Kap sitting for the National Anthem

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

P Rob wrote:

YOUR MOM, BOB.

thanks.. she died 4 years and 4 months ago.  

(just kidding)

(well, not kidding, really - she really did die 4 years and 4 months ago)

(I was more or less kidding about pretending to be upset about your comment)

Patriotism on a whole is a weird concept to me, btw, I derive no pride from the geographic location of my mother at the time of my birth.

StylesGShmooth wrote:While I wouldn't do it his way, the flag means too much to too many people, I can't really argue with what he said. For the record, he never said that he was personally oppressed. I applaud him for actually putting himself out there like that for something he believes, will probably ruin his career. BTW, everything that is currently being said about Kap was also being said about Muhammad Ali back in the day.

Uh, his career was already ruined. He's just not that good.

StylesGShmooth wrote:While I wouldn't do it his way, the flag means too much to too many people, I can't really argue with what he said. For the record, he never said that he was personally oppressed. I applaud him for actually putting himself out there like that for something he believes, will probably ruin his career. BTW, everything that is currently being said about Kap was also being said about Muhammad Ali back in the day.

this.

people are so easily offended.. well, they're not really offended.. they manufacture outrage. What Kaepernick said is a lot closer to the truth than what Trump says every day when he's being critical of a country that has been so great to him.

The difference is that Trump is white.

(or orange.. but sort of white).

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

This guy does not care.

that guy looks like the kind of guy that would be wearing a football jersey..

I'm surprised he put down his triple Whopper with cheese long enough to make the video.

Turtleneck wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:that guy looks like the kind of guy that would be wearing a football jersey..

I'm surprised he put down his triple Whopper with cheese long enough to make the video.

I think he left it in his meth lab.

TheReal_LWS wrote:

Cameron wrote:I find it amusing that anyone cares at all about this, and boy do some people care a whole lot.

Patriotism is weird, and people who get into dick measuring contests over who is more patriotic are bewildering.

Also, the star spangled banner is a shitty song and I'd be happy if I never heard it again.

I'd be happy if you never heard it again either.............

Thanks, guy, that's very supportive of you.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

StylesGShmooth wrote:While I wouldn't do it his way, the flag means too much to too many people, I can't really argue with what he said.  For the record, he never said that he was personally oppressed.  I applaud him for actually putting himself out there like that for something he believes, will probably ruin his career.  BTW, everything that is currently being said about Kap was also being said about Muhammad Ali back in the day.  

this.

people are so easily offended.. well, they're not really offended.. they manufacture outrage. What Kaepernick said is a lot closer to the truth than what Trump says every day when he's being critical of a country that has been so great to him.

The difference is that Trump is white.

(or orange.. but sort of white).

TAKE YOUR PROPAGANDA ELSEWHERE, JOHNNY SAC.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

StylesGShmooth wrote:While I wouldn't do it his way, the flag means too much to too many people, I can't really argue with what he said. For the record, he never said that he was personally oppressed. I applaud him for actually putting himself out there like that for something he believes, will probably ruin his career. BTW, everything that is currently being said about Kap was also being said about Muhammad Ali back in the day.

this.

people are so easily offended.. well, they're not really offended.. they manufacture outrage. What Kaepernick said is a lot closer to the truth than what Trump says every day when he's being critical of a country that has been so great to him.

The difference is that Trump is white.

(or orange.. but sort of white).

You seem to be implying that no one is offended by Trump. I'm not sure that's the case.

NigelUno wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:this.

people are so easily offended.. well, they're not really offended.. they manufacture outrage. What Kaepernick said is a lot closer to the truth than what Trump says every day when he's being critical of a country that has been so great to him.

The difference is that Trump is white.

(or orange.. but sort of white).

You seem to be implying that no one is offended by Trump. I'm not sure that's the case.

I'm simply saying that, for the most part, a lot of the same people being critical of a black guy cheer for Trump when he says basicially the same thing.

tGreenWay wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

This guy does not care.

Kap should burn the American flag in response to this guy.

He's so light between the ears he'd probably end up like the retards outside the DNC a few weeks ago.

tGreenWay wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

This guy does not care.

Kap should burn the American flag in response to this guy.

that would be sweet.

P Rob wrote:

StylesGShmooth wrote:While I wouldn't do it his way, the flag means too much to too many people, I can't really argue with what he said.  For the record, he never said that he was personally oppressed.  I applaud him for actually putting himself out there like that for something he believes, will probably ruin his career.  BTW, everything that is currently being said about Kap was also being said about Muhammad Ali back in the day.  

Uh, his career was already ruined.  He's just not that good.

True but now I don't think he'll get that opportunity to hang around those few extra years as the veteran backup Mark Brunell or Matt Hasselbeck style.  Matts Schaub or Cassell still in the league?

What happened to him, btw. He was pretty damn good that SuperBowl year, then poof. Wasn't like RG3 who broke his leg off and kept trying to come back too early.

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

Turtleneck wrote:

I'm surprised he put down his triple Whopper with cheese long enough to make the video.

I think he left it in his meth lab.

Looks like he dropped some coin on some nice athletic shoes so he could train while eating Whoppers and cooking meth.

StylesGShmooth wrote:

P Rob wrote:

Uh, his career was already ruined.  He's just not that good.

True but now I don't think he'll get that opportunity to hang around those few extra years as the veteran backup Mark Brunell or Matt Hasselbeck style.  Matts Schaub or Cassell still in the league?

What happened to him, btw. He was pretty damn good that SuperBowl year, then poof. Wasn't like RG3 who broke his leg off and kept trying to come back too early.

Harbaughed

Im sure Kap will be donating millions of dollars to help the cause man, ya know, THE CAUSE!

Turtleneck wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I think he left it in his meth lab.

Looks like he dropped some coin on some nice athletic shoes so he could train while eating Whoppers and cooking meth.

he's an America-lovin' patriot, though.. so I he's got that going for him on his dating website.

this will upset the knuckle-draggers..

South Carolina School Bans American Flag From Football Games

TRAVELERS REST, S.C. – School officials’ decision to ban students from displaying the American Flag at a recent football game is creating controversy in a South Carolina school district.

I wonder how these people will pretend to care about their country now?

StylesGShmooth wrote:Patriotism on a whole is a weird concept to me, btw, I derive no pride from the geographic location of my mother at the time of my birth.

Canadian, eh?

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

Like you and Bob are talking about it here?

Let him do what he wants, he's an attention whore doing what he does.

it's a welcome surprise to see you supporting free speech.

I support free speech, I oppose repetitive assholery.

LooseGoose wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:it's a welcome surprise to see you supporting free speech.

I support free speech, I oppose repetitive assholery.

Vote Here to Ban Bob Sak

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

NigelUno wrote:

You seem to be implying that no one is offended by Trump. I'm not sure that's the case.

I'm simply saying that, for the most part, a lot of the same people being critical of a black guy cheer for Trump when he says basicially the same thing.

I'm not sure Kap and Trump are saying the same thing.

This is very upsetting to me. I will now burn something I own to express my anger. 

NigelUno wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:I'm simply saying that, for the most part, a lot of the same people being critical of a black guy cheer for Trump when he says basicially the same thing.

I'm not sure Kap and Trump are saying the same thing.

True. Kapaernick is being honest.

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:This is very upsetting to me. I will now burn something I own to express my anger. 

I am going to loot. Kap sitting down for the National Anthem means I should help myself to some big screen TVs!

StylesGShmooth wrote:Patriotism on a whole is a weird concept to me, btw, I derive no pride from the geographic location of my mother at the time of my birth.

9/11

Robert J Sakimano wrote:

NigelUno wrote:If you're the Coach, do you make him stand up?

only if you're a coach who doesn't believe in freedom of speech, thought or expression.

NFL doesn't give these guys freedom of expression. They get a fine for wearing the wrong socks.

aualum06 wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:only if you're a coach who doesn't believe in freedom of speech, thought or expression.

NFL doesn't give these guys freedom of expression. They get a fine for wearing the wrong socks.

I'll keep them in my thoughts and prayers as I burn my sock drawer to the misty-eyed patriotic strains of Lee Greenwood.

Chet Lemon Lou Whitaker. Never did.

DWags wrote:Chet Lemon Lou Whitaker. Never did.

Religious reasons so somewhat different and they didn't make a deal out of it.

I bet Kaepernick hangs out with that traitor Gabby Douglass, too.

Honestly, this is all Harbaugh's fault.

I don't know man. He put himself in a difficult spot. One could make the argument that his protest in how a country oppresses people of color falls a little flat when his black father abandoned him and a white couple adopted him and afforded him everything he needed. And the fact that he's about 95% more likely to be killed by a black man than a cop. And the fact that he more than likely lives in a real nice neighborhood free of crime with some pretty tight security or police presence when needed. Now I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to his protest. But he seems to have benefitted from a society that has made him quite the beneficiary of it's everyday rule of law.

And Harbaugh...

Jim Harbaugh: 'Don't respect' action of Colin Kaepernick's protest

"I acknowledge his right to do that. I don't respect the motivation or the action," said Harbaugh, who coached Kaepernick with the San Francisco 49ers.

(Later backed off that statement a bit)

Today I found that some of my customer and employees were much more wound up about it than I would have expected.

Often the level of outrage was inverse to the extent of their military service.

Go figure.

I'm a vet. I also think he understood what he was doing. Wouldn't be surprised if his agent is less than pleased.

Could be Kapernic looked around at the players on the 49er's, looked at at least one who retired due to CTE concerns and decided the millions he's made from the NFL and any endorsements are enough to retire from football.

LooseGoose wrote:

DWags wrote:Chet Lemon Lou Whitaker. Never did.

Religious reasons so somewhat different and they didn't make a deal out of it.

I don't know what the difference is Loose. And did Kap make a deal of it or did the media. Back in the 80's the media was a bit more respectful I guess.

DWags wrote:

LooseGoose wrote:

Religious reasons so somewhat different and they didn't make a deal out of it.

I don't know what the difference is Loose. And did Kap make a deal of it or did the media. Back in the 80's the media was a bit more respectful I guess.

I know it at least made game stories or something because I recall being aware of it.

Probably more related to how we treat each other. Supposedly today we have more respect for differences and a diversity of opinions, I don't believe it. At that time it wasn't a big deal, and no one was expected to get outraged over it. Today we're driven by media, social media, and our leaders to be outraged by anyone that disagrees with us.

We are expected consider them stupid, backward, crazy, bigots, racists, whatever hateful label that can be thrown at them. It's not acceptable to recognize that people can disagree without being disagreeable. It's made our discourse coarse and driven wedges all over our country and frankly it sucks. I'm not aiming at "right" or "left" here because both sides are guilty as hell.