Frank. He gone.

duffy is getting all kinds of abuse in this thread. We need to make him a mod, or give him a fancy badge or something.

This thread went completely differently than I expected.

NigelUno wrote:duffy is getting all kinds of abuse in this thread. We need to make him a mod, or give him a fancy badge or something.

Do I need to make more light of domestic violence to fit in ?

duffy munn wrote:

Do I need to make more light of domestic violence to fit in ?

I think it was in a hotel though. Does that really count?

NigelUno wrote:

I think it was in a hotel though. Does that really count?

Wow. Do you have daughters ? why is this shit funny ?

Heat Miser wrote:

What does that have to do with thread locking? Nothing. Has a lot to do with obsession though.

this..

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Neither of them were arrested for anything, right?

So, that's probably the difference.

Cops were involved for both Gibbons and Lewan, if they were black would they have been booked?

Robert J Sakimano wrote:this..

Robert J Sakimano wrote:this..

No. It has to do with disgust over a giant man hitting a tiny woman.

Freaking college football has nothing to do with it. At least for me.

Again, think about your daughter and your reaction to this if it was her.

duffy munn wrote:

No. It has to do with disgust over a giant man hitting a tiny woman.

Freaking college football has nothing to do with it. At least for me.

Again, think about your daughter and your reaction to this if it was her.

I was replying to Heat Miser...

dude, are you feeling ok today?

Robert J Sakimano wrote:



I was replying to Heat Miser...

dude, are you feeling ok today?

I'm fine. Keep ducking direct questions and carry on.

duffy munn wrote:

I'm fine. Keep ducking direct questions and carry on.

okay, good.. was just checking. Was a bit concerned. You seem unusually irritable.

duffy munn wrote:

Wow. Do you have daughters ? why is this shit funny ?

I don't. Thank God.

Settle down. I think Bob is just making a point (maybe a good one) that we only seem concerned about this because it happened to a Michigan player. While, that is probably not the case, it does seem that way since we talk about Michigan here a lot.

duffy munn wrote:

No. It has to do with disgust over a giant man hitting a tiny woman.

Freaking college football has nothing to do with it. At least for me.

Again, think about your daughter and your reaction to this if it was her.

yeah, this scares the hell out of me for what I'd do if it was my daughter. I'm sure my wife and friends could talk me down perhaps, but my first reaction would be to kill the person who did this. I'm not joking when I say I'd really want to kill the person who beat up my daughter.

Maybe I should get rid of my guns. They only cause more problems.

NigelUno wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

Wow. Do you have daughters ? why is this shit funny ?

I don't. Thank God.

Settle down. I think Bob is just making a point (maybe a good one) that we only seem concerned about this because it happened to a Michigan player. While, that is probably not the case, it does seem that way since we talk about Michigan here a lot.

That is exactly the case. But this is not a domestic violence watchdog website. It's a Michigan State website & thus things related to MSU (yes Bob, including our rival SCum) get more attention than those that aren't.

I'm sure there were dozens of domestic violence arrests across the country over the weekend. While we're all sympathetic to the victims, we're not gonna start threads about any of them unless they're connected to us somehow.

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NigelUno wrote:

I don't. Thank God.

Settle down. I think Bob is just making a point (maybe a good one) that we only seem concerned about this because it happened to a Michigan player. While, that is probably not the case, it does seem that way since we talk about Michigan here a lot.

Duffy, though likely very well-intentioned, seems a little misguided with his emotions regarding this thread..

Heat Miser wrote:

That is exactly the case. But this is not a domestic violence watchdog website. It's a Michigan State website & thus things related to MSU (yes Bob, including our rival SCum) get more attention than those that aren't.

I'm sure there were dozens of domestic violence arrests across the country over the weekend. While we're all sympathetic to the victims, we're not gonna start threads about any of them unless they're connected to us somehow.

and nothing connects me more to the tragedy of domestic violence than my disgust for U of M football..

duffy munn wrote:

Bob is making light of the situation and I find it offensive. Sorry.

Ah, so someone offended you on the internet during your little faux outrage episode....

DWags wrote:

duffy munn wrote:

No. It has to do with disgust over a giant man hitting a tiny woman.

Freaking college football has nothing to do with it. At least for me.

Again, think about your daughter and your reaction to this if it was her.

yeah, this scares the hell out of me for what I'd do if it was my daughter. I'm sure my wife and friends could talk me down perhaps, but my first reaction would be to kill the person who did this. I'm not joking when I say I'd really want to kill the person who beat up my daughter.

Maybe I should get rid of my guns. They only cause more problems.

I have a niece whose been hit on multiple occasions by her baby daddy. Scrawny little smart mouth walverine shit who is no longer allowed anywhere near or entire family because:

1. obviously he's an abuser and we're not going to enable that.
2. said niece's father & 3 uncles would likely put the little fucker in the hospital.

When he sees the niece and baby either she goes to him or he waits in the car for her to come out (don't get me started on why she continues to see him ).

P.S. this is one reason I don't own guns. Everyone has a button.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Heat Miser wrote:

That is exactly the case. But this is not a domestic violence watchdog website. It's a Michigan State website & thus things related to MSU (yes Bob, including our rival SCum) get more attention than those that aren't.

I'm sure there were dozens of domestic violence arrests across the country over the weekend. While we're all sympathetic to the victims, we're not gonna start threads about any of them unless they're connected to us somehow.

and nothing connects me more to the tragedy of domestic violence than my disgust for U of M football..

Or ESPN or any of the Blue Wall rags for that matter. I don't see any of them writing multiple articles about random domestic violence arrests from this weekend. Take comfort in the fact that you're not alone in your disgust. Rage Bob. Rage against that machine.

[quote="Heat Miser"]

Well, if you get so angry that the thought of actually pulling out a gun and killing someone you love pops into your head, I'd say you probably shouldn't own a gun.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:and nothing connects me more to the tragedy of domestic violence than my disgust for U of M football..

While some may get some kind of sick joy out of the fact that the guy is a uofm football player, if they step back and think for a moment, they'd see that it has nothing to do with that whatsoever.   I do believe this is a legitimate issue for our board.  I'd like to see stiffer penalties  for conviction and we all need to advertise this more.  Starting with every board we're on.   I'm hoping Bob, that if it was an MSU player, we'd all be as outraged for an act of a Linebacker who benches 320 LB's and runs a 4.5 40, beating up a 5'2" 110 lb female.

Heat Miser wrote:

I have a niece whose been hit on multiple occasions by her baby daddy. Scrawny little smart mouth walverine shit who is no longer allowed anywhere near or entire family because:

1. obviously he's an abuser and we're not going to enable that.
2. said niece's father & 3 uncles would likely put the little fucker in the hospital.

When he sees the niece and baby either she goes to him or he waits in the car for her to come out (don't get me started on why she continues to see him ).

P.S. this is one reason I don't own guns. Everyone has a button.

Yeah, I worry about this constantly. I'd definately need to be talked off the ledge.

[quote="The_Dude"]

Heat Miser wrote:

Well, if you get so angry that the thought of actually pulling out a gun and killing someone you love pops into your head, I'd say you probably shouldn't own a gun.

How did you draw that conclusion? I don't give two shits about that little fucker.

DWags wrote:

Yeah, I worry about this constantly. I'd definately need to be talked off the ledge.

As long as we are being honest, if you raised your daughters to be self-sufficient and not have to rely on men to pay their bills, the odds of her not finding a loser boyfriend goes up ten fold. Most people stay in abusive relationships because their other option is being homeless. Not always the case, but it normally is.

Based on what I know of you Wags, you very likely did a great job raising your daughters and beat into their heads they should be strong and independent.

[quote="Heat Miser"]

NVM--I thought it was in reference to possibly getting drunk like Frank and pulling out your piece on your wife/gf.

NigelUno wrote:

I don't.  Thank God.

Settle down.  I think Bob is just making a point (maybe a good one) that we only seem concerned about this because it happened to a Michigan player.  While, that is probably not the case, it does seem that way since we talk about Michigan here a lot.

I know everything about you.  How do I know everything about you?

I read your posts on an anonymous message board.

Heat Miser wrote:

Or ESPN or any of the Blue Wall rags for that matter. I don't see any of them writing multiple articles about random domestic violence arrests from this weekend. Take comfort in the fact that you're not alone in your disgust. Rage Bob. Rage against that machine.

I would laugh at this.. however, someone might take it as me making light of domestic violence..

DWags wrote:

While some may get some kind of sick joy out of the fact that the guy is a uofm football player, if they step back and think for a moment, they'd see that it has nothing to do with that whatsoever.   I do believe this is a legitimate issue for our board.  I'd like to see stiffer penalties  for conviction and we all need to advertise this more.  Starting with every board we're on.   I'm hoping Bob, that if it was an MSU player, we'd all be as outraged for an act of a Linebacker who benches 320 LB's and runs a 4.5 40, beating up a 5'2" 110 lb female.

I hope so too.. but I doubt it.

The_Dude wrote:

As long as we are being honest, if you raised your daughters to be self-sufficient and not have to rely on men to pay their bills, the odds of her not finding a loser boyfriend goes up ten fold. Most people stay in abusive relationships because their other option is being homeless. Not always the case, but it normally is.

Based on what I know of you Wags, you very likely did a great job raising your daughters and beat into their heads they should be strong and independent.

yes, I hope that is so, however, we've all heard the stories of guys just losing it. There are the Eddy Haskels out there who can fool you for a while. I know odds are longer for "staying" in an abusive relationship, but the initial beating that would send many of our daughters away from the asshole, still happens. And that is what I worry about.

Toe wrote:


I know everything about you.  How do I know everything about you?

I read your posts on an anonymous message board.

NigelUno wrote:

now I know you like SPAM.  see how easy this is?

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I hope so too.. but I doubt it.

That's a scary thought. Can't say I don't agree with you in regards to some of the posters who are so blinded by the thought of victories etc from our teams. I'm fairly confident I'd be outraged. I'd put it at 99% or above. Lets say it's like Kirk Cousins (did you all know he got married recently?), and we got this story today. I'd probably say, well, can we wait and see just a minute first? If it came out like it did for Clark with strong evidence against him, I know I'd be just as disgusted.

Bottom line, we need to have more threads on guys like Rice and Clark, not less and we shouldnt' hold back in discussing this issue because they're from a rival and it seems untowardly for us to do so.

Heat Miser wrote:

That is exactly the case. But this is not a domestic violence watchdog website. It's a Michigan State website & thus things related to MSU (yes Bob, including our rival SCum) get more attention than those that aren't.

I'm sure there were dozens of domestic violence arrests across the country over the weekend. While we're all sympathetic to the victims, we're not gonna start threads about any of them unless they're connected to us somehow.

I think that was my point. Not really sure any more.

Toe wrote:
now I know you like SPAM.  see how easy this is?

DWags wrote:

That's a scary thought.   Can't say I don't agree with you in regards to some of the posters who are so blinded by the thought of victories etc from our teams.   I'm fairly confident I'd be outraged.   I'd put it at 99% or above.    Lets say it's like Kirk Cousins (did you all know he got married recently?), and we got this story today.  I'd probably say, well, can we wait and see just a minute first?   If it came out like it did for Clark with strong evidence against him, I know I'd be just as disgusted.

Bottom line, we need to have more threads on guys like Rice and Clark, not less  and we shouldnt' hold back in discussing this issue because they're from a rival and it seems untowardly for us to do so.  

Kirk Cousins may be the greatest living American.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I hope so too.. but I doubt it.

what's to doubt? I mean, you have all the proof you need.


a few posts on a message board.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Kirk Cousins may be the greatest living American.

And Mrs. Cleaver thought Eddy Haskel was. Even if he was a bit rough on the beaver.

NigelUno wrote:

dude, you're an open book......



I don't see you posting otherwise, so I have to believe it's true:

NigelUno = a junk food eating alcoholic.

Toe wrote:


dude, you're an open book......



I don't see you posting otherwise, so I have to believe it's true:

NigelUno = a junk food eating alcoholic.

I don't think spam is junk food, and drinking beer doesn't make me an alcoholic.

Your skills need work.