Re: 2017/18 Hoops Thread - Unfinished Business.

[Floyd Robertson]

So how does ESPN justify broadcasting an MSU game amid all the turmoil it created?

[Guest]

So how does ESPN justify broadcasting an MSU game amid all the turmoil it created?

[Floyd Robertson]

So how does ESPN justify broadcasting an MSU game amid all the turmoil it created?

You figured that they'd take a stand against MSU, right?

Actually, no. I'd just like to hear their justification.

I imagine it would go something like "innocent until proven guilty."

[DWags]

Collin Hartman is back from an McKenna sprain tonight.

[Guest]

Jaren Jackson Jr. Is the Most Complete Big Man of the 2018 NBA Draft

[Guest]

Really nice Gene Keady article.

Purdue legend Gene Keady coming to Michigan State to pay respects to Jud Heathcote

[MattyFresh]

Really nice Gene Keady article.

Purdue legend Gene Keady coming to Michigan State to pay respects to Jud Heathcote

Is he going to comb his hair with a pork chop? Asking for a friend.

[InTenSity]

#2 team in the country doesn't even have 40 points yet, with 13 minutes left in the 2nd half. Can't imagine the hair pulling if this was Izzo.

[Guest]

Izzo orders day off to refresh ahead of Purdue showdown

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

"Saturday will be Purdue's first top-5 game in almost 30 years. It will be Michigan State's third top-five game of this season."

-3..

[Guest]

Good game story - perhaps we'll get a game thread today.

Michigan State basketball vs. Purdue Boilermakers: 5 things to know

[Guest]

US - @MN @NW IL @WI

tOSU - @PSU @UM RUT @IND

PUR - @WI PSU @IL MN

tOSU has the tough schedule - MSU/PUR should both win out.

[Tim Wakefield]

US - @MN  @NW  IL @WI

tOSU - @PSU @UM  RUT @IND

PUR  - @WI PSU @IL MN

tOSU has the tough schedule - MSU/PUR should both win out.

If they can win all these games, congrats.

Edit: un-bolded Rutger

[WhiteBoyHatcher]

Random thoughts.

It sounds like Miles got intense today. Demanded the ball in the huddle. I like that. His shot was sharp today, he made some really high difficult level jumpers with a hand in his face.

We have so many guys who can be difference makers and haven't shown well lately - JJJ, Ward, Langford. Not entirely their faults. Foul trouble, getting doubled, etc. It would be so lethal to get these 3 back in the flow.

I thought Winston had one of his best games of the year. I think Cassius is the absolute key to this team. He played great perimeter D, and he created. He was intent on creating. He's so good in the lane, with his hesitation dribbles and he has eyes in the back of his head. And if it's not there he can usually sneak a shot in. If Winston plays like this consistently this team can win it all.

[Guest]

Who’s No. 1?

If you’re wondering who will be the top-ranked team in the AP poll on Monday, the answer is fairly obvious: Michigan State will all but assuredly assume the position, thanks to losses by all three teams above it (Villanova, Virginia, Purdue) this week. But if you’re wondering who the best team in the country is, there’s even less clarity than there already has been in this roller-coaster season. The Wildcats, Cavaliers and Boilermakers are all still extremely solid teams that rode the top of the rankings for a month, but their vulnerabilities were on display in the last week. The Spartans are one of the country’s most balanced teams and have now won eight straight, but they aren’t without their own potentially fatal flaws at times—most notably taking care of the ball. Duke’s defense remains a major question mark, and so on. The only thing that seems certain right now is, that unlike many other years, there’s no clear favorite for the national title. This has been a wild, turbulent season so far, and it might wind up bringing one of the most unpredictable NCAA tournaments in recent memory.


https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2018/02/11/who-is-best-team-college-basketball

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

I feel like they say that every year. No clear favorite. Wildest tourney ever. And then when there is a “clear favorite” they aren’t right anyway.

[Guest]

The disrespect is spreading.....

Matt Charboneau @mattcharboneau 1m1 minute ago
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Yesterday @ESPNLunardi had MSU as a 2-seed. Today, MSU is a 3-seed and trending down. Did someone twist an ankle last night or something? This is all so weird.

[AnomanderRake]

^ ESPN has intentionally been messing with us and it's so obvious

[I.B. Fine]

So, apparently State is #2
Virgina inexplicably moves up to #1 despite losing to an unranked team. Interesting.

https://www.landof10.com/big-ten/college-basketball-rankings-ap-poll-top-25-week15

[InTenSity]

So, apparently State is #2
Virgina is #1 despite losing to an unranked team. Interesting.

https://www.landof10.com/big-ten/college-basketball-rankings-ap-poll-top-25-week15

At this rate, we'll be lucky to make the NIT.

[I.B. Fine]

So, apparently State is #2
Virgina is #1 despite losing to an unranked team. Interesting.

https://www.landof10.com/big-ten/college-basketball-rankings-ap-poll-top-25-week15

At this rate, we'll be lucky to make the NIT.

Maybe if we lose to Illinois, we'll be #1 next week and move up to a 2 seed in the Tournament

[InTenSity]

At this rate, we'll be lucky to make the NIT.

Maybe if we lose to Illinois, we'll be #1 next week and move up to a 2 seed in the Tournament

You have it all wrong. If we lose, Illinois will shoot up to a 5 seed, we'll drop to a 10.

[steveschneider]

At this rate, we'll be lucky to make the NIT.

Maybe if we lose to Illinois, we'll be #1 next week and move up to a 2 seed in the Tournament

lol lol!!!

[I.B. Fine]

I will not link, and am reluctant to admit I even looked, but the asshats at ESPN have State at #5 on their 'Power Rankings" behind #4, Purdue.
It's all just great bulletin board material for Izzo.

[DWags]

At this rate, we'll be lucky to make the NIT.

Maybe if we lose to Illinois, we'll be #1 next week and move up to a 2 seed in the Tournament

[steveschneider]

I will not link, and am reluctant to admit I even looked, but the asshats at ESPN have State at #5 on their 'Power Rankings" behind #4, Purdue.
It's all just great bulletin board material for Izzo.

Reflects worse on them than us. Bunch of idiots.

[InTenSity]

#1 in USA Today Poll.
Steadily falling in teh selection committee eyes.

[Nordic]

At this rate, we'll be lucky to make the NIT.

Maybe if we lose to Illinois, we'll be #1 next week and move up to a 2 seed in the Tournament

It should help our RPI

[steveschneider]

So if Tom Izzo goes out and answers the fucking questions does that mean we move up in the polls?

[Watch Out Pylon!]

So if Tom Izzo goes out and answers the fucking questions does that mean we move up in the polls?

Nope, cuz another news cycle in the spotlight and more questions with not enough answers. Probably will drop us to a 7 seed actually.

[InTenSity]

So if Tom Izzo goes out and answers the fucking questions does that mean we move up in the polls?

Here's what I don't like about those saying he has to go answer questions. That's BS. They want to put him on trial. It won't just be answering questions, they want him to say that he fucked up. That he covered it up. I don't see how its anything but a lose lose situation. If he doesn't talk, the media roasts him for not talking. If he talks, but denies knowing about anything, they will say he doesn't have control of his team. If he says he was aware of some events, but not the specifics, they will say he was covering for his players. There is no way to come out of answering anything. Especially since Vitale is looking for accountability, or whatever.
Izzo is best waiting until after the season IMO, and even then I'm not sure what he can come out and say.

[Clarett's Folly]

So if Tom Izzo goes out and answers the fucking questions does that mean we move up in the polls?

Here's what I don't like about those saying he has to go answer questions. That's BS. They want to put him on trial. It won't just be answering questions, they want him to say that he fucked up. That he covered it up. I don't see how its anything but a lose lose situation. If he doesn't talk, the media roasts him for not talking. If he talks, but denies knowing about anything, they will say he doesn't have control of his team. If he says he was aware of some events, but not the specifics, they will say he was covering for his players. There is no way to come out of answering anything. Especially since Vitale is looking for accountability, or whatever.
Izzo is best waiting until after the season IMO, and even then I'm not sure what he can come out and say.

You're right. And I've reached the point where I just put it back on the people saying he needs to talk to the media.

For what?
For the sexual assaults.
The gymnastics ones?
No the basketball ones.
What basketball ones?
The ones he covered up.
Which ones were those?
Appling and Payne.
The ones that went to the DA and were all over MLive?
Well the Walton one then.
Which one was that?
Travis Walton.
From after Walton was off the team?
He was an assistant.
Where the victim's parents refused to go to the police?
Yes...
Tom Izzo covered up a sexual assault from a former player who was no longer on the team where the police never got involved?
Yes.

And scene.

[tGreenWay]

Here's what I don't like about those saying he has to go answer questions. That's BS. They want to put him on trial. It won't just be answering questions, they want him to say that he fucked up. That he covered it up. I don't see how its anything but a lose lose situation. If he doesn't talk, the media roasts him for not talking. If he talks, but denies knowing about anything, they will say he doesn't have control of his team. If he says he was aware of some events, but not the specifics, they will say he was covering for his players. There is no way to come out of answering anything. Especially since Vitale is looking for accountability, or whatever.
Izzo is best waiting until after the season IMO, and even then I'm not sure what he can come out and say.

You're right. And I've reached the point where I just put it back on the people saying he needs to talk to the media.

For what?
For the sexual assaults.
The gymnastics ones?
No the basketball ones.
What basketball ones?
The ones he covered up.
Which ones were those?
Appling and Payne.
The ones that went to the DA and were all over MLive?
Well the Walton one then.
Which one was that?
Travis Walton.
From after Walton was off the team?
He was an assistant.
Where the victim's parents refused to go to the police?
Yes...
Tom Izzo covered up a sexual assault from a former player who was no longer on the team where the police never got involved?
Yes.

And scene.

These would be good questions to tweet at Paula Lavigne and Dick Vitale.

[Floyd Robertson]

Here's what I don't like about those saying he has to go answer questions. That's BS. They want to put him on trial. It won't just be answering questions, they want him to say that he fucked up. That he covered it up. I don't see how its anything but a lose lose situation. If he doesn't talk, the media roasts him for not talking. If he talks, but denies knowing about anything, they will say he doesn't have control of his team. If he says he was aware of some events, but not the specifics, they will say he was covering for his players. There is no way to come out of answering anything. Especially since Vitale is looking for accountability, or whatever.
Izzo is best waiting until after the season IMO, and even then I'm not sure what he can come out and say.

You're right. And I've reached the point where I just put it back on the people saying he needs to talk to the media.

For what?
For the sexual assaults.
The gymnastics ones?
No the basketball ones.
What basketball ones?
The ones he covered up.
Which ones were those?
Appling and Payne.
The ones that went to the DA and were all over MLive?
Well the Walton one then.
Which one was that?
Travis Walton.
From after Walton was off the team?
He was an assistant.
Where the victim's parents refused to go to the police?
Yes...
Tom Izzo covered up a sexual assault from a former player who was no longer on the team where the police never got involved?
Yes.

And scene.

Bravo.

[steveschneider]

Here's what I don't like about those saying he has to go answer questions. That's BS. They want to put him on trial. It won't just be answering questions, they want him to say that he fucked up. That he covered it up. I don't see how its anything but a lose lose situation. If he doesn't talk, the media roasts him for not talking. If he talks, but denies knowing about anything, they will say he doesn't have control of his team. If he says he was aware of some events, but not the specifics, they will say he was covering for his players. There is no way to come out of answering anything. Especially since Vitale is looking for accountability, or whatever.
Izzo is best waiting until after the season IMO, and even then I'm not sure what he can come out and say.

You're right. And I've reached the point where I just put it back on the people saying he needs to talk to the media.

For what?
For the sexual assaults.
The gymnastics ones?
No the basketball ones.
What basketball ones?
The ones he covered up.
Which ones were those?
Appling and Payne.
The ones that went to the DA and were all over MLive?
Well the Walton one then.
Which one was that?
Travis Walton.
From after Walton was off the team?
He was an assistant.
Where the victim's parents refused to go to the police?
Yes...
Tom Izzo covered up a sexual assault from a former player who was no longer on the team where the police never got involved?
Yes.

And scene.

Exactly!!!

[DWags]

Here's what I don't like about those saying he has to go answer questions. That's BS. They want to put him on trial. It won't just be answering questions, they want him to say that he fucked up. That he covered it up. I don't see how its anything but a lose lose situation. If he doesn't talk, the media roasts him for not talking. If he talks, but denies knowing about anything, they will say he doesn't have control of his team. If he says he was aware of some events, but not the specifics, they will say he was covering for his players. There is no way to come out of answering anything. Especially since Vitale is looking for accountability, or whatever.
Izzo is best waiting until after the season IMO, and even then I'm not sure what he can come out and say.

You're right. And I've reached the point where I just put it back on the people saying he needs to talk to the media.

For what?
For the sexual assaults.
The gymnastics ones?
No the basketball ones.
What basketball ones?
The ones he covered up.
Which ones were those?
Appling and Payne.
The ones that went to the DA and were all over MLive?
Well the Walton one then.
Which one was that?
Travis Walton.
From after Walton was off the team?
He was an assistant.
Where the victim's parents refused to go to the police?
Yes...
Tom Izzo covered up a sexual assault from a former player who was no longer on the team where the police never got involved?
Yes.

And scene.

Will you be my lawyer if I need one?

[Clarett's Folly]

You're right. And I've reached the point where I just put it back on the people saying he needs to talk to the media.

For what?
For the sexual assaults.
The gymnastics ones?
No the basketball ones.
What basketball ones?
The ones he covered up.
Which ones were those?
Appling and Payne.
The ones that went to the DA and were all over MLive?
Well the Walton one then.
Which one was that?
Travis Walton.
From after Walton was off the team?
He was an assistant.
Where the victim's parents refused to go to the police?
Yes...
Tom Izzo covered up a sexual assault from a former player who was no longer on the team where the police never got involved?
Yes.

And scene.

Will you be my lawyer if I need one?

I mostly focus on bird law.

[Guest]

Until we get a game day thread.,....

No. 1 Michigan State (24-3, 12-2 Big Ten) at Minnesota (14-13, 3-11)

When: 9 p.m. tonight.

Where: Breslin Center, East Lansing.

TV: ESPN2.

Radio: WJR-AM (760). (Spartans' radio affiliates).

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2018/02/13/michigan-state-basketball-score/328084002/

[Nordic]

Until we get a game day thread.,....

No. 1 Michigan State (24-3, 12-2 Big Ten) at Minnesota (14-13, 3-11)

When: 9 p.m. tonight.

Where: Breslin Center, East Lansing.

TV: ESPN2.

Radio: WJR-AM (760). (Spartans' radio affiliates).

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2018/02/13/michigan-state-basketball-score/328084002/

[Watch Out Pylon!]

Until we get a game day thread.,....

No. 1 Michigan State (24-3, 12-2 Big Ten) at Minnesota (14-13, 3-11)

When: 9 p.m. tonight.

Where: Breslin Center, East Lansing.

TV: ESPN2.

Radio: WJR-AM (760). (Spartans' radio affiliates).

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2018/02/13/michigan-state-basketball-score/328084002/

Breslin Northwest.

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