law repeatedly tapped by former President Donald Trump to unilaterally enact a sweeping crackdown at the southern border, according to three people familiar with the deliberations.

The administration, stymied by Republican lawmakers who rejected a negotiated border bill earlier this month, has been exploring options that President Joe Biden could deploy on his own without congressional approval, multiple officials and others familiar with the talks said. But the plans are nowhere near finalized and it’s unclear how the administration would draft any such executive actions in a way that would survive the inevitable legal challenges. The officials and those familiar with the talks spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to comment on private ongoing White House discussions.

DWags wrote:Floyd’s post on the other board about China hacking into the phone system. he brings up a good point about the location that China or Russia whatever invade the Americas  it certainly wouldn’t be the East Coast or the West Coast  it would be Central America, and then a ground war up towards our southern borders  


I have to believe the pentagon knows that    

I say that for this reason.  If you really wanna fortify our southern border, it’s always occurred to me that you could sell it way more easily to America as a potential first line of defense against any invasion in World War III.  

WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden on Monday urged local officials to lobby their members of Congress to pass the bipartisan border security deal struck in the Senate that Republicans walked away from this year.

In a brief speech touting the administration’s accomplishments to more than 2,000 mayors, city officials and other advocates in Washington for the National League of Cities’ Congressional Cities Conference, Biden said cities needed more federal support to deal with a surge of newly arrived migrants.

“It has the funds that many of our cities badly need,” Biden said of the bipartisan border security bill. “Tell your members in Congress to show up, show a little spine, and pass the bipartisan border security bill.”

On immigration, the funding package “" ... increases detention capacity and the number of Border Patrol Agents to match levels in the House-passed appropriations bill and the Secure the Border Act (H.R. 2),” Speaker Johnson said.

The bottom line: It's already against the law for asylum seekers and other migrants to cross the southwest border anywhere other than the designated, legal entry points.

Biden already has used his executive power to automatically reject asylum seekers who cross the border illegally and do not first seek protections in a country they passed through.
But harsh executive policies do little to fix the U.S. immigration system's outdated infrastructure, cash-needy federal agencies and overwhelmed border officials trying to keep up with tens of thousands of people trying to cross into the U.S. every week.
So even if Biden does go "nuclear" at the border, it's likely to be a short-term fix.

WASHINGTON — The U.S. House Saturday failed to pass a border security bill that Republican leadership intended as an incentive for conservatives to support a foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.

The border bill, turned down on a 215-199 vote, was brought to the floor under a fast-track procedure known as suspension of the rules that requires a two-thirds majority for passage. The conservatives it was meant to appeal to slammed it as a “show vote.”

Five Democrats, Donald G. Davis of North Carolina, Jared Golden of Maine, Vicente Gonzalez of Texas, Mary Peltola of Alaska and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington, voted with all Republicans present in favor of the bill.

Trapper Gus wrote:

WASHINGTON — The U.S. House Saturday failed to pass a border security bill that Republican leadership intended as an incentive for conservatives to support a foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.

The border bill, turned down on a 215-199 vote, was brought to the floor under a fast-track procedure known as suspension of the rules that requires a two-thirds majority for passage. The conservatives it was meant to appeal to slammed it as a “show vote.”

Five Democrats, Donald G. Davis of North Carolina, Jared Golden of Maine, Vicente Gonzalez of Texas, Mary Peltola of Alaska and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez of Washington, voted with all Republicans present in favor of the bill.

https://michiganadvance.com/2024/04/22/u-s-house-votes-down-border-bill-favored-by-conservatives/

If this is so important why didn't the Republican leadership make sure all their members voted?

Once again, we see the Republicans refusing to "take the win" they could have had with the bill the Seante put together only to have it sabotaged by Trump.

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden and Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador are moving swiftly on new steps to crack down on illegal migration that include tougher enforcement on railways, on buses and in airports as well as increased repatriation flights for migrants from both the U.S. and Mexico.

The two leaders previewed the measures in a statement following a call on Sunday, which centered on their joint efforts to “effectively manage” migration and the U.S.-Mexico border. Biden and López Obrador said they are directing their national security aides to “immediately implement concrete measures” to reduce the number of illegal border crossings.

DWags wrote:Why does the NRA get a free pass by the republican knuckle draggers regarding the border and the reason so many are fleeing central America? they amount of guns we produce and sell in America are absolutely supplying the cartels big time in Mexico and Central America.

Yet, it seems that the gun manufactures and NRA who supply the cartels with all their weapons then turn around and blame thier violence on Biden or anyone who wants to put an end to such production and sales in our country.