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Post by steveschneider 2015-07-31, 15:48

Mets ownership is so friggin stupid though, you guys don't understand how dumb they are. They are run by the Matt Millen equivalent in baseball. They could easily blow this.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-07-31, 15:52

It happened. Waiting to find out hte return.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-07-31, 15:53

No Wheeler.
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 15:55

2 RHP Minor leaguers.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-07-31, 15:56

Fuller and Cessa. Steve?
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 15:57

Bob Wojnowski retweeted
tOfficial 2015 Detroit Tigers thread - Page 13 On_I0jLz_bigger Jennifer Hammond@HammerFox2 34s35 seconds ago
Fuller and Cessa are the players on receiving end for #Tigers in Cespedes deal.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-07-31, 15:59

Fuller is old.

http://www.amazinavenue.com/2013/9/26/4760452/new-york-mets-pitching-prospects-jim-fuller-scouting-report
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 16:00

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=cessa-001lui
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-07-31, 16:00

Wojo is saying there's a Fulmer in their system. Hopefully it's him, not the old guy.
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 16:01

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Fuller is old.

http://www.amazinavenue.com/2013/9/26/4760452/new-york-mets-pitching-prospects-jim-fuller-scouting-report
Betcha it's Fulmer not Fuller.
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Post by steveschneider 2015-07-31, 16:01

Got Fuller and Cessa?

Never heard of them.
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher 2015-07-31, 16:02

Ok, much better. 

http://www.pressconnects.com/story/sports/2015/07/28/fulmer-fantastic-mets-shut-rock-cats/30815161/
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 16:02

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=fulmer002mic
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Post by steveschneider 2015-07-31, 16:03

It's supposed to be two right handers...that one you linked to is a lefty.
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 16:04

Bob Wojnowski@bobwojnowski 28s28 seconds ago
RHP Michael Fulmer makes more sense for Tigers in Cespedes trade. He's Mets' 7th-rated prospect. Luis Cessa is 16th. Not bad return.
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Post by GRR Spartan 2015-07-31, 16:05

Tigers have done alright.

Got multiple players that is better than shot in the dark draft choices that might not be ready for 3-4 years if they didn't trade.

Anything to get more pitchers is a good thing and JaCoby Jones might be an alternative at 3rd.
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 16:05

Joel Sherman@Joelsherman1 2m2 minutes ago
#Mets gave up Fulmer and Cessa for Cespedes #Tigers
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 16:13

Jeff Passan@JeffPassan 7m7 minutes ago
Tigers clean up at the deadline. Daniel Norris and Michael Fulmer, who @Joelsherman1 says is coming for Cespedes, potential frontline guys.
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 16:14

Jon Morosi@jonmorosi 2m2 minutes ago
Michael Fulmer is what the Tigers needed for Cespedes: a starter with swing-and-miss stuff who could impact their 2016 rotation.
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Post by steveschneider 2015-07-31, 16:17

We've picked up 5 prospects.

The stats for starters are 1/3 make it to the big leagues, 1/3 get traded and 1/3 don't make it.

Tigers freed up some money, got some players back for the farm system and if they can re-sign Yoenis at the end of the season then it's been a great 'reboot' imo.

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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 16:31

steveschneider wrote:We've picked up 5 prospects.

The stats for starters are 1/3 make it to the big leagues, 1/3 get traded and 1/3 don't make it.

Tigers freed up some money, got some players back for the farm system and if they can re-sign Yoenis at the end of the season then it's been a great 'reboot' imo.

5 Pitchers - 1 SS/2B/CF - And as many as 4 of the pitchers supposedly could be MLB ready by spring so that's pretty good.

Fulmer  & Cessa in this deal
Norris, Boyd & LaBourt in the Price deal
Jacoby Jones in the Soria deal.

LaBourt went to Lakeland the other pitchers will either be in MLB, AAA or AA but supposedly ready by spring.

Jones a possible replacement for Kinsler, platoon partner for Gose or trade bait.

Depending on clearing waivers they still could trade Simon, Avila and Rajai for more lower level type prospects.
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 16:38

@Ken_Rosenthal 1m1 minute ago

One rival exec calls RHP Michael Fulmer, going from #Mets to #Tigers, an “unbelievable get for a rental” (Cespedes).
Fuller was 44th overall pick in the 2011 draft. Of course, #Mets quite deep in young pitching.
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 16:43

Neil Weinberg ‏@NeilWeinberg44 33s33 seconds ago
Tigers turned the last year of Rick Porcello into 4 WAR year from Yo, Alex Wilson, Fulmer, Cessa, and Speier.


@BenBadler 3m3 minutes ago (BA)
Michael Fulmer, going to the Tigers, was the Mets' No. 5 prospect. Heavy fastball up to mid-90s with a plus slider, pounds the strike zone.

@MarcCarig 2m2 minutes ago
Scout on Fulmer recently says development has taken a jump. Won't be long until MLB ready. Legit mid rotation guy.
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Post by HT 2015-07-31, 16:47

I'm very happy with the Tigers' moves this deadline. Frees up some money, adds to what was the worst farm system in MLB, and gives a much better return than the two draft picks they would have gotten for losing Price and Cespedes to free agency.

There are some nice pieces. In particular, I really like the influx of young pitching talent into the farm system. They won't all pan out, but at the very worst, the Tigers have some trade chips to use.
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Post by steveschneider 2015-07-31, 16:50

HT wrote:I'm very happy with the Tigers' moves this deadline. Frees up some money, adds to what was the worst farm system in MLB, and gives a much better return than the two draft picks they would have gotten for losing Price and Cespedes to free agency.

There are some nice pieces. In particular, I really like the influx of young pitching talent into the farm system. They won't all pan out, but at the very worst, the Tigers have some trade chips to use.

If Cespedes returns to Detroit as expected, Tigers got him, Wilson, three prospects for Porcello. Yikes. - Tony Paul
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Post by kingstonlake 2015-07-31, 16:51

Hearing Avila for Cardinals minor league batting cage.
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Post by steveschneider 2015-07-31, 17:09

LooseGoose wrote:@Ken_Rosenthal 1m1 minute ago

One rival exec calls RHP Michael Fulmer, going from #Mets to #Tigers, an “unbelievable get for a rental” (Cespedes).
Fuller was 44th overall pick in the 2011 draft. Of course, #Mets quite deep in young pitching.

Mets are seriously the Lions of MLB.

Also, the Wilponds lost so much of their money in the Bernie Madoff deal they are dead broke. They literally hit gold with their rotation they have, but it's highly doubtful they are able to re-sign Yoenis.

Two things that could go against us: latin stars in Queens tend to blow up big, he may achieve a new level of celebrity.

That being said, the Mets are the equivalent of the Detroit Lions. Every year they find a way to blow it.

Over all I like our chances of getting Yoenis back.
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2015-07-31, 17:17

So how long until the Tigers are contenders again?
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Post by Rocinante 2015-07-31, 17:18

Floyd Robertson wrote:So how long until the Tigers are contenders again?

Like... today.
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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2015-07-31, 17:27

Floyd Robertson wrote:So how long until the Tigers are contenders again?

F this noise, we are still in the wildcard hunt baby!
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2015-07-31, 17:44

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:So how long until the Tigers are contenders again?

F this noise, we are still in the wildcard hunt baby!

Technically, yeah. MLB actually predicts losing to the Os 3-0 in the ALDS.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/postseason-picture/
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 17:58

Our top 30 prospects now re-ranked:

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2015?list=det
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Post by HT 2015-07-31, 18:20

Floyd Robertson wrote:So how long until the Tigers are contenders again?

It's not unreasonable to think that they could contend as soon as next year.
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Post by steveschneider 2015-07-31, 19:21

HT wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:So how long until the Tigers are contenders again?

It's not unreasonable to think that they could contend as soon as next year.

Still a lot of work to do. Definitely going to have to add at least one more quality pitcher.
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Post by steveschneider 2015-07-31, 19:32

1-0 Detroit. Hoping Farmer can go 6 innings.
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Post by steveschneider 2015-07-31, 19:38

2-0
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Post by The Pantry 2015-07-31, 19:53

Kinsler on. Let's see if he gets picked off again
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Post by steveschneider 2015-07-31, 19:57

The Pantry wrote:Kinsler on. Let's see if he gets picked off again

4-0
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Post by steveschneider 2015-07-31, 20:12

5-0

I like our chances to hit the over.

Wow 6-0!!!
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Post by Guest 2015-07-31, 21:05

Krol is a walking gas can coming out of the BP.
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