The Drugs Thread

[xsanguine]

I really did take like 20 seconds and searched but could not find any thread dedicated to drugs. If it exists, oh well fuck it. Let's leave the politics out of it. The legalization, the police and all that dumb stuff. I mean, I guess unless it REALLY has something to do with your point... but if it any promotes some discussion on pro/con then I hope someone in your place of residence cuts you ('m just kidding). But nor judging, besides the inevitable judging of me.

More so looking for reviews of your favorite drugs. Maybe what you're into recently or maybe some nostalgia or something.

What are your top 10 favorite drugs of all time? Mine are:

1. Heroin
2. Marijuana
3. Psilocybic mushrooms
4. Oxycodone
5. Opium
6. Molly
7. Ecstasy
8. Tobacco
9. Ketamine
10. Cocaine

I technically no longer devlve into anything 6-10, or rather wouldn't. Since I haven't delved into #1 in over a year.

When I take plane rides I take 2mg Xanax about 20 minutes before take off if it's international. If it's domestic I might take 1 mg... but I'll be groggy. Anything less than 1mg has no affect on me. I recently injured my ankle and I never ask because I fear getting labeled some sort of pill seeker but it just hurt sooooo bad. So I ask for something and guess what they gave me? Tramadol. Fucking tramadol. Come on.... I fell 30 ft... lucky to god nothing is broken but I fell 30 ft and you're going to give me Tramadol? I'd be disappointed with vicodin but I'd understand it.
Yes, there's an opiate epidemic... but let's not go back to under prescribing people who need pain medication. I should be able to name what I want to take and the doctor should prescribe it unless he can prove I'm harmful to myself or others or exhibit addictive behaviors (and I don't even really believe this... but it'd be preferable).
Tramadol. Isn't that like 2 levels higher than OTC Tylenol?
Didn't some of you guys pull a back muscle and got percocets? The fuck is up. I mean, I can order them online and have them by Monday... but it's the principle of the matter. There's people in real pain, REAL fucking pain and not only do you have the resources to cure that pain.... you refuse to make these people feel better because people will also take it recreationally.

Anyways.... really looking to take a shroom trip soon.... I've got some deep stuff that I need to deal with and it's the perfect time to clean out the cobwebs. I think I'll head to the same point on the Pere Marquette I was at a few days ago. Maybe walk the dirt roads or trails around there. Supposedly I have a friend holding some acid he got for me (he's one of those raver types that goes to everything around the country)

[DWags]

Asprin for me. Has probably done the most for me in 54 years.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Recreational? In order of "fun":

Cocaine
Cialis
Mushrooms
Hash
Pot
LSD
Opium
Synthetic opioids
Heroin (only did this once by accident - was told it was opium - it was black tar heroin)

Never did Molly

I've tried all the boner drugs. Cialis the best for me - no side effects. Just use to go a second time.

[xsanguine]

How do you do black tar heroin by accident? Unless you're a normal IV user and was told it was meth or something. But then again... how would you confuse meth in a syringe and heroin? That'd seem easy to identify to. I'd give interested in trying black considering the different acetalization process. To experience that version of 6-mam was opposed to the eastern process would be something to try.

I've never IV'ed anything besides at thed octor, sniffed my heroin.

I'm an uppity person as it is so coffee, cocaine... stimulants aren't good for me. Honestly a relatively good dose of opiates in the morning and some more in the afternoon I'd be a much outwardly happy person and far more productive. When you're muscles just hurt all the time you tend to be a jerk, unintentionally to people.

I've done hash, I just kind of included it in with marijuana but you make a great point separating the two. They do give two different highs. I like both highs but never vaporized hash so it's always been smoked which is harsh. In Amsterdam, I tried to break it up as much as possible and introduce in smaller ratio but it was still harsh. Very pleasant, though. I like hash.

Going to try real LSD this time coming up. Can't wait. Not sure what to expect, if it's like shrooms where I can operate in public (obviously couldn't work or whatever) but can get around town... I may do that. My friend who is holding it for me wants to go fishing my canoe.... I don't think I want to fish for 12 hours and I don't think I want to deal with either putting the boat in or taking it while tripping balls.

Synthetic opioids are nice but once you have the real processed plant material you never go back. I had tried roxicodone first. Was nice, Did it once every two months when I had a night off, whatever. One day the guy didn't have it anymore, "I got heroine, he said." I said....."Ahh shit, forget it, that ain't my thing." Took me a bit to warm up to it, seeing multiple others do it and hung out with them for awhile afterward. So fine, I decided to take it.
That vinegar smell (from the acetic anhydride)... that earthy flavor (the raw morphine). Way better than that "medicinal" taste. They're both bitter but the real deal is a more desirable bitterness than the sterile, medicinal taste of roxies.

Never cared for boner pills... the young ladies complaint was "it was just too much" and I couldn't stop. Just kept pumpin. I did ones you get at the bodgeta for a dollar.... Samurai, I think it was called. Came in a red packge. Tried twice, not a fan though.

[xsanguine]

Asprin for me.  Has probably done the most for me in 54 years.

Aspirin is an excellent drug. I've read about the long term uses regarding blood clots and preventing heart attacks/strokes.

One of the most important medicinal creations for sure.

For some reason aspirin has never had any effect on me, never had a otc medicine that has besides Tums and Pepto bismol. As far as aspirin, I've gone well beyond the "recommend dose" without any reducton in pain. Not smart to do but I was curious. Certain opiates are the same way; Tramadol and vicodin (at least 7.5mg are useless to me until you really up the doses to the point the acetominophine (the 'regulator filter's... fucked up shit) becomes a problem. In my experience acetominphine is as useless as tylenol or advil.

I still take one aspirin a day for the reported heart benefits and hope you're doing the same!

[Dr. Strangelove]

How do you do black tar heroin by accident? Unless you're a normal IV user and was told it was meth or something. But then again... how would you confuse meth in a syringe and heroin? That'd seem easy to identify to. I'd give interested in trying black considering the different acetalization process. To experience that version of 6-mam was opposed to the eastern process would be something to try.

I've never IV'ed anything besides at thed octor, sniffed my heroin.

Smoked the black tar / smoked the opium. Totally different. We used to use the Op to cut the coke jitters.

Try a real boner drug - great for the second time on the merry go round

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

X how are you putting Molly in front of X? No way Jose!

[xsanguine]

See, I'm a one hitter quitter. I'll last 2-3 hours if you need me to... but once that pecan has cracked... that's that. At least for an hour or two.

Yeah, that'd suck. I tried smoking opium. Didn't like. Learned a trick from one of those cool old heads that's seen it all. He told me to tear up and some zig zag papers around the 1-2 (depending on your tolerance) ball and you can eat it while avoiding the stomach ache.

I tried smoking heroin once, too. Same deal, nothing.

I'd let someone trained in IV'ing IV me with something specifically measured to the mg but not too many people you can trust that would do it.

I was friends with an anesthesiologist that works in a N. Detroit suburb hospitals, one of the big ones.... and he loaded me up on pharmaceutical cocaine once. That was cool. Pure, exact measurements, under supervision of someone that knows how to fix something. He retired a couple years ago. He has a 4500 sq ft home on Lake Huron and grows his own pot just for personal use, Is a wind sailer.... perfect spot. great guy, too. I hate to give out too much else about him that would identify him but he's done some MUCH cooler stuff in his life that'd be too specific to him.

[xsanguine]

X how are you putting Molly in front of X? No way Jose!

Yeah I don't like party drugs as it is so those are just kind of a toss up.

I've had molly more recently so that could play a role.

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

X how are you putting Molly in front of X? No way Jose!

Yeah I don't like party drugs as it is so those are just kind of a toss up.

I've had molly more recently so that could play a role.

Why don't you like them? I would like to pick someone's brain with as much as experience as you have.

[xsanguine]

Yeah I don't like party drugs as it is so those are just kind of a toss up.

I've had molly more recently so that could play a role.

Why don't you like them? I would like to pick someone's brain with as much as experience as you have.

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I'm a mellow guy. I prefer clubs to festivals. I prefer bars to clubs. I prefer pubs to bars an I prefer small parties at home to bars. I enjoy having 40 people at my house getting hammered and watching Spartan football on a 120" projector rather than a bar. I can never get comfortable in public areas with lots of people. I'm always watching my back, I want my back to a wall and have full view of the entrance. I don't want to get sucker punched. I'll ask the waitress if she can change my seat if she has my back to the entrance. If it's not possible I drop it, I'm not a dick, I'm just curious. I'm weird, but it's worked so far.

I'm just not someone who likes to jump around. Plus dancing, watching other people do it, is emabarrassing to me. You know that feeling you get when someone is making an ass of themselves in front of everyone and you're just watching? That's me watching people try to dance. The choreography in 90's videos was especially cringe worthy. It was like prostitutes watching them do their work and not liking it but you could tell they were acting like they liked it because they had to appear to like it.

Dancing is weird to me. It doesn't make sense.

[xsanguine]

Starting at 0: 34..... I don't get it. What are you doing and what the fuck does it have to do with the lyrics besides matching beat which a 4 year old can match a beat. Or, lyrics...? Is there any context there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDM0Fz5ccU

I've never seen any mainstream music videos that make any sense that have choreography. I don't get what their artistic vision they're trying to portray.

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

The key to dancing xsan is not giving a fuck what other people think. I think I'm at the stage in my life where I'm leaning more towards "this is what I am take me or leave it" compared to "trying to act normal for an hour or two to scope things out"...

Especially when you are on these said drugs at these settings.. I don't think anyone truly gives a fuck either. They are there to have a good time, dance their ass off, and just get fucked up. I'm usually so locked into the music/lights/girl I don't even give second thought to some kid who looks like an idiot fist pumping.

[The_Dude]

Heroin? Holy shit dude

[xsanguine]

See.... this makes sense... the dancing. It's weird and unique... the song isn't generic in its own right (it sucks from a melody perspective)... but everything makes sense. Whoever was in charge of this visual project knew what they doing.

Plus pollinating Ariana Grande would feel incredible.

[xsanguine]

Heroin? Holy shit dude

What's your problem with heroin? (let's skip the mainstream media stuff)

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

Starting at 0: 34..... I don't get it. What are you doing and what the fuck does it have to do with the lyrics besides matching beat which a 4 year old can match a beat. Or, lyrics...? Is there any context there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDM0Fz5ccU

I've never seen any mainstream music videos that make any sense that have choreography. I don't get what their artistic vision they're trying to portray.

Bruh I ain't talking about that shit. That is like awkward hip hop dance that you exactly referenced. It is what it is - the world still figuring things out.

You guys will probably all hate this but xsan this is more down the lines of what I'm into.

Play it 15:00 to 15:45.

[The_Dude]

Heroin? Holy shit dude

What's your problem with heroin? (let's skip the mainstream media stuff)

It's too intense

[Guest]

You guys will probably all hate this but xsan this is more down the lines of what I'm into.

Damn things are a lot tamer now.....

[xsanguine]

The key to dancing xsan is not giving a fuck what other people think. I think I'm at the stage in my life where I'm leaning more towards "this is what I am take me or leave it" compared to "trying to act normal for an hour or two to scope things out"...

Especially when you are on these said drugs at these settings.. I don't think anyone truly gives a fuck either. They are there to have a good time, dance their ass off, and just get fucked up. I'm usually so locked into the music/lights/girl I don't even give second thought to some kid who looks like an idiot fist pumping.

I've experienced two ego deaths, OTPT. I'm about to get more weird than I've ever got on this board in my life.

My first ego death occurred on 5g of home grown Golden Teacher, pretty sure it was 2003. I was in a HORRIBLE point in my life. I've said before my parents never said I love you, good job, I'm proud of you... yada yada... no emotion whatsoever.
There's this scene in Road to Perdition where he's taking care of his father's wound... I had to tend to my father once, a bad wound, forget the reason... nothing serious but... it was awkward because I was never that close to him before... and since then, for some reason ANY father/son bonding scene gets me. To even make sure it's the right scene I had to watch and it happened. But I usually leave the room when I know it's coming

I guess I only posted that because that movie reminds me of my father's relationship and mine... at least up to that part. I wish it could have ended like that. That'd been nice.

I had an almost identical conversation with my father at a similar age. I wish would have ended different. People always told me "You look like your father, you like your father! Everything about you!!!"
But I wanted my dad to compare me to him, ya know?
The first time someone told me they love me I was 16 and instantly latch on. I loved the shit out of this girl, everything revolved around if she could be apart of it. So imagine at the age of 16 the first person you have EVER trusted and who had ever made you feel like you matter and were loved turns around and cheats on you. It's happened to a lot of people, I'm not special. But it's hard to articulate that kind of pain because a lot of people are told by their parents the things parents should be telling kids. Anyways.... it really fucked me up. I went from a 3.9 student to a 2.2 student. Stopped going, parents kicked me out, stayed on a friends couch and got drunk every night on whiskey we stole from the store. I hated life. I hated thinking about what exactly she had done. I still can't stop myself from letting it play out in my mind, at least the version I've always assumed. Anyways, years passed, I was still a nutcase... very aggressive, lots of fights. I hated everyone. I just joined this band and I remember the very first practice the drummer, kind of a hippie new age guy came up to me afterwards and said "I love you, man. I want you to come back. I tell you're a good soul and the type of person I want in my life as a person and as someone to make music with." I and I just made that face like I can't do this right now... but I left and did my thing. This guy was confused as fuck. One reason is part of it was like reliving what I already had experienced but the primary part of it is he's the type of guy you know within 5 minutes he'd never steal anything from you, wouldn't flake out, would call you if he wasn't going to make it or be late.

Anyways.... I'm sorry, man, I'm long winded but this means a lot to me so if you don't like it I'm sorry but it has to be said as it is.

A week later he had me do some shrooms he grew. We did 5g and sat on his Lake Huron beach house (he was a trust fund kid.... in his mid 40's) and shroomed out. He let me be alone for the most part because he had been around the block. It's nothing I could ever explain but it's probably the most profound moment of my life. I experience an ego death. I stop being the aggressive "I gotta protect everyone" person. I mellowed out. Overnight. I understand how kindness is more important than assertiveness. People who are assertive and "bossy" are insecure. It's weird, I've done shrooms dozens of times since then and I learn something new each time. I've had two ego deaths but it's been years since I've had one. I'm far overdue for another experience. I really need it right now. I have so much to deal with, it's hard holding it all together.

But even that lecture that I gave about not going through life through "official" channels. I'm sorry for coming off so rude, but it's just another.... byproduct if you will... there's infinite amount of possibilities to survive this world.

I don't do psychedelics for fun. I enjoy them. I really do enjoy them, but I use them to hopefully learn. Learn about myself, learn about the world, learn about behavior and insecurity. Learn about my own insecurities and especially my ego. I don't use them recreationally. I used heroin for post workout stretches. Never cared for coke. Weed was just an everyday thing.

[xsanguine]

Starting at 0: 34..... I don't get it. What are you doing and what the fuck does it have to do with the lyrics besides matching beat which a 4 year old can match a beat. Or, lyrics...? Is there any context there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjDM0Fz5ccU

I've never seen any mainstream music videos that make any sense that have choreography. I don't get what their artistic vision they're trying to portray.

Bruh I ain't talking about that shit. That is like awkward hip hop dance that you exactly referenced. It is what it is - the world still figuring things out.

You guys will probably all hate this but xsan this is more down the lines of what I'm into.

Play it 15:00 to 15:45.

They're like Nine Inch Nails without any melodies.

Either way if I'm on a long acting stimulant (or enough cocaine), I'm sure I'd have fun if I was with friends.

This is more my style...

[xsanguine]

Heroin? Holy shit dude

I'm being serious. I'm one of the few people looking to change the misconceptions about one of the safest and most effective pain relievers known to man.

[xsanguine]

I guess my point is... those 6 hour shrooms trips realized that nothing is perfect, and that's okay. He had his own insecurities and fears and things he thought about me he migth not want to have broached to make it awkward. Like I said, we argued a lot, we got into fist fights a lot.

Everything changed after that shroom trip. I spent all night drawing huge murals on the sidewalk. I can't draw for shit... I mean, I fuck up stick figures. Really, I am HORRIBLE.... but I draw this entire sea scene with a ship navigating heavy seas with a rainbow and a bright sunshine. I've never been able to draw anything since.... but it is what it is. I was staying with a real good friend (not the same guy) who was keeping an eye on me."
I don't know where I'm going... I'm just saying, based on my experiencing. I feel psychedelics have helped me become a better, more forgiving person. I have a long way to go, I think that's obvious. But I believe in them as a medicine far than I believe in weed as a medicine (besides milk inflammatory... i.e. ibuprofin)

[Tim Wakefield]

This thread has me written all over it

[xsanguine]

This thread has me written all over it

The part about a boy yearning, in vain, for the love of his father or the recreational use of drugs?

[Tim Wakefield]

Drugz. I like beer, does that count?

[xsanguine]

Drugz. I like beer, does that count?

I was really hoping to get you with the father/son angle.

But beer counts.... barley...... HEH, GET IT....

[xsanguine]

I haven't slept over over 50 some hours. I'm like the fucking energizer bunny.

[InTenSity]

I haven't read the whole thread. I'll try to list based on what I enjoy most to least.
Shrooms
Vicodin
Xanax
X
Meth
Lsd
Coke
Heroin
Weed
Crack

Ok, so maybe not quite in order, but it's been 8 years since I've done anything 'hard' and 5 years since any weed. On occasion a buddy will give me some type of painkiller. Between 19 and 25, if you put it in front of me, I'd do it. Weed makes me paranoid, so o I just stopped smoking it, to the point I thought everyone was undercover or wanted to kill me. Coke was always, meh, but if it's there I'd do some. Use to trip as much as I could and for a while probably did out a couple times a month. Shot up once, not sure if it was a painkiller or heroin. I was tripping when  I did that. I swear it was pill though.

[xsanguine]

The key to dancing xsan is not giving a fuck what other people think. I think I'm at the stage in my life where I'm leaning more towards "this is what I am take me or leave it" compared to "trying to act normal for an hour or two to scope things out"...

Especially when you are on these said drugs at these settings.. I don't think anyone truly gives a fuck either. They are there to have a good time, dance their ass off, and just get fucked up. I'm usually so locked into the music/lights/girl I don't even give second thought to some kid who looks like an idiot fist pumping.

I've experienced two ego deaths, OTPT. I'm about to get more weird than I've ever got on this board in my life.

My first ego death occurred on 5g of home grown Golden Teacher, pretty sure it was 2003. I was in a HORRIBLE point in my life. I've said before my parents never said I love you, good job, I'm proud of you... yada yada... no emotion whatsoever.
There's this scene in Road to Perdition where he's taking care of his father's wound... I had to tend to my father once, a bad wound, forget the reason... nothing serious but... it was awkward because I was never that close to him before... and since then, for some reason ANY father/son bonding scene gets me. To even make sure it's the right scene I had to watch and it happened. But I usually leave the room when I know it's coming

I guess I only posted that because that movie reminds me of my father's relationship and mine... at least up to that part. I wish it could have ended like that. That'd been nice.

I had an almost identical conversation with my father at a similar age. I wish would have ended different. People always told me "You look like your father, you like your father! Everything about you!!!"
But I wanted my dad to compare me to him, ya know?
The first time someone told me they love me I was 16 and instantly latch on. I loved the shit out of this girl, everything revolved around if she could be apart of it. So imagine at the age of 16 the first person you have EVER trusted and who had ever made you feel like you matter and were loved turns around and cheats on you. It's happened to a lot of people, I'm not special. But it's hard to articulate that kind of pain because a lot of people are told by their parents the things parents should be telling kids. Anyways.... it really fucked me up. I went from a 3.9 student to a 2.2 student. Stopped going, parents kicked me out, stayed on a friends couch and got drunk every night on whiskey we stole from the store. I hated life. I hated thinking about what exactly she had done. I still can't stop myself from letting it play out in my mind, at least the version I've always assumed. Anyways, years passed, I was still a nutcase... very aggressive, lots of fights. I hated everyone. I just joined this band and I remember the very first practice the drummer, kind of a hippie new age guy came up to me afterwards and said "I love you, man. I want you to come back. I tell you're a good soul and the type of person I want in my life as a person and as someone to make music with." I and I just made that face like I can't do this right now... but I left and did my thing. This guy was confused as fuck. One reason is part of it was like reliving what I already had experienced but the primary part of it is he's the type of guy you know within 5 minutes he'd never steal anything from you, wouldn't flake out, would call you if he wasn't going to make it or be late.

Anyways.... I'm sorry, man, I'm long winded but this means a lot to me so if you don't like it I'm sorry but it has to be said as it is.

A week later he had me do some shrooms he grew. We did 5g and sat on his Lake Huron beach house (he was a trust fund kid.... in his mid 40's) and shroomed out. He let me be alone for the most part because he had been around the block. It's nothing I could ever explain but it's probably the most profound moment of my life. I experience an ego death. I stop being the aggressive "I gotta protect everyone" person. I mellowed out. Overnight. I understand how kindness is more important than assertiveness. People who are assertive and "bossy" are insecure. It's weird, I've done shrooms dozens of times since then and I learn something new each time. I've had two ego deaths but it's been years since I've had one. I'm far overdue for another experience. I really need it right now. I have so much to deal with, it's hard holding it all together.

But even that lecture that I gave about not going through life through "official" channels. I'm sorry for coming off so rude, but it's just another.... byproduct if you will... there's infinite amount of possibilities to survive this world.

I don't do psychedelics for fun. I enjoy them. I really do enjoy them, but I use them to hopefully learn. Learn about myself, learn about the world, learn about behavior and insecurity. Learn about my own insecurities and especially my ego. I don't use them recreationally. I used heroin for post workout stretches. Never cared for coke. Weed was just an everyday thing.

I just realized something.

I went to quickly get the sheet music for that song in guitar.... and just playing it brought an intense amount of sadness over me. It's fucking weird. Like the song is absolutely beautiful, who ever wrote those chords has some pain deep, deep in there and it just consumes you if you're in tune with that area of timber.

Of course the scene itself is going to appeal to me because of the topic being dissected. But it's the music that brings me the genuine love and bonding that is happening right there. The acting is good, it HAS to be for it to work. Tom Hanks is a genius, I expect him to nail a scene like that (he's done the EXACT same level of legendary work as a film savant in Castaway and Forrest Gump) the guy can deliver a line that just tugs at your heart strings. But the way the kid interacted. I don't expect children to be in tune with nuances like the awkward and nervous encounters you have with your fathers... and the kid plays the part like he's been doing it 20 years.
But what makes that scene kill. What makes that scene absolutely brilliant and ties it all in is that fucking scene. Everything has to be perfect. The acting, the mannerisms, the timbre, tone... the music has to hit at the right time, the lens has to focused and shot perfectly. And to come out with a scene like that. If I ever shot a scene not even half as good as that... but captured half of what that entire scene explained even beyond what I'm noticing.... I'd consider myself a genius. Thomas Newman is a genius. I cry like a baby not because I directly connect with those characters on a personal level... but because that music makes me venerable, which I'm drawn to anyways, but when you're vulnerable and then susceptible to someone touching on those deep seeded insecurities... that's that.

Post your own episodes with shrooms. I do it because I believe I learn more about myself, my ego and my insecurities as well as how to bypass arbitrary aspects of life that it's tough for me to see from the perspective I've always known. Some do it cause they have fun... I'd love to hear about having fun. I'm too busy sellf-learning so I miss out

[xsanguine]

I haven't read the whole thread. I'll try to list based on what I enjoy most to least.
Shrooms
Vicodin
Xanax
X
Meth
Lsd
Coke
Heroin
Weed
Crack

Ok, so maybe not quite in order, but it's been 8 years since I've done anything 'hard' and 5 years since any weed. On occasion a buddy will give me some type of painkiller. Between 19 and 25, if you put it in front of me, I'd do it. Weed makes me paranoid, so o I just stopped smoking it, to the point I thought everyone was undercover or wanted to kill me. Coke was always, meh, but if it's there I'd do some. Use to trip as much as I could and for a while probably did out a couple times a month. Shot up once, not sure if it was a painkiller or heroin. I was tripping when  I did that. I swear it was pill though.

You got vicodin over heroin?

That's a weird one, to me. Why is that , Intensity?

[InTenSity]

I haven't read the whole thread. I'll try to list based on what I enjoy most to least.
Shrooms
Vicodin
Xanax
X
Meth
Lsd
Coke
Heroin
Weed
Crack

Ok, so maybe not quite in order, but it's been 8 years since I've done anything 'hard' and 5 years since any weed. On occasion a buddy will give me some type of painkiller. Between 19 and 25, if you put it in front of me, I'd do it. Weed makes me paranoid, so o I just stopped smoking it, to the point I thought everyone was undercover or wanted to kill me. Coke was always, meh, but if it's there I'd do some. Use to trip as much as I could and for a while probably did out a couple times a month. Shot up once, not sure if it was a painkiller or heroin. I was tripping when  I did that. I swear it was pill though.

You got vicodin over heroin?

That's a weird one, to me. Why is that , Intensity?

Only did heroin once. I forgot morphine though. That shit should be #2. That was after a knee surgery.

[xsanguine]

Morphine and heroine are so close to being the same, it's no wonder. Past the first few seconds the effects should be the same. Our body metabolizes heroin into morphnie, anyways,

Never tried morphine, I certainly became quite the connoisseur of different regions of heroin and the cuts used heroin, though. You can't scam me with coke or heroin.

I found some morphine 30's the other day that I took. It didn't much but it did take that constant irritability that follows me around for an hour or two. Can't see it being useful for pain.

[xsanguine]

I'd just like to do like I did in NYC... smash a bag, head out and walk around downtown,g rab a pizza. Go look at vinyl go see a show and come back.

Only one problem; no public transportation.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Vicodin sucks and it tear up your liver.

Oh forgot I was on morphine drip once for 8 days. I could push that button 8 times an hour.

I was in the hospital for 17 days. My liver and both kidneys had shutdown. They did exploratory surgery.

I had severe abdominal pain.

Never did figure out what was wrong with me they think it was some weird virus. I just got better.

[xsanguine]

Vicodin sucks and it tear up your liver.

Oh forgot I was on morphine drip once for 8 days. I could push that button 8 times an hour.

I was in the hospital for 17 days. My liver and both kidneys had shutdown. They did exploratory surgery.

I had severe abdominal pain.

Never did figure out what was wrong with me they think it was some weird virus. I just got better.

Vicodin, besides something wild like Krokodil, is probably worst. Far worse than most street heroin. Codine high hydrocodone, whatever.... is not nearly as relieving as the morphine alkaloid.

See man you were on pharmaceutical heroin for 8 days straight and you're not on the corner fiending some dope? Been told that's not possible but you should be traveling the corners looking for the next fux,

[xsanguine]

What's your problem with heroin? (let's skip the mainstream media stuff)

It's too intense

Like potency wise? That's easiily fixed by dosage

[xsanguine]

The key to dancing xsan is not giving a fuck what other people think. I think I'm at the stage in my life where I'm leaning more towards "this is what I am take me or leave it" compared to "trying to act normal for an hour or two to scope things out"...

Especially when you are on these said drugs at these settings.. I don't think anyone truly gives a fuck either. They are there to have a good time, dance their ass off, and just get fucked up. I'm usually so locked into the music/lights/girl I don't even give second thought to some kid who looks like an idiot fist pumping.

I was a headbanger in the 90's. We didn't dance we moshed. Dancing just ain't muh thing.

Plus, I don't care what others things, I care what I think and I think I look like a moron with excessive energy.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Vicodin sucks and it tear up your liver.

Oh forgot I was on morphine drip once for 8 days. I could push that button 8 times an hour.

I was in the hospital for 17 days. My liver and both kidneys had shutdown. They did exploratory surgery.

I had severe abdominal pain.

Never did figure out what was wrong with me they think it was some weird virus. I just got better.

Vicodin, besides something wild like Krokodil, is probably worst. Far worse than most street heroin. Codine high hydrocodone, whatever.... is not nearly as relieving as the morphine alkaloid.

See man you were on pharmaceutical heroin for 8 days straight and you're not on the corner fiending some dope? Been told that's not possible but you should be traveling the corners looking for the next fux,

I do have to admit I was not happy when they turned the spigot off and switched me over to Tylenol 3s.

I had 7 more days in the hospital after they stopped the morphine but I didn't have any Jones after I got out of the hospital.

[tanfan!]

Bath salts

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