Re: Lafeyette or American Coney Island?

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:39 am

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by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue Apr 16, 2024 7:43 am

tGreenWay wrote:
duffy munn wrote:There was Lafayette or American Coney in EL?

I think it was in the old Taco Bell location (the stand-alone building) or somewhere close to there. If I had to guess it was American, but maybe it was neither of those… maybe National.

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by AvgMSUJoe Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:22 am

The Pantry wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:Never been to either. Whenever I drive downtown, its going "to" something which is not hot dog level dining.
So, you've never been to a baseball game?

Probably had a dog AT a game... but those aren't the coneys. Actually, I had an american coney in Las Vegas once. (lol)

by **MiamiSpartan** Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:00 am

duffy munn wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

I think it was in the old Taco Bell location (the stand-alone building) or somewhere close to there. If I had to guess it was American, but maybe it was neither of those… maybe National.

Now it kinda rings a bell but certain it was not Lafayette or American. Anyway, Sparty's makes a damn good coney here in mid michigan

It's been 25+ years, but doesn't (or didn't) Sparty's have Flint Style and Detroit Style on their menu? I don't know if Lansing in general or Sparty's specifically has its own coney style, but as a Flint guy I always liked going there and getting the Flint style that I grew up on.

by **duffy munn** Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:04 am

MiamiSpartan wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Now it kinda rings a bell but certain it was not Lafayette or American. Anyway, Sparty's makes a damn good coney here in mid michigan

It's been 25+ years, but doesn't (or didn't) Sparty's have Flint Style and Detroit Style on their menu? I don't know if Lansing in general or Sparty's specifically has its own coney style, but as a Flint guy I always liked going there and getting the Flint style that I grew up on.

Yep. Both Detroit and Flint style and both are very good.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:13 am

MiamiSpartan wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Now it kinda rings a bell but certain it was not Lafayette or American. Anyway, Sparty's makes a damn good coney here in mid michigan

It's been 25+ years, but doesn't (or didn't) Sparty's have Flint Style and Detroit Style on their menu? I don't know if Lansing in general or Sparty's specifically has its own coney style, but as a Flint guy I always liked going there and getting the Flint style that I grew up on.

what constitutes a "Flint style" and a "Detroit style"?

(serious question).

by **tGreenWay** Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:24 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
MiamiSpartan wrote:

It's been 25+ years, but doesn't (or didn't) Sparty's have Flint Style and Detroit Style on their menu? I don't know if Lansing in general or Sparty's specifically has its own coney style, but as a Flint guy I always liked going there and getting the Flint style that I grew up on.
what constitutes a "Flint style" and a "Detroit style"?

(serious question).

Warning: Bob is about to go from a 32/32 to a 38/32. .

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:25 am

tGreenWay wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: what constitutes a "Flint style" and a "Detroit style"?

(serious question).

Warning: Bob is about to go from a 32/32 to a 38/32. .

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by **duffy munn** Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:40 am

tGreenWay wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: what constitutes a "Flint style" and a "Detroit style"?

(serious question).

Warning: Bob is about to go from a 32/32 to a 38/32. .

Detroit sauce in more soupy while Flint is more meaty.(neither sauce should ever be considered Chilli) And I know your body is your temple Bob but it wouldn't kill ya to eat an occasional coney. It's a Michigan thing.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:50 pm

duffy munn wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Warning: Bob is about to go from a 32/32 to a 38/32. .

Detroit sauce in more soupy while Flint is more meaty.(neither sauce should ever be considered Chilli) And I know your body is your temple Bob but it wouldn't kill ya to eat an occasional coney. It's a Michigan thing.

I'll see what I can do.

Was at Dagwood's on Saturday - whoever was rockin' tunes on the jukebox played "Thunder Road" and then it went right into "Atlantic City" - even my wife goes, "did you play music"? Lafeyette or American Coney Island? - Page 2 502811600

I was like "no, but somebody in here knows what's up".

by Rick Saunders Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:05 pm

duffy munn wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Warning: Bob is about to go from a 32/32 to a 38/32. .

Detroit sauce in more soupy while Flint is more meaty.(neither sauce should ever be considered Chilli) And I know your body is your temple Bob but it wouldn't kill ya to eat an occasional coney. It's a Michigan thing.

I grew up in Michigan. Went to MSU. Drank Kalamazoo Stout when it came with hand printed labels. Never had or heard what you guys are talking about until the old other board.

by **The Pantry** Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:58 pm

duffy munn wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Warning: Bob is about to go from a 32/32 to a 38/32. .

Detroit sauce in more soupy while Flint is more meaty.(neither sauce should ever be considered Chilli) And I know your body is your temple Bob but it wouldn't kill ya to eat an occasional coney. It's a Michigan thing.

Correct. Flint style topping is denser, made with beef heart, and less sloppy (easier to eat) than Detroit style. Koegel makes what I consider the best hot dog. They also sell Flint style coney topping.

There is also a Jackson, MI style coney/topping. Forget what's in it. Dendro might know.

by **duffy munn** Tue Apr 16, 2024 9:15 pm

The Pantry wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Detroit sauce in more soupy while Flint is more meaty.(neither sauce should ever be considered Chilli) And I know your body is your temple Bob but it wouldn't kill ya to eat an occasional coney. It's a Michigan thing.
Correct. Flint style topping is denser, made with beef heart, and less sloppy (easier to eat) than Detroit style. Koegel makes what I consider the best hot dog. They also sell Flint style coney topping.

There is also a Jackson, MI style coney/topping. Forget what's in it. Dendro might know.

Koegel Vienna's are the best hot dogs on the planet

by **The Pantry** Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:47 pm

duffy munn wrote:
The Pantry wrote:
Correct. Flint style topping is denser, made with beef heart, and less sloppy (easier to eat) than Detroit style. Koegel makes what I consider the best hot dog. They also sell Flint style coney topping.

There is also a Jackson, MI style coney/topping. Forget what's in it. Dendro might know.

Koegel Vienna's are the best hot dogs on the planet

Detroit area grocery chain called Nino Salvaggio's. New locations and have ramped upscale over the last 30+ years. Make their own bread as well as selling other vendors.

Nino's makes the best hot dog buns I've had. Nothing like the sponginess/fall apart of most commercial. Have a bit of chew to them. Plop a Koegel Vienna into one with topping(s) of choice (usually mustard and onions) is sort of nirvanic to me.

by **tGreenWay** Tue Apr 16, 2024 10:59 pm

Yeah, it’s not a Coney, but I’ll never understand the draw of a Chicago-style dog. Way too much going on in there:

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by **The Pantry** Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:30 pm

^^^Can someone please explain WTF a sport pepper is?

by **tGreenWay** Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:31 am

The Pantry wrote:^^^Can someone please explain WTF a sport pepper is?

Beats the feck out of me. I enjoy Chicago but that dog is just bizarre.

by **DWags** Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:55 am

The Pantry wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Koegel Vienna's are the best hot dogs on the planet
Detroit area grocery chain called Nino Salvaggio's. New locations and have ramped upscale over the last 30+ years. Make their own bread as well as selling other vendors.

Nino's makes the best hot dog buns I've had. Nothing like the sponginess/fall apart of most commercial. Have a bit of chew to them. Plop a Koegel Vienna into one with topping(s) of choice (usually mustard and onions) is sort of nirvanic to me.

There’s a place in eastern market where you can buy the frozen Lafayette stuff. I’ve probably walked by those buns at Nino’s for 25 years and never thought of it. I’ll get some next time.

by **duffy munn** Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:54 am

tGreenWay wrote:Yeah, it’s not a Coney, but I’ll never understand the draw of a Chicago-style dog. Way too much going on in there:

Both my parents are from Chicago ( I was born there and moved to Michigan when I was 6). My mom made these all the time and I love them.

by **Floyd Robertson** Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:18 am

duffy munn wrote:
The Pantry wrote:
Correct. Flint style topping is denser, made with beef heart, and less sloppy (easier to eat) than Detroit style. Koegel makes what I consider the best hot dog. They also sell Flint style coney topping.

There is also a Jackson, MI style coney/topping. Forget what's in it. Dendro might know.

Koegel Vienna's are the best hot dogs on the planet

There was a time 40-50 years that Salay's out of Flint made Viennas even better than Koegel but I'm not sure they're even in business anymore.

by **Floyd Robertson** Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:18 am

The Pantry wrote:^^^Can someone please explain WTF a sport pepper is?

It's probably like a fun size Three Musketeers, a small pepper, just for sport.

by **MiamiSpartan** Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:10 am

Floyd Robertson wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Koegel Vienna's are the best hot dogs on the planet

There was a time 40-50 years that Salay's out of Flint made Viennas even better than Koegel but I'm not sure they're even in business anymore.

Doesn't ring a bell for me, but I was a little kid 40-50 years ago, and probably didn't become aware of what brand I was eating until my late teens.

I'm not a food snob about many things, but Koegel's are one thing that I am. I'm forever spoiled.

by **MiamiSpartan** Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:17 am

tGreenWay wrote:Yeah, it’s not a Coney, but I’ll never understand the draw of a Chicago-style dog. Way too much going on in there:

Chile (where my wife was born) has a hot dog called a "completo". Ketchup, mustard, onions...but then tomatoes, mashed Avocado, mayo, and maybe something else. No thank you.

But I remember when we were there and we stopped in a little hot dog shop, and when I asked (well, my wife translated for me) for just ketchup and mustard, they looked at me like I had 3 heads. And then all the workers had a good laugh at the gringo and his silly hot dog.

by **Floyd Robertson** Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:31 am

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

There was a time 40-50 years that Salay's out of Flint made Viennas even better than Koegel but I'm not sure they're even in business anymore.
Doesn't ring a bell for me, but I was a little kid 40-50 years ago, and probably didn't become aware of what brand I was eating until my late teens.

I'm not a food snob about many things, but Koegel's are one thing that I am. I'm forever spoiled.

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by Zurn Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:41 am

Detroit? Flint?

How about Muskegon style: G&L

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:21 am

also, "Lafayette or American" makes this thread sound like a showdown in the Patriot League featuring the Lafayette Leopards versus the Eagles from American University.

by **Robert J Sakimano** Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:23 am

one more thing before my first nap of the day... here's Coney Island - Taylor Swift - the single most threatening individual to insecure white men across the country, featuring the same band at the top of this page, The National.

by **Nordic** Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:29 am

Robert J Sakimano wrote:also, "Lafayette or American" makes this thread sound like a showdown in the Patriot League featuring the Lafayette Leopards versus the Eagles from American University.

Coneys are serious business

by Rick Saunders Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:01 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:also, "Lafayette or American" makes this thread sound like a showdown in the Patriot League featuring the Lafayette Leopards versus the Eagles from American University.

Alright I'm team Lafayette then.

by **The Pantry** Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:50 pm

Floyd Robertson wrote:
The Pantry wrote:^^^Can someone please explain WTF a sport pepper is?

It's probably like a fun size Three Musketeers, a small pepper, just for sport.

Nino's sells pretty much every type of pepper...best place to shop when planning to make chili. Have never seen anything called a sport pepper there. Would like to know what species of pepper is considered "sport" in a Chicago dog.

by **The Pantry** Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:09 pm

DWags wrote:
The Pantry wrote:Detroit area grocery chain called Nino Salvaggio's. New locations and have ramped upscale over the last 30+ years. Make their own bread as well as selling other vendors.

Nino's makes the best hot dog buns I've had. Nothing like the sponginess/fall apart of most commercial. Have a bit of chew to them. Plop a Koegel Vienna into one with topping(s) of choice (usually mustard and onions) is sort of nirvanic to me.

There’s a place in eastern market where you can buy the frozen Lafayette stuff. I’ve probably walked by those buns at Nino’s for 25 years and never thought of it. I’ll get some next time.

Nino's buns would slow those guys down at the 4th eating contest. Nino's sells 1.5# tubs of National sauce in the hot dog fridge case.

by **NigelUno** Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:47 pm

The Pantry wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

It's probably like a fun size Three Musketeers, a small pepper, just for sport.
Nino's sells pretty much every type of pepper...best place to shop when planning to make chili. Have never seen anything called a sport pepper there. Would like to know what species of pepper is considered "sport" in a Chicago dog.

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by **tGreenWay** Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:49 pm

duffy munn wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:Yeah, it’s not a Coney, but I’ll never understand the draw of a Chicago-style dog. Way too much going on in there:

Both my parents are from Chicago ( I was born there and moved to Michigan when I was 6). My mom made these all the time and I love them.

They just seem… wrong. But I’m all about personal tastes and if you like them, that’s all that matters.

by **The Pantry** Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:57 pm

Looked up Jackson coneys. They may be the origin of the Flint coney...since 1914.

Jackson Coney Island

Interesting website but appears the owners have retired

JACKSON CONEY ISLAND MEAT SAUCE

Scottish Highland cattle are bad M-F'ers. They'll eat pretty much anything including very thorny brush.

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by **duffy munn** Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:24 pm

tGreenWay wrote:
duffy munn wrote:

Both my parents are from Chicago ( I was born there and moved to Michigan when I was 6). My mom made these all the time and I love them.

They just seem… wrong. But I’m all about personal tastes and if you like them, that’s all that matters.

I can see this Greenway. I started eating them as a really little kid and remember being a touch skeptical. But when Mom cooked you best eat it or one of your 9 siblings will. To this day I put celery salt on any hot dog that's not a coney

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:28 pm

Gimme a pickle, some sport peppers, onions, celery salt, then cover the whole thing in ketchup so much that you can’t see anything underneath. Yum I say

by **kingstonlake** Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:32 pm

MiamiSpartan wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

There was a time 40-50 years that Salay's out of Flint made Viennas even better than Koegel but I'm not sure they're even in business anymore.
Doesn't ring a bell for me, but I was a little kid 40-50 years ago, and probably didn't become aware of what brand I was eating until my late teens.

I'm not a food snob about many things, but Koegel's are one thing that I am. I'm forever spoiled.

Still hurts my heart that Angelos isn’t around anymore.

by **duffy munn** Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:36 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote: then cover the whole thing in ketchup so much that you can’t see anything underneath. Yum I say

Dude

by **Travis of the Cosmos** Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:46 pm

by **duffy munn** Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:06 pm

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

This is not ok Travis

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