Re: tOfficial Furman Thread

by **Turtleneck** 2016-09-03, 21:25

Herbie Green wrote:I can just imagine sitting in on film room tomorrow:

"What the hell were you doing on this play?!!?"

"I wasn't really trying since we were only playing Furman"

"Ok that's cool"

I doubt the coaches found any lack of intensity to be cool. Do you like straw? Do you like men? Do you like them together?

by Herbie Green 2016-09-03, 21:32

Turtleneck wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:I can just imagine sitting in on film room tomorrow:

"What the hell were you doing on this play?!!?"

"I wasn't really trying since we were only playing Furman"

"Ok that's cool"

I doubt the coaches found any lack of intensity to be cool. Do you like straw? Do you like men? Do you like them together?

Sorry I could have sworn posters were saying the team couldn't get fired up for the first game of the season because they were playing Furman. I guess I just imagined the whole thing and invented straw men. Good call.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2016-09-03, 21:32

You can either freak out about yesterday's game or you can not. Up to you. End result on the field will be the same whether you freak out or not. End result on message board will be the same whether you freak out or not.

by Herbie Green 2016-09-03, 21:34

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:You can either freak out about yesterday's game or you can not. Up to you. End result on the field will be the same whether you freak out or not. End result on message board will be the same whether you freak out or not.

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by **Turtleneck** 2016-09-03, 21:44

Herbie Green wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

I doubt the coaches found any lack of intensity to be cool. Do you like straw? Do you like men? Do you like them together?

Sorry I could have sworn posters were saying the team couldn't get fired up for the first game of the season because they were playing Furman. I guess I just imagined the whole thing and invented straw men. Good call.

You invented a strawman when you said the coaches were "cool" with the players lack of intensity. Is that too hard for your old man brain to process?

by **tGreenWay** 2016-09-03, 21:50

Herbie Green wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

I doubt the coaches found any lack of intensity to be cool. Do you like straw? Do you like men? Do you like them together?

Sorry I could have sworn posters were saying the team couldn't get fired up for the first game of the season because they were playing Furman. I guess I just imagined the whole thing and invented straw men. Good call.

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by Herbie Green 2016-09-03, 21:54

Turtleneck wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:

Sorry I could have sworn posters were saying the team couldn't get fired up for the first game of the season because they were playing Furman. I guess I just imagined the whole thing and invented straw men. Good call.

You invented a strawman when you said the coaches were "cool" with the players lack of intensity. Is that too hard for your old man brain to process?

No, I don't understand. It is unacceptable for the coaches but a perfectly acceptable excuse for message board posters?

I seriously don't know how you guys come up with this shit

I seriously don't know how

by **Turtleneck** 2016-09-03, 22:02

Herbie Green wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

You invented a strawman when you said the coaches were "cool" with the players lack of intensity. Is that too hard for your old man brain to process?

No, I don't understand. It is unacceptable for the coaches but a perfectly acceptable excuse for message board posters?

I seriously don't know how you guys come up with this shit

I seriously don't know how

It's an excuse, but I do not think it is acceptable in the sense that people are OK with the team not showing up because they were bored with the opponent. I think most people would tell you that it is unacceptable and the team should show up regardless. All of this seems a bit too nuanced for you. Maybe we should stick to discussing message board strikes.

by CheesySpartan 2016-09-03, 22:07

Herbie Green wrote:
Clarett's Folly wrote:

Let me guess, you're demanding excellence.

Just calling it what it is. That is how I roll

LOL...I mentioned to my dad last night while whatching on my deck...I was pretty sure the eventual ROSE BOWL CHAMPS were unable to keep up with the D...just sayin..

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2016-09-03, 22:20

Herbie Green wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

You invented a strawman when you said the coaches were "cool" with the players lack of intensity. Is that too hard for your old man brain to process?

No, I don't understand. It is unacceptable for the coaches but a perfectly acceptable excuse for message board posters?

I seriously don't know how you guys come up with this shit

I seriously don't know how

You don't seem to know a lot of things.

by **tGreenWay** 2016-09-03, 23:04

I've been at dinner. Is Herbie still tilting or has he moved on to pouting?

by **Turtleneck** 2016-09-03, 23:10

tGreenWay wrote:I've been at dinner. Is Herbie still tilting or has he moved on to pouting?

Either way the strike is definitely over.

by **NigelUno** 2016-09-03, 23:17

tGreenWay wrote:I've been at dinner. Is Herbie still tilting or has he moved on to pouting?

Pudding.

by **Nordic** 2016-09-04, 03:02

DWags wrote:
Clarett's Folly wrote:

Why is the "keeping things vanilla" argument a "load of crap?"
I don't necessarily agree that was the entire issue but the "vanilla" argument seems more like a reason than an excuse.

I saw a lot of flanker sweeps and shit on offense. Saw blitzes. Don't think it was vanilla. But I saw 120 worth of penalties. That's hard to overcome.

Yes, in the 2nd half... which is pretty much what I said. First quarter was pretty vanilla... 2-3 man simple routes (no rubs, no motion, no jet action, etc.)

(EDIT: I have to re-watch the 1st quarter again, because my attention level was admittedly pretty vanilla early on, so I could be completely wrong)

Clarett's Folly wrote:
DWags wrote:

Yep. Hicks and Price were a bit disappointing in their second major penalty, but we'll be much more focused in two weeks in my opinion

Hicks' penalty in the end zone was brilliant, though.
He was cleanly beaten, was about to surrender the TD, committed pass interference, and the defense ultimately only surrendered a FG.
That is a great damn deal if you ask me.

Agree... that one was pretty obv... the others is what I question.

by **Nordic** 2016-09-04, 03:05

Herbie Green wrote:Don't try to sugar coat this and make excuses because this was an absolute horeshit performance.
"We were keeping things vanilla" excuse is the biggesr pile of crap. This was a bad FCS team we should have been able to run the ball up the middle every play and been up 35-0 at half, minimum.

Are you this much of a spaz in real life? Calling what I saw and pretty sure I called a spade a spade. Tell me what you saw spaz.

by **Nordic** 2016-09-04, 03:13

Turtleneck wrote:
CORNER BLITZ wrote:The Dline will get it together, had another injury there that theyll overcome

Plus I spent all morning faxing ideas to Dantonio. Things will be fine.

by **Nordic** 2016-09-04, 03:16

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Comp has some interesting points. Need to finish the "dot comp" and see what else he has posted since last night. He said the defense looked unprepared because they were unprepared. Furman was a traditional offense last year and that's what we prepped for and they completely revamped it in the offseason for this game. So either Furman is really good at keeping secrets or we weren't paying attention. I trust our coaches so I'm guessing it's the former.

Defense wasn't the issue... not sure why this is even a dot-topic

by **Nordic** 2016-09-04, 03:18

Herbie Green wrote:I can just imagine sitting in on film room tomorrow:

"What the hell were you doing on this play?!!?"

"I wasn't really trying since we were only playing Furman"

"Ok that's cool"

Herbie is Elite every day... Are you PJ Fleck??

by **Nordic** 2016-09-04, 03:20

Herbie Green wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:

You invented a strawman when you said the coaches were "cool" with the players lack of intensity. Is that too hard for your old man brain to process?

No, I don't understand. It is unacceptable for the coaches but a perfectly acceptable excuse for message board posters?

I seriously don't know how you guys come up with this shit

I seriously don't know how

Keep being Elite Herbs... Row that Boat!!!!

by **Nordic** 2016-09-04, 03:26

DWags wrote:
Nordic wrote:Dwags & WBH...tailgate with me (and BM) for Wisky and we can discuss. I will send you the secret location.

If it's Jennison we know where that building is

Jesus H Paul Chryst, you know everything.

by Herbie Green 2016-09-04, 09:05

Nordic wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Comp has some interesting points. Need to finish the "dot comp" and see what else he has posted since last night. He said the defense looked unprepared because they were unprepared. Furman was a traditional offense last year and that's what we prepped for and they completely revamped it in the offseason for this game. So either Furman is really good at keeping secrets or we weren't paying attention. I trust our coaches so I'm guessing it's the former.

Defense wasn't the issue... not sure why this is even a dot-topic

I think D-line is the most concerning issue from this game.

Lol at Comp though.

by **SeeRockCity** 2016-09-04, 11:13

Was thinking last night. Wonder if CMD pulled RJ after he nonchalantly sauntered OOB on his first catch and run. He was on the sideline all game with helmet in hand afterwards. In order to keep it in-house, CMD says minor injury.

Just thinking out loud. I have to admit, it would make me happy. God bless him, but that dude is constantly mailing it in at the end of a play. This isn't the NFL dude.

by Stoops21 2016-09-04, 12:55

I'll wait for after the notre dame game to freak. Still enjoying my holiday weekend and have abandoned social media for the most part during the season to avoid slurping from media and fans. It's been helping.

by Clarett's Folly 2016-09-04, 13:52

Herbie Green wrote:I can just imagine sitting in on film room tomorrow:

"What the hell were you doing on this play?!!?"

"I wasn't really trying since we were only playing Furman"

"You know I'm going to make you run until you shit yourself, right?"

"I know..."

In my experience the edits I've made above are closer to the truth.

by **Nordic** 2016-09-04, 15:55

Herbie Green wrote:
Nordic wrote:

Defense wasn't the issue... not sure why this is even a dot-topic

I think D-line is the most concerning issue from this game.

Lol at Comp though.

Definitely was not great. Still more worried about the O than the D.

by **Nordic** 2016-09-04, 15:57

SeeRockCity wrote:Was thinking last night. Wonder if CMD pulled RJ after he nonchalantly sauntered OOB on his first catch and run. He was on the sideline all game with helmet in hand afterwards. In order to keep it in-house, CMD says minor injury.

Just thinking out loud. I have to admit, it would make me happy. God bless him, but that dude is constantly mailing it in at the end of a play. This isn't the NFL dude.

Possibly. One of my buddies said they say a trainer rubbing his hammy or something.

I thought Stewart looked pretty good and quick on kick returns. I'd like to see him more. Obviously not so good on the jet sweep fumble.

by **SeeRockCity** 2016-09-04, 16:10

Nordic wrote:
SeeRockCity wrote:Was thinking last night. Wonder if CMD pulled RJ after he nonchalantly sauntered OOB on his first catch and run. He was on the sideline all game with helmet in hand afterwards. In order to keep it in-house, CMD says minor injury.

Just thinking out loud. I have to admit, it would make me happy. God bless him, but that dude is constantly mailing it in at the end of a play. This isn't the NFL dude.

Possibly. One of my buddies said they say a trainer rubbing his hammy or something.

I thought Stewart looked pretty good and quick on kick returns. I'd like to see him more. Obviously not so good on the jet sweep fumble.

Ah, maybe I should take off my tinfoil hat. Thanks

As far as Stewart, seems like a world of potential and a great attitude. Will be interesting to see how he develops this year.

by **Turtleneck** 2016-09-04, 17:16

SeeRockCity wrote:
Nordic wrote:

Possibly. One of my buddies said they say a trainer rubbing his hammy or something.

I thought Stewart looked pretty good and quick on kick returns. I'd like to see him more. Obviously not so good on the jet sweep fumble.

Ah, maybe I should take off my tinfoil hat. Thanks

As far as Stewart, seems like a world of potential and a great attitude. Will be interesting to see how he develops this year.

I laughed when he ran out of bounds because my high school coach used to flip out over that very thing. It brought back some memories.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2016-09-04, 17:52

I wonder how SpartanInNH's trip went.

by **tGreenWay** 2016-09-04, 20:37

Turtleneck wrote:
SeeRockCity wrote:

Ah, maybe I should take off my tinfoil hat. Thanks

As far as Stewart, seems like a world of potential and a great attitude. Will be interesting to see how he develops this year.

I laughed when he ran out of bounds because my high school coach used to flip out over that very thing. It brought back some memories.

Sounds like you enjoyed your time as a team manager.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2016-09-04, 20:56

Erf. I'm not watching this whole thing right now but I watched a bit. Hope TOC can improve.

by **DWags** 2016-09-04, 21:20

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Erf. I'm not watching this whole thing right now but I watched a bit. Hope TOC can improve.

Well that was depressing.

Who is the guy breaking it down?

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2016-09-04, 21:23

Just some idiot kid I think. But he's not wrong on a lot of his assessment. I mean there are things he's not seeing (that I'm sure I'm not, either). But in a pro style offense like we run, we can't have a one read QB who doesn't know how to check down.

by **DWags** 2016-09-04, 21:26

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Just some idiot kid I think. But he's not wrong on a lot of his assessment. I mean there are things he's not seeing (that I'm sure I'm not, either). But in a pro style offense like we run, we can't have a one read QB who doesn't know how to check down.

I once yelled "look at Madaris@ during a play Friday and felt embarrassed cause I'm not that guy in the stands. But was a bit frustrated. That kid brought out things I didn't see. But my seats sucked.

by **SeeRockCity** 2016-09-04, 21:28

DWags wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Just some idiot kid I think. But he's not wrong on a lot of his assessment. I mean there are things he's not seeing (that I'm sure I'm not, either). But in a pro style offense like we run, we can't have a one read QB who doesn't know how to check down.

I once yelled "look at Madaris@ during a play Friday and felt embarrassed cause I'm not that guy in the stands. But was a bit frustrated. That kid brought out things I didn't see. But my seats sucked.

I remember that play that Corely was standing there like "WTF I'm wide open."

by **Nordic** 2016-09-04, 21:52

Sit in the north endzone... and for a lot of it's faults two things you can clearly see are how plays develop and the QBs eyes

Haven't watched those vids yet, but I can guess at the main point.

by Herbie Green 2016-09-04, 21:53

Come on don't be idiots. It is not in the vanilla playbook to throw the ball to open receivers against Furman. Do you really think we want to show that to ND on film?

by **Nordic** 2016-09-04, 21:54

Herbie Green wrote:Come on don't be idiots. It is not in the vanilla playbook to throw the ball to open receivers against Furman. Do you really think we want to show that to ND on film?

You are some kinda special idiot.

by **Nordic** 2016-09-04, 21:59

Herbs, do you ever go to a party and tell a joke but no one laughs, so you tell it again? Tip: everyone heard it the first time.

by Herbie Green 2016-09-04, 22:22

I think it is more along the lines of "if I have to explain the joke it probably isn't very funny"
In this case this joke was intended for Pylon only who called me an idiot in the ND thread for not understanding MSU's vanilla playbook approach.

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