Re: Election Game 2016 - The political thread that Travis won't move

[Watch Out Pylon!]

Checking in from the south side of Chicago. The city has not burned down. Repeat, Chicago is still standing.

[Guest]

I almost sullied our pistons thread but since only Goose and otpt click on it anyway, and they're both here, I'll just sully this thread.

SVG went off.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2016/11/09/detroit-pistons-stan-van-gundy/93551178/

Yeah, I read that. Doesn't mean much to me, low info voter scared by the press.

[Guest]

Interesting how many people in MI voted for neither:

Freddie ‏@freddiedeboer 21m21 minutes ago
Number of ballots that recorded no vote for either presidential candidate were greater than the number of Stein or Johnson voters in MI.

[Blanch32]

I'm not allowed to talk politics with family anymore. My dad and I almost came to blows. Everything else is fine, but we are complete opposites politically.

Shocking!!!!

[Guest]

super czar ‏@Kristokoff 1h1 hour ago
Dow surges 300 points; financials leap 4% after Trump win http://cnb.cx/2fCxCSr #tcot #tpp

[NigelUno]

I almost sullied our pistons thread but since only Goose and otpt click on it anyway, and they're both here, I'll just sully this thread.

SVG went off.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2016/11/09/detroit-pistons-stan-van-gundy/93551178/

Yeah, I read that. Doesn't mean much to me, low info voter scared by the press.

Did he call Trump an asshole...like you did?

[Travis of the Cosmos]

I almost sullied our pistons thread but since only Goose and otpt click on it anyway, and they're both here, I'll just sully this thread.

SVG went off.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2016/11/09/detroit-pistons-stan-van-gundy/93551178/

Yeah, I read that. Doesn't mean much to me, low info voter scared by the press.

I would love to know your threshold for "low info." Im pretty sure the line is somewhere around a minimum of 4-5 brietbart articles a day.

[Guest]

Even if one thinks that Donald Trump’s election means nothing much at all — that it was the product of Hillary’s weakness or of Trump’s celebrity or of James Comey or what you will — one has to account for the massive Republican wave that came in underneath Trump (the second wave in three years, note).

Republicans won the House for the tenth time in twelve elections, racking up a massive majority for the second election in a row.

They lost only two seats in the Senate, leaving their total at 52.

They improved upon their already-remarkable position in the states, bringing their count to 33 governor’s mansions and most than two-thirds of state legislatures. Hell, they won the governorship of Vermont, took complete control of Minnesota’s legislature, tied the state senate in Connecticut, and improved their position in Illinois (which has a GOP governor who can now use his veto). And they did so not with a mid-term electorate, but during a presidential race.

This was a wave. A “repudiation,” if you will

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Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/442051/not-repudiation

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

It ain't worth it trav, nigel. Bob jr.

[Guest]

Yeah, I read that. Doesn't mean much to me, low info voter scared by the press.

Did he call Trump an asshole...like you did?

So in this iteration I DO hate Trump? LOL. OK.

[Guest]

Yeah, I read that. Doesn't mean much to me, low info voter scared by the press.

I would love to know your threshold for "low info." Im pretty sure the line is somewhere around a minimum of 4-5 brietbart articles a day.

If that's what you read. I've not read even one from that site in probably 3-6 months. I'll try to catch up with you.

[Death Roe]

Dems pre-election: "Need to stay together as a country and unite to be stronger no matter who wins"

Dems post-election: "FUCK YOU TRUMP SUPPORTERS I HATE YOU ALL"

This Dem hasn't said a negative word about Trump or his supporters since last night. In fact, I've given him credit for doing what he needed to do to win. I've only blamed HRC and the Dems for the results.

I believe we need to unite, and I believe we CAN unite. Whether it happens or not will depend on how Trump chooses to govern. It could go either way.

I... I actually agree with Vlad?

My head hurts

[Travis of the Cosmos]

I would love to know your threshold for "low info." Im pretty sure the line is somewhere around a minimum of 4-5 brietbart articles a day.

If that's what you read. I've not read even one from that site in probably 3-6 months. I'll try to catch up with you.

No, I'd just like to know how you've established that SVG, is "low info." For all you know he is a hell of a lot more informed than you... he just happens to not agree with you. So I guess that's the threshold for being informed.

[Guest]

The media obviously plays a part in elections, perceptions, whatever..but to keep considering legitimate concerns or ("scare shit") about Trump's presidency is solely a creation of the media?

Like - you've got to be shitting me? How is this not fucked in your head?

Read just these 2 gems from today and tell me again that the media isn't trying to scare the shit out of people???

White Won

Seventeen months after he announced his candidacy, millions of white Americans flocked to the ballot box to put Trump into the White House. And they did so as a white herrenvolk, racialized and radicalized by Trump.

AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY

All along, Trump seemed like a twisted caricature of every rotten reflex of the radical right. That he has prevailed, that he has won this election, is a crushing blow to the spirit; it is an event that will likely cast the country into a period of economic, political, and social uncertainty that we cannot yet imagine. That the electorate has, in its plurality, decided to live in Trump’s world of vanity, hate, arrogance, untruth, and recklessness, his disdain for democratic norms, is a fact that will lead, inevitably, to all manner of national decline and suffering.

[NigelUno]

Did he call Trump an asshole...like you did?

So in this iteration I DO hate Trump? LOL. OK.

You did call Trump an asshole. Are you a low info voter as well?

[Other Teams Pursuing That]

OTPT: but to keep considering legitimate concerns or ("scare shit") about Trump's presidency is solely a creation of the media?

Goose: tell me again that the media isn't trying to scare the shit out of people???

You're just dumb. Nice straw man argument, AGAIN. Maybe with all that free time go pursue some more education so you're able to hold a discussion. #SmugElitist

[NigelUno]

The media obviously plays a part in elections, perceptions, whatever..but to keep considering legitimate concerns or ("scare shit") about Trump's presidency is solely a creation of the media?

Like - you've got to be shitting me? How is this not fucked in your head?

Read just these 2 gems from today and tell me again that the media isn't trying to scare the shit out of people???

White Won

Seventeen months after he announced his candidacy, millions of white Americans flocked to the ballot box to put Trump into the White House. And they did so as a white herrenvolk, racialized and radicalized by Trump.

AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY

All along, Trump seemed like a twisted caricature of every rotten reflex of the radical right. That he has prevailed, that he has won this election, is a crushing blow to the spirit; it is an event that will likely cast the country into a period of economic, political, and social uncertainty that we cannot yet imagine. That the electorate has, in its plurality, decided to live in Trump’s world of vanity, hate, arrogance, untruth, and recklessness, his disdain for democratic norms, is a fact that will lead, inevitably, to all manner of national decline and suffering.

YOU called Trump an asshole. Did the media scare you into saying that, or did you draw your own conclusions?

[Watch Out Pylon!]

[NigelUno]

Stop trying to scare everyone!

[Nordic]

Agree. Although I'm not sure what "price" you're talking about. I'm still holding out hope that he can truly act like an independent and bring some sanity to Washington.

Now, if you're referring to start wars or going backwards on social issues, then yes, that would be heavy price. But I'm hoping he doesn't go there, simply because he's shown no history of being far right on social issues.

Yes, the price depends on what he does.  At a minimum, we pay the price in pride/embarrassment for having a piece of shit misogynist as President.  At a maximum, well, god forbid he continues to say/do things that he said and threatened to do on the campaign trail.

I hope that now that he got what he wanted, that he'll be rational.  His acceptance speech was surprising in that it was calm and reasonable.  I was more surprised by that, than I would have been if his acceptance speech consisted of "Suck it, bitch!"  

My hope is that, as a businessman, he knows that he must surround himself with smart people that know what they're doing and aren't just Yes men/women.  If that fails, then my hope is that the Republicans in Congress still hold enough resentment over him being a party outsider, that they stand up to him.  A lot of the things people fear that he'll do, aren't possible for him to do without Congress.  So if he tries to push some of his crazy/dangerous shit that he talked about, they need to check and balance that.

I could two fucks what some shit in a British pub or my Canadian freinds up North think.  Was flipping around XM in the car and the BBC reporters were getting a kick out of interviewing people from other countries. Also got a call from a Canadian I work with and he asked "how I was doing?" like a member of my family died.

Half of what we saw was schtick, especially early on. He was doing what he needed to do to get attention and tear down 'the establishment'. It somehow worked, because people are hoping for economic change and tired of politicians.

I don't think he is dumb enough to keep being a complete jackass for the simple reason that he'll want to get re-elected. People won't continue to turn a blind eye to it now that he is the boss. Hopefully he realizes this. But I bet he breaks it out at key times like before any big confrontation with congress or a world leader we're struggling with.

TL/DNR version: My hope is the same as yours.

[xsanguine]

Im typically the type that likes to confront things of this nature but outside of political discussions i really value their friendships and i love them... And theyre the type that would defriend you (both digitally and in reality) if you disagree with their political views. So i walk on eggshells and do my best to change the subject. I know, im pathetic... But unlike message boards id rather continue enjoying their company than lose it over wanting to share my views.

This is about the only place I talk politics. And with close friends and family. It's not worth it elsewhere

It can be constructive, but only with people who can keep things in perspective. I've never gotten angry with someone who disagrees with me about a political issue. It's weird. This whole thing is weird. True colors and all, but they won't see it that way.

[Cameron]

The president America deserves.

[NigelUno]

The president America deserves.

[The Pantry]

The president America deserves.

Hillary was the one it deserved if it wanted 4 more years of politics, raising taxes while running up the national debt, and getting nothing done.

Tremendous success running businesses because Trump surrounds himself with smart people. Expect his cabinet to be loaded with the same...unlike career politicians that generally pick other career politicians for past favors. Will be nice to see the country run like a business instead of a soup kitchen. He'll get stuff done, especially since the GOP owns the house and senate.

Libs seem very upset today. I can sympathize. They probably feel like I did when Slick Willy got elected and when Obama got re-elected.

Yes, Trump was brash during the campaign. The media loves drama...it's what they do best to create more drama with. Trump won despite the media stirring maybe 80% of the turds in Hillary's favor.

I expect Trump to settle-in well and calm many raw nerves. His acceptance speech was unifying and gracious.

[InTenSity]

The president America deserves.

Hillary was the one it deserved if it wanted 4 more years of politics, raising taxes while running up the national debt, and getting nothing done.

Tremendous success running businesses because Trump surrounds himself with smart people. Expect his cabinet to be loaded with the same...unlike career politicians that generally pick other career politicians for past favors. Will be nice to see the country run like a business instead of a soup kitchen. He'll get stuff done, especially since the GOP owns the house and senate.

Libs seem very upset today. I can sympathize. They probably feel like I did when Slick Willy got elected and when Obama got re-elected.

Yes, Trump was brash during the campaign. The media loves drama...it's what they do best to create more drama with. Trump won despite the media stirring maybe 80% of the turds in Hillary's favor.

I expect Trump to settle-in well and calm many raw nerves. His acceptance speech was unifying and gracious.

Trump cares about trump. We're fucked.

[CORNER BLITZ]

Dems pre-election: "Need to stay together as a country and unite to be stronger no matter who wins"

Dems post-election: "FUCK YOU TRUMP SUPPORTERS I HATE YOU ALL"

Do you guys actually deal/interact with these types?

That's a good 75% of my facebook wall right now

[DWags]

Do you guys actually deal/interact with these types?

That's a good 75% of my facebook wall right now

Opposite for me. Victory dances abound.

We're a pretty divided country.

But these protesters are asinine. I would bet a million dollars many of them didn't vote yesterday.

[NigelUno]

The president America deserves.

Hillary was the one it deserved if it wanted 4 more years of politics, raising taxes while running up the national debt, and getting nothing done.

Tremendous success running businesses because Trump surrounds himself with smart people. Expect his cabinet to be loaded with the same...unlike career politicians that generally pick other career politicians for past favors. Will be nice to see the country run like a business instead of a soup kitchen. He'll get stuff done, especially since the GOP owns the house and senate.

Libs seem very upset today. I can sympathize. They probably feel like I did when Slick Willy got elected and when Obama got re-elected.

Yes, Trump was brash during the campaign. The media loves drama...it's what they do best to create more drama with. Trump won despite the media stirring maybe 80% of the turds in Hillary's favor.

I expect Trump to settle-in well and calm many raw nerves. His acceptance speech was unifying and gracious.

Do you hold the (past) Republican House and Senate accountable for helping to run up the National Debt?

[CORNER BLITZ]

Celebs didn't take it well

[CORNER BLITZ]

Invest in safe spaces

https://twitter.com/dailynexus/status/796429783013826560

[CORNER BLITZ]

But the winner of twitter






   

[The Pantry]

Hillary was the one it deserved if it wanted 4 more years of politics, raising taxes while running up the national debt, and getting nothing done.

Tremendous success running businesses because Trump surrounds himself with smart people. Expect his cabinet to be loaded with the same...unlike career politicians that generally pick other career politicians for past favors. Will be nice to see the country run like a business instead of a soup kitchen. He'll get stuff done, especially since the GOP owns the house and senate.

Libs seem very upset today. I can sympathize. They probably feel like I did when Slick Willy got elected and when Obama got re-elected.

Yes, Trump was brash during the campaign. The media loves drama...it's what they do best to create more drama with. Trump won despite the media stirring maybe 80% of the turds in Hillary's favor.

I expect Trump to settle-in well and calm many raw nerves. His acceptance speech was unifying and gracious.

Do you hold the (past) Republican House and Senate accountable for helping to run up the National Debt?

Yes. Another good reason there should be term limits to both and no more golden parachutes.

[xsanguine]

Invest in safe spaces

https://twitter.com/dailynexus/status/796429783013826560

Jesus H... this phenomenon is far more troubling than any reality tv star winning the election.

[The Pantry]

Hillary was the one it deserved if it wanted 4 more years of politics, raising taxes while running up the national debt, and getting nothing done.

Tremendous success running businesses because Trump surrounds himself with smart people. Expect his cabinet to be loaded with the same...unlike career politicians that generally pick other career politicians for past favors. Will be nice to see the country run like a business instead of a soup kitchen. He'll get stuff done, especially since the GOP owns the house and senate.

Libs seem very upset today. I can sympathize. They probably feel like I did when Slick Willy got elected and when Obama got re-elected.

Yes, Trump was brash during the campaign. The media loves drama...it's what they do best to create more drama with. Trump won despite the media stirring maybe 80% of the turds in Hillary's favor.

I expect Trump to settle-in well and calm many raw nerves. His acceptance speech was unifying and gracious.

Trump cares about trump. We're fucked.

Can understand you not taking this well.

It will turn out better than you think.

[CORNER BLITZ]

Jesus H... this phenomenon is far more troubling than any reality tv star winning the election.

If you don't feel good at work you can just not do it, so they'll be fine in the future

[DWags]

Jesus H... this phenomenon is far more troubling than any reality tv star winning the election.

If you don't feel good at work you can just not do it, so they'll be fine in the future

What college was that first email and last notice from?

[xsanguine]

Jesus H... this phenomenon is far more troubling than any reality tv star winning the election.

If you don't feel good at work you can just not do it, so they'll be fine in the future

Poor work ethic.

[DWags]

The president America deserves.

Hillary was the one it deserved if it wanted 4 more years of politics, raising taxes while running up the national debt, and getting nothing done.

Tremendous success running businesses because Trump surrounds himself with smart people. Expect his cabinet to be loaded with the same...unlike career politicians that generally pick other career politicians for past favors. Will be nice to see the country run like a business instead of a soup kitchen. He'll get stuff done, especially since the GOP owns the house and senate.

Libs seem very upset today. I can sympathize. They probably feel like I did when Slick Willy got elected and when Obama got re-elected.

Yes, Trump was brash during the campaign. The media loves drama...it's what they do best to create more drama with. Trump won despite the media stirring maybe 80% of the turds in Hillary's favor.

I expect Trump to settle-in well and calm many raw nerves. His acceptance speech was unifying and gracious.

Agree. Much more gracious than many posts in threads,tweets on twitter and Facebook posts are that I've read. Hers was too today.

Country hates each other.

[Tim Wakefield]

Disgusted at the people saying they're ashamed/not proud to be American. Did I want that fucker to win? No. But i'm not gonna talk shit about the US. Gtfo if you hate it so much

[CORNER BLITZ]

If you don't feel good at work you can just not do it, so they'll be fine in the future

What college was that first email and last notice from?

optional test was from Yale

notice was from an NY university - Binghamton

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