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Post by kingstonlake Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 1:12

https://www.michigandaily.com/sports/statement-dave-brandon-regarding-student-athlete-health-and-welfare

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Post by kingstonlake Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 3:17

Wow, nothing like throwing your HC under the bus to try and save your job. You guys knew on Sunday he had a concussion but didn't mention it to the HC before Mondays presser? And why didn't Hoke find out on his own? This is beyond dumpster fire. There are no words. ANY I LOVE EVERY SECOND OF IT!
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Post by Rodeo Burger Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 5:04

As much of a douche as the kid has always been, I still feel sorry for any kid that attends UM.

For the non-retards, it has to be impossible to reconcile what UM allows. It has to hurt the people who aren't morons.

I don't think my concerns come up very much.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 7:27

as a Spartan, it makes me proud to see Spartan Nation concerned with the welfare of this young man...

additionally, I suggest that you consider making a donation to The Brain Trauma Foundation..

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Post by kingstonlake Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 7:44

Robert J Sakimano wrote:as a Spartan, it makes me proud to see Spartan Nation concerned with the welfare of this young man...

additionally, I suggest that you consider making a donation to The Brain Trauma Foundation..

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I care about the welfare of Shane Morris? When?
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Post by SeeRockCity Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 8:02

Robert J Sakimano wrote:as a Spartan, it makes me proud to see Spartan Nation concerned with the welfare of this young man...

additionally, I suggest that you consider making a donation to The Brain Trauma Foundation..

The Brain Trauma Foundation

Thanks Bob.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 8:22

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Thanks Bob.
you're quite welcome..

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Post by Toe Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 9:18

gHost Spartan wrote:I haven't been following and I really don't give a fuck about this story or issue, but why did it take three days for them to tell us that Morris had a concussion? Also, was it the hit by the Minnesota player that the scUM slappies were saying was targeting? Because I saw the GIF and it didn't even look like he hit Morris in the head, it looked just below on the chest.

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Post by InTenSity Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 9:20

I haven't been following and I really don't give a fuck about this story or issue, but why did it take three days for them to tell us that Morris had a concussion? Also, was it the hit by the Minnesota player that the scUM slappies were saying was targeting? Because I saw the GIF and it didn't even look like he hit Morris in the head, it looked just below on the chest.

This is a national news story, it was mentioned last night on at least NBC nightly news and this morning they had a segment on Good Morning America. 

Look, I understand the whole, trying not to look like I care what is happening over at the rivals place, but this is national news, not just the Detroit papers trying to suppress a story. Just embrace it and enjoy the ride of Schembechlerfreud. There's nothing wrong with it and you can be assured that if this were happening at MSU, the whole AD would be crumbling from the amount of pressure they would be receiving.
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Post by Herbie Green Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 9:29

I put aside my annoyance with so many UM threads for this story. If you don't find this interesting you need to check to see if you have a pulse.
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Post by Rocinante Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 9:31

Bob has a good point. The disingenuous concern for this kid is gross. On this side it's rubbernecking, and on the um side it's an excuse to get rid of hoke/Brandon. Kinda disgusting really.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 9:39

Rocinante wrote:Bob has a good point. The disingenuous concern for this kid is gross. On this side it's rubbernecking, and on the um side it's an excuse to get rid of hoke/Brandon. Kinda disgusting really.
are you suggesting that we - the proud and humble Spartan Nation - is not concerned with this young man's well-being..?

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Post by Toe Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 9:43

Rocinante wrote:Bob has a good point. The disingenuous concern for this kid is gross. On this side it's rubbernecking, and on the um side it's an excuse to get rid of hoke/Brandon. Kinda disgusting really.

you're right. if UM was 4-0, their fans wouldn't be talking about this kid at all. sad.
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Post by InTenSity Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 9:43

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are you suggesting that we - the proud and humble Spartan Nation - is not concerned with this young man's well-being..?

No one is concerned about anyone's health. Things may look horrible, and give people a place to stand when something bad happens to a player they like, but most people are more upset that they might not win a game, rather than a person's health. I shouldn't say no one, there are Dr.'s and medical field professional's that work with people that have injuries that probably have concerns, but the average fan only cares about winning and losing.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 10:09

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No one is concerned about anyone's health. Things may look horrible, and give people a place to stand when something bad happens to a player they like, but most people are more upset that they might not win a game, rather than a person's health. I shouldn't say no one, there are Dr.'s and medical field professional's that work with people that have injuries that probably have concerns, but the average fan only cares about winning and losing.
you summed me up perfectly.

as a proud and humble Spartan - I don't care about this kid at all. I only care about them losing.

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Post by Toe Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 10:14

InTenSity wrote:
No one is concerned about anyone's health. Things may look horrible, and give people a place to stand when something bad happens to a player they like, but most people are more upset that they might not win a game, rather than a person's health. I shouldn't say no one, there are Dr.'s and medical field professional's that work with people that have injuries that probably have concerns, but the average fan only cares about winning and losing.

actually you're wrong. the average person/fan does care about the health of players. It the Fanatics who only care about W/L's.

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Post by InTenSity Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 10:20

Toe wrote:

actually you're wrong. the average person/fan does care about the health of players. It the Fanatics who only care about W/L's.

Then I would expect that if I go to a hospital, I'll see all those fan(atics) working with injured HS kids who have concussions or other issues. People don't like seeing the images, but ultimately they don't care that much, if at all. Especially what happens to rival players. Half the NFL world, and all the Dolphins fan(atics)/people would love to see Brady get knocked out of a game. Lets just call a spade a spade, its easier that way.
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Post by Herbie Green Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 10:42

gHost Spartan wrote: I do find it interesting, just not every thread on the front page interesting. It's a shit show in AA, and it's great, we all hate those fu ckers.

Fletch actually had a brilliant post once: "Your opinion is not unique".

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 10:43

Toe wrote:

actually you're wrong. the average person/fan does care about the health of players. It the Fanatics who only care about W/L's.

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Post by Toe Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 11:45

Robert J Sakimano wrote:The Brain Trauma Foundation - Donate Now

done.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 12:07

Toe wrote:

done.

how about you?
donated..

the amount of pride I have in Spartan Nation for our collective concern with regard to Shane Morris is immeasurable.

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Post by kingstonlake Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 12:11

Robert J Sakimano wrote:donated..

the amount of pride I have in Spartan Nation for our collective concern with regard to Shane Morris is immeasurable.


I care enough to wish him well and a speedy recovery. Speedy enough to play on Oct 25th and get his shit pushed in.
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Post by Rocinante Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 12:26

kingstonlake wrote:

I care enough to wish him well and a speedy recovery. Speedy enough to play on Oct 25th and get his shit pushed in.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 12:55

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I care enough to wish him well and a speedy recovery.
you should consider donating..
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Post by kingstonlake Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 13:02

Robert J Sakimano wrote:you should consider donating..

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Post by Rodeo Burger Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 13:30

I'm not giving a dime unless someone dumps cold water on themselves.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 13:37

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you're a great Spartan and I'm blinded by your humility..

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Post by kingstonlake Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 13:49

Robert J Sakimano wrote:you're a great Spartan and I'm blinded by your humility..


I will start a fund that will take donations for a braille keyboard for you. Whatever it takes to keep you posting.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 13:54

kingstonlake wrote:

I will start a fund that will take donations for a braille keyboard for you. Whatever it takes to keep you posting.
I'll do it for Shane Morris.

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Post by kingstonlake Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 14:04

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I'll do it for Shane Morris.


As a non graduate of MSU, I am moderately impressed by your compassion.
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Post by InTenSity Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 14:56

Now a Congressman is asking for an investigation into why Morris went back out.

Why did Morris play?


Sept. 30, 2014
Mr. Jim Delany
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Dear Mr. Delany:
I am writing to express my strong concern with the response to a recent concussion in your Conference. As the co-founder and co-chair of the Congressional Brain Injury Task Force, I urge you to re-evaluate the Big Ten's policies and their implementation in light of what modern medicine has taught us about head injuries.
In the U.S. Congress, the Congressional Brain Injury Task Force, which works to increase awareness of brain injury in the United States, supports research initiatives for rehabilitation and potential cures, and strives to address the effects such injuries have on families, children, education, and the workforce.
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, as many as 3.8 million sports- and recreation-related TBIs are estimated to occur in the United States each year, ranging from relatively mild concussions to fatal head injuries. Though symptoms may appear minor, the injury can have life-long effects on an individual's memory, behavior, learning, and/or emotions.
The threat was on full display during the University of Michigan's (Michigan) game against the University of Minnesota. After Michigan quarterback Shane Morris sustained a brutal hit from a Minnesota player, he struggled to stand up, appeared groggy, and almost collapsed into one of his teammate's arms. Despite exhibiting tell-tale signs of a concussion, Morris was kept in the game for one play, and then hobbled off the field. He later re-entered the game for a short period before leaving the field.
During a press conference on Monday afternoon, Michigan coach Brady Hoke initially stated that he "[didn't] know if [Morris] has a concussion or not." Hoke also stated that "Shane's a pretty competitive, tough kid. And Shane wanted to be the quarterback, and so, believe me, if he didn't want to be, he would've come to the sideline or stayed down." Allowing a possibly concussed player to determine whether or not he is fit to return to play not only violates common sense, but is also an egregious violation of standard concussion protocol, including protocol set forth by the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) and the Big Ten Conference.
In a statement released by Michigan's Athletic Director early Tuesday morning, Michigan revealed that Morris in fact did sustain a concussion and blamed a "lack of communication" as the reason that Morris returned to the game. According to the statement, not one member of the coaching staff, medical staff, or athletic training staff on the sidelines that day saw Morris get hit; so, after having an ankle injury examined, he was cleared for one additional play.
As you know, earlier this year, the NCAA struck a tentative agreement with a group of former players who filed suit against the organization for medical problems stemming from concussions sustained during their college football careers. Under the terms of the settlement, current or former players would be prohibited from filing personal injury class action suits seeking a judgment for long-term medical problems stemming from concussions. Players would still be able to file individual personal injury suits, but these don't typically carry the same power as class action suits. Additionally, none of the settlement funds are used for players' medical costs.
However, as part of the settlement, the NCAA schools would have to follow certain procedures when their players suffer head trauma. One of these procedures prohibits players from being returned to play after a possible concussion on the same day. After the NCAA's new protocols were announced, you touted the fact that the Big Ten had adopted similar protocols in 2010 stating, "It was the safest and broadest plan we could enact. It makes for a healthier game — and that is what everyone wants." I think we both can agree that if protocols can simply be overlooked and ignored, they will be no meaningful impact on the safety of players.
I strongly urge you to investigate the circumstances surrounding Shane Morris's injury and the decision to return him to play. Additionally, I ask that you reexamine the protocols in place and determine what changes can be made to improve them. I also urge you to establish penalties for violations of concussion protocols. Every concussion is brain damage and must be diagnosed and treated by appropriate medical personnel, who prioritize players' health, safety, and well-being.
Thank you in advance for your attention to this matter, and I look forward to your response.
Sincerely,
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Post by Herbie Green Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 15:04

Holy shit! Congress??!!
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I'm glad that things are going so well in America and the world that a congressman can take the time and show such compassion to a football player..
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Post by CORNER BLITZ Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 15:08

InTenSity wrote:Now a Congressman is asking for an investigation into why Morris went back out.

Why did Morris play?

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Post by kingstonlake Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 15:13

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

I'm glad that things are going so well in America and the world that a congressman can take the time and show such compassion to a football player..

Not just any football player. A fine Wolverine and head trauma victim.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 15:15

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Not just any football player. A fine Wolverine and head trauma victim.
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Post by Herbie Green Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 15:18

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

I'm glad that things are going so well in America and the world that a congressman can take the time and show such compassion to a football player..

In reality it is probably more productive than anything anyone else in Congress has done today. Dude is chair of brain injury task force so this is relevant to his interests.
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Post by Heat Miser Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 15:22

Herbie Green wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:

I'm glad that things are going so well in America and the world that a congressman can take the time and show such compassion to a football player..

In reality it is probably more productive than anything anyone else in Congress has done today. Dude is chair of brain injury task force so this is relevant to his interests.

I was wondering what the connection was. This makes sense now.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Tue 30 Sep 2014 - 15:22

Herbie Green wrote:

In reality it is probably more productive than anything anyone else in Congress has done today. Dude is chair of brain injury task force so this is relevant to his interests.
good point.

maybe when he's finished with Shane Morris, he can check on Sarah Palin.

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