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Post by GRR Spartan Fri 5 Apr 2024 - 14:58

Bronny James has announced he's in the transfer portal.  
I'm guessing he goes to another school sponsored by Nike.

Izzo was on the Dan Patrick Show this morning.  We know he's not an NIL/Portal fan.

He brought up an interesting point.  He thinks incoming freshmen are losing out on scholarship opportunities because a lot of schools are turning to the portal top recruit two or more portal players.

Reminded me of The Athletic piece last year that told about how 3* and sometimes 4* HS QB's are being passed on by Power 5 schools because the coaches are more interested in offering a scholarship slot to an unhappy 4*/5* QB than taking a chance on an 18 - 19 year old.


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Post by tGreenWay Fri 5 Apr 2024 - 15:06

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Best name since Johnny Fuckerfaster, a guy I heard about in fifth grade. Boy did he get into some crazy situations!




Tap the brakes, friendo. We’ve been here before, or have you forgotten Dirk Diggler and his supposed ball-handling skills?
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Post by Cameron Fri 5 Apr 2024 - 15:16

gomersbro wrote:Seems strange that he is talking about a big wing that can shoot. Is he worried about Gehrig Normand not being ready next year? Isn't the incoming Teng kid also a knockdown shooter at 6'6"? In my mind, another PG is almost a necessity with Holloman and Fears, who will still be working his way back, and Jase who will have that freshman learning curve.

Ok I should note that my hope has been burned so often by incoming freshmen shooters. Is Chris Hill the last one that exceeded expectations? I won't name names, but yikes, I need to see it in games first. Maybe that is where Izzo is coming from.

You can never really have too many big wings that can shoot.
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Post by DWags Fri 5 Apr 2024 - 16:00

gomersbro wrote:Seems strange that he is talking about a big wing that can shoot. Is he worried about Gehrig Normand not being ready next year? Isn't the incoming Teng kid also a knockdown shooter at 6'6"? In my mind, another PG is almost a necessity with Holloman and Fears, who will still be working his way back, and Jase who will have that freshman learning curve.

Ok I should note that my hope has been burned so often by incoming freshmen shooters. Is Chris Hill the last one that exceeded expectations? I won't name names, but yikes, I need to see it in games first. Maybe that is where Izzo is coming from.

At the end of his career McQuaid was rocking it in the BTT and NCAA. Of course his biggest miss was against Texas tech in the semi’s.
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Post by duffy munn Fri 5 Apr 2024 - 16:31

gomersbro wrote:Seems strange that he is talking about a big wing that can shoot. Is he worried about Gehrig Normand not being ready next year? Isn't the incoming Teng kid also a knockdown shooter at 6'6"? In my mind, another PG is almost a necessity with Holloman and Fears, who will still be working his way back, and Jase who will have that freshman learning curve.

Ok I should note that my hope has been burned so often by incoming freshmen shooters. Is Chris Hill the last one that exceeded expectations? I won't name names, but yikes, I need to see it in games first. Maybe that is where Izzo is coming from.

I think Fears is going to be fine and will get 30 minutes. That leaves 10 to split between Trey and Jrich jr. As for the other guys ( Normand, Teng), I have no clue.
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Post by NigelUno Fri 5 Apr 2024 - 18:22

duffy munn wrote:
gomersbro wrote:Seems strange that he is talking about a big wing that can shoot. Is he worried about Gehrig Normand not being ready next year? Isn't the incoming Teng kid also a knockdown shooter at 6'6"? In my mind, another PG is almost a necessity with Holloman and Fears, who will still be working his way back, and Jase who will have that freshman learning curve.

Ok I should note that my hope has been burned so often by incoming freshmen shooters. Is Chris Hill the last one that exceeded expectations? I won't name names, but yikes, I need to see it in games first. Maybe that is where Izzo is coming from.

I think Fears is going to be fine and will get 30 minutes. That leaves 10 to split between Trey and Jrich jr. As for the other guys ( Normand, Teng), I have no clue.

I'm fine with the PG situation. Fears can take Hoggard's minutes. Holloman can back up, and play alongside Fears for another 10 minutes.
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Post by NigelUno Sat 6 Apr 2024 - 19:28

DWags wrote:Izzo has inquired


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Post by DWags Sat 6 Apr 2024 - 22:54

Anybody watching this Bama UConn game and thinks Izzo can magically pick up a 5 and a decent shooting wing and we got a shot, I don’t think is paying close attention.

They’re playing a game I’m not familiar with.
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Post by NigelUno Sun 7 Apr 2024 - 9:44

DWags wrote:Anybody watching this Bama UConn game and thinks Izzo can magically pick up a 5 and a decent shooting wing and we got a shot, I don’t think is paying close attention.

They’re playing a game I’m not familiar with.

Fears and Akins will need to step up. Add 2 guys in the portal who are immediately in the playing group, and have one of the freshmen step right in. Sounds easy.
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Post by DWags Sun 7 Apr 2024 - 10:23

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:Anybody watching this Bama UConn game and thinks Izzo can magically pick up a 5 and a decent shooting wing and we got a shot, I don’t think is paying close attention.

They’re playing a game I’m not familiar with.

Fears and Akins will need to step up. Add 2 guys in the portal who are immediately in the playing group, and have one of the freshmen step right in. Sounds easy.

Those teams I saw last night I’ve seen at MSU, don’t get me wrong. 2000, DayDays team 2019.

But each of those teams Izzo had for a bit and was able to mold them. I guess the question is, can he grab portal help and turn them into Izzo players in an eight month moving window?
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Sun 7 Apr 2024 - 10:29

Took Walker more then a year.

No center as athletic and together as uconn's will be anywhere near available unless Daddy Ishbia swoops in and poaches one with his stacks and stacks of cash. (Ew)
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Post by Trapper Gus Sun 7 Apr 2024 - 10:32

DWags wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Fears and Akins will need to step up. Add 2 guys in the portal who are immediately in the playing group, and have one of the freshmen step right in. Sounds easy.

Those teams I saw last night I’ve seen at MSU, don’t get me wrong. 2000, DayDays team 2019.

But each of those teams Izzo had for a bit and was able to mold them. I guess the question is, can he grab portal help and turn them into Izzo players in an eight month moving window?

IMO the 2020 team was close, too bad the NCAA was cancelled
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Post by NigelUno Sun 7 Apr 2024 - 12:06

Trapper Gus wrote:
DWags wrote:

Those teams I saw last night I’ve seen at MSU, don’t get me wrong. 2000, DayDays team 2019.

But each of those teams Izzo had for a bit and was able to mold them. I guess the question is, can he grab portal help and turn them into Izzo players in an eight month moving window?

IMO the 2020 team was close, too bad the NCAA was cancelled

For sure. 2019 team had the talent also.
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Post by kingstonlake Sun 7 Apr 2024 - 12:38

Aikens is a role player. That’s it. A streaking shooting guard with flashes of freakish athleticism and above average defense. He is what he is by now. He’s not a guy who will ever carry a team.
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Post by DWags Mon 8 Apr 2024 - 22:56

Thoughts?

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Post by Nordic Mon 8 Apr 2024 - 23:44

DWags wrote:Thoughts?  

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I heard he was the bestest defensive mind in the country, But then didn’t for the last few years. /s

I have no idea. I don’t care if he coached at UofM. If he can help, do it. But it does seem like we need a big man coach.
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Post by Nordic Mon 8 Apr 2024 - 23:50

DWags wrote:Anybody watching this Bama UConn game and thinks Izzo can magically pick up a 5 and a decent shooting wing and we got a shot, I don’t think is paying close attention.

They’re playing a game I’m not familiar with.

UConn absolutely smothered anyone not named Edey tonight. Their 1-4 was >>> than Purdue’s.
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Post by tGreenWay Tue 9 Apr 2024 - 4:23

DWags wrote:Thoughts?

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Thoughts? Here it is nearly 4:30 in the morning and the one thought that keeps coming back to me is how I had an early dinner and now I’m hungry.
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Post by Zurn Tue 9 Apr 2024 - 8:14

tGreenWay wrote:
DWags wrote:Thoughts?

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Thoughts? Here it is nearly 4:30 in the morning and the one thought that keeps coming back to me is how I had an early dinner and now I’m hungry.

Saadi's daughter is a gymnast for Ohio State and so I don't think he has any particular loyalty to M. IRRC, he was the only holdover Juwan kept from the Beilein era and Saadi has a strong Greg Kampe connection.

I think it would be a good pickup and likely to annoy Michigan fans. A win-win!



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Post by DWags Wed 10 Apr 2024 - 21:58

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Post by DWags Wed 10 Apr 2024 - 22:27

It’s two minutes 18 seconds. Listen to the last 14 seconds. I think he knows he has to change some things as far as filling his rosters. I also think he’s going to try to do it in a way that doesn’t completely throw his model of team building out. This isn’t going to be easy

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Post by tGreenWay Thu 18 Apr 2024 - 14:31

Confirmation: Tom says AJ won’t be coming back to MSU. Hoggard is leaning pro, but if returns to college, it won’t be at MSU.

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2024/04/tom-izzo-aj-hoggard-wont-return-to-michigan-state.html?outputType=amp


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Post by GRR Spartan Thu 18 Apr 2024 - 15:28

No wiggle room in Izzo’s announcement.

Looking at 2024-25 roster it’s looking like Izzo is banking on upside of Fears, incoming combo guard Richardson with Akins and Holloman returning.
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Post by InTenSity Thu 18 Apr 2024 - 15:55

Wisconsin has had 5 players enter the portal. They will be forced to play a true freshman as a guard. Chuck Hepburn entered today.
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Post by NigelUno Thu 18 Apr 2024 - 16:34

GRR Spartan wrote:No wiggle room in Izzo’s announcement.

Looking at 2024-25 roster it’s looking like Izzo is banking on upside of Fears, incoming combo guard Richardson with Akins and Holloman returning.

Something was off last season. I think we all saw it. Moving on.
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Post by DWags Thu 18 Apr 2024 - 17:04

Damn, say it isn't so.  

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Post by NigelUno Thu 18 Apr 2024 - 18:09

DWags wrote:Damn, say it isn't so.  

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They kept a lid on that for awhile. I guess we know why he didn't play now.
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Post by DWags Thu 18 Apr 2024 - 19:48

Ask yourself if Izzo would want this guy in the locker room
Seems a guy with this much movement, though very good, goes against everything Izzo loves in a program


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Post by Nordic Thu 18 Apr 2024 - 20:25

Looks like a team player
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Post by Floyd Robertson Thu 18 Apr 2024 - 20:27

Nordic wrote:Looks like a team player

Proof that there is an I in team after all.
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Post by tGreenWay Thu 18 Apr 2024 - 21:05

Floyd Robertson wrote:
Nordic wrote:Looks like a team player

Proof that there is an I in team after all.


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Post by GRR Spartan Thu 18 Apr 2024 - 22:32

DWags wrote:Damn, say it isn't so.  

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As of a couple of weeks ago TAMU team site had Marble had not been with the team since October ‘23 due to personal issues. Now we know why they were being vague.
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Post by NigelUno Fri 19 Apr 2024 - 9:09

DWags wrote:Thoughts?

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What's going on with this? Are we just waiting out some mandatory time period after a job is posted?
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Post by DWags Tue 23 Apr 2024 - 13:47

Fiddler on the roof!

Michigan State head coach Tom Izzo made waves on the recruiting trail when he landed Omaha transfer Franke Fidler via the transfer portal on Tuesday. Fidler announced his commitment via social media.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 23 Apr 2024 - 13:55

DWags wrote:Fiddler on the roof!

Michigan State head coach Tom Izzo made waves on the recruiting trail when he landed Omaha transfer Franke Fidler via the transfer portal on Tuesday. Fidler announced his commitment via social media.

if he or his family can't work "Time To Pay The Fidler" into his NIL package request, then I lose all faith in humanity.
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Post by DWags Tue 23 Apr 2024 - 14:12

PG: Fears, Holloman, Richardson

SG: Akins, Holloman, Teng

SF: Fidler, Booker, Normand

PF: Booker, Carr


C:Cooper, Kholer


Who am I missing? Seems Izzo has some toys to play with. Final four? Maybe not. But the team won’t suck.

Fears and Holloman have to be leaders.
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Post by NigelUno Tue 23 Apr 2024 - 14:17

DWags wrote:PG: Fears, Holloman, Richardson

SG: Akins, Holloman, Teng

SF: Fidler, Booker, Normand

PF: Booker, Carr


C:Cooper, Kholer


Who am I missing? Seems Izzo has some toys to play with. Final four? Maybe not. But the team won’t suck.

Fears and Holloman have to be leaders.

We have one more scholarship to use on a portal player.
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Post by DWags Tue 23 Apr 2024 - 14:32

NigelUno wrote:
DWags wrote:PG: Fears, Holloman, Richardson

SG: Akins, Holloman, Teng

SF: Fidler, Booker, Normand

PF: Booker, Carr


C:Cooper, Kholer


Who am I missing? Seems Izzo has some toys to play with. Final four? Maybe not. But the team won’t suck.

Fears and Holloman have to be leaders.

We have one more scholarship to use on a portal player.

There aren’t any 5’s out there that are left that are going to be so much better than our two that Izzo would go after imo. So who is out there? He has to be able to rebound and guard a 4&5. I think we have our points out there. I’m hoping for a big jump in Holliman and Fears Where are our rebounds coming from?
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Post by NigelUno Tue 23 Apr 2024 - 14:47

DWags wrote:
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We have one more scholarship to use on a portal player.

There aren’t any 5’s out there that are left that are going to be so much better than our two that Izzo would go after imo. So who is out there? He has to be able to rebound and guard a 4&5. I think we have our points out there. I’m hoping for a big jump in Holliman and Fears Where are our rebounds coming from?

There are still a few 4/5 or 5s that haven't committed. And some guys could still enter the portal. I don't think we let Mady leave without picking up another big. I could be wrong.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Tue 23 Apr 2024 - 15:37

Fidler sounds like getting Hall back for an extra year (with less D?)...
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