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MSU to name Beekman new permanent AD on Monday
Weird. How do you name an AD before you have a President?
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Does he approve of tailgating and other sins?
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#1 priority for new AD - fights for your right to party.
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I can see why they are. It gives the current board some say in the direction of the athletic department (whether you agree or disagree with them doing anything, you can bet that is why they are naming him now). With the scrutiny that the hiring of the President will get, who knows what's going to happen and what their feelings on athletics will be. While he/she could fire Beekman, I doubt they will do that right away unless there is some strong justification.WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Weird. How do you name an AD before you have a President?
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Anybody know anything about this guy?
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WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:#1 priority for new AD - fights for your right to party.
He’ll never do this and we will be light years behind .... as usual
Oklahoma State will join two other schools selling beer in their stadium.
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Glad we held out on the uofm night game too
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Look, let’s all agree MSU will never make the game day experience great for fans and alumni. If this new guys throws out five or ten more port-a-potties I’ll be pleasantly surprised
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tGreenWay wrote:Anybody know anything about this guy?
No athletic management experience. Hope he's a short termer. I'm guessing no one in demand would take the job before a permanent president is named.
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Sad thing that I didn't even know the meaning of until my late teens. I grew up near Lansing, and school kids used to label kids "beekmans" (meaning mentally retarded) when I was in grade school because of the association with the Beekman Center.
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Heat Miser wrote:tGreenWay wrote:Anybody know anything about this guy?
No athletic management experience. Hope he's a short termer. I'm guessing no one in demand would take the job before a permanent president is named.
That makes the most sense, Heat. The next long term AD will be likely be charged with making massive decisions on replacements for when TI and MD eventually retire.
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I wondered what the guy had been up to lately.
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Floyd Robertson wrote:I wondered what the guy had been up to lately.
I think the guy on the left is in jail?
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kingstonlake wrote:Floyd Robertson wrote:I wondered what the guy had been up to lately.
I think the guy on the left is in jail?
Never did any time, actually. Parole and sex registry.
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tGreenWay wrote:Anybody know anything about this guy?
One of the few people not to step on their dick during this whole mess. Sounds good to me.
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Harns said he did some digging today and he is told that this is not a "temporary" permanent hire but I have some doubts about that. When they get a new Prez in that may change.
I think it's probably a good thing to appoint someone right now to help take some bullets that are probably coming and not leave D/Iz on an island with no AD support. And I hear the criticism that outside voices are needed but I think that if you need someone in there right now, an internal hire and continuity, and as Nordy said someone who hasn't royally fucked things up, probably a good thing.
I think it's probably a good thing to appoint someone right now to help take some bullets that are probably coming and not leave D/Iz on an island with no AD support. And I hear the criticism that outside voices are needed but I think that if you need someone in there right now, an internal hire and continuity, and as Nordy said someone who hasn't royally fucked things up, probably a good thing.
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MSU taking a beating again in the press and on the social media circuit for hiring from "within".
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WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:MSU taking a beating again in the press and on the social media circuit for hiring from "within".
I’m at the “I just don’t give a fuck what they say” point.
We could hire Marilee Dean Baker and she could have three victims as her assistants and we’d be critiqued for not putting Paula Lavign and Dan Murphy on the staff.
Fuck the torpedoes from here on out.
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this - there is a certain very vocal percentage that will never, ever - under any circumstances - be happy with anything.DWags wrote:WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:MSU taking a beating again in the press and on the social media circuit for hiring from "within".
I’m at the “I just don’t give a fuck what they say” point.
We could hire Marilee Dean Baker and she could have three victims as her assistants and we’d be critiqued for not putting Paula Lavign and Dan Murphy on the staff.
Fuck the torpedoes from here on out.
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Who doesn’t take a beating on social media? Fucking losers.
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Pretty interesting perspective. I don’t follow this shit closely enough but his ties to the current board of trustees (which has been a complete shit show) could be a concern.
https://twitter.com/justin4msu/status/1018911439300517888
https://twitter.com/justin4msu/status/1018911439300517888
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WKAR AM 1pm sportscast just played audio from the BOT meeting and then and interview with Beekman.
I certainly want Beekman to succeed, but to listen to the BOT meeting (and you should if they archive it) it is anything but a deep look at finding an AD. He served with the BOT for years as secretary, and the optics of promising to do a national search and stating that there were no internal candidates considered makes Engler and the BOT look like idiots or liars.
I would think that todays show will be available here, later today or tomorrow.
http://wkar.org/programs/current-sports-al-martin
I've read Harnes take on hiring - https://www.isportsweb.com/2018/07/16/opportunity-missed-spartan-stakeholders-wanted-an-outside-athletic-director-to-re-establish-trust-belief/
My biggest concern is that if the BOT can unanimously support hiring Beekman because he understands MSU and has done a great job, then what is to stop them from making the same assessment and naming Engler as permanent President???
I certainly want Beekman to succeed, but to listen to the BOT meeting (and you should if they archive it) it is anything but a deep look at finding an AD. He served with the BOT for years as secretary, and the optics of promising to do a national search and stating that there were no internal candidates considered makes Engler and the BOT look like idiots or liars.
I would think that todays show will be available here, later today or tomorrow.
http://wkar.org/programs/current-sports-al-martin
I've read Harnes take on hiring - https://www.isportsweb.com/2018/07/16/opportunity-missed-spartan-stakeholders-wanted-an-outside-athletic-director-to-re-establish-trust-belief/
My biggest concern is that if the BOT can unanimously support hiring Beekman because he understands MSU and has done a great job, then what is to stop them from making the same assessment and naming Engler as permanent President???
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Wally Fairway wrote:WKAR AM 1pm sportscast just played audio from the BOT meeting and then and interview with Beekman.
I certainly want Beekman to succeed, but to listen to the BOT meeting (and you should if they archive it) it is anything but a deep look at finding an AD. He served with the BOT for years as secretary, and the optics of promising to do a national search and stating that there were no internal candidates considered makes Engler and the BOT look like idiots or liars.
I would think that todays show will be available here, later today or tomorrow.
http://wkar.org/programs/current-sports-al-martin
I've read Harnes take on hiring - https://www.isportsweb.com/2018/07/16/opportunity-missed-spartan-stakeholders-wanted-an-outside-athletic-director-to-re-establish-trust-belief/
My biggest concern is that if the BOT can unanimously support hiring Beekman because he understands MSU and has done a great job, then what is to stop them from making the same assessment and naming Engler as permanent President???
Thought this was a good take and similar to the points you are making.
https://twitter.com/annaliznichols/status/1019212703158669313
I’m encouraged that there’s some smart people raising their voices and getting involved to make MSU better.
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If this is what Izzo and Dantonio want, Then this is a perfect hire.
(until they are gone)
(until they are gone)
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AvgMSUJoe wrote:If this is what Izzo and Dantonio want, Then this is a perfect hire.
(until they are gone)
I suspect neither wanted an outsider eager to make his(her) mark by hiring a new coach in a major sport.
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Listening to Beekman’s voice in some video i ran across on social media was miserable. Nails on a chalk board that made me want to fall asleep
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Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:Listening to Beekman’s voice in some video i ran across on social media was miserable. Nails on a chalk board that made me want to fall asleep
Nails on a chalkboard make you want to fall asleep? Is that how your mother would get you to sleep, by dragging her nails on a chalkboard? That same sound makes me cringe, not sleep.
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So Hollis' wife... What's the angle here?
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/2020/10/30/nancy-mark-hollis-msu-michigan-state-athletic-director-bill-beekman-larry-nassar/6083202002/
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/2020/10/30/nancy-mark-hollis-msu-michigan-state-athletic-director-bill-beekman-larry-nassar/6083202002/
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No idea. This seemed to pop up out of nowhere. Makes me wonder if there’s been some back room talks going on, aside from the one call w/Byrum. Could be a political move meant to damage BOTS right before the election. Could be an angry wife seeking vengeance for her husband. Or, it could be exactly as she claims; wanting to get the 6,000 pages made public. Revealing those pages could prove Beekman was a part of the problem long before he took over as AD. Or she might think those 6,000 pages might in some way vindicate her husband. Who the hell knows. Please, just make this shit go away.
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Mrs Hollis has axes to grind and looks to be singling out specific BOT members she’s deemed as disloyal to her husband.
At this point I’m viewing Hollis’ wife as the angry spouse who is really missing the limelight and perks that went with her husband’s job(s) at MSU before the Nassar mess exposed Mark Hollis to be indifferent and tone deaf.
At this point I’m viewing Hollis’ wife as the angry spouse who is really missing the limelight and perks that went with her husband’s job(s) at MSU before the Nassar mess exposed Mark Hollis to be indifferent and tone deaf.
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Not a lot of good things happen behind the scenes on the department
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Beekman out.
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Floyd Robertson wrote:Beekman out.
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In other news, MSU set to hire Elgin Bates, father of Emoni Bates, as new AD.
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esoteric job titles are my favorite.MSU News @MSUnews
Bill Beekman, vice president and director of intercollegiate athletics, will be taking on a new role as vice president for strategic initiatives.
"yeah, I'm taking another position within the organization.. I'll be the new VP of External Outreach and Strategic Internal Initiatives"..
sounds like kind of a fancy way of saying "they created a job for me because I know where the bodies are buried".
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This free's up room for Izzo to take over the AD. That or Dantonio returning.
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Dantonio is not an athletic director
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A Message Regarding MSU Athletics Leadership Transition
"Long-term leadership". I suspect they'll be looking for someone a bit younger. Alan Haller seems to be the internal front-runner.
MSU Athletics wrote:BILL BEEKMAN TO REJOIN UNIVERSITY ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM AS VICE PRESIDENT FOR STRATEGIC INITIATIVES
Michigan State University President Samuel L. Stanley Jr., M.D. today announced that current Vice President and Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Bill Beekman will transition back to the university administrative team and a national search will begin for a new athletic director at MSU.
Beekman will become Vice President for Strategic Initiatives, a newly created position, and help implement the university’s efforts to execute the new strategic plan that will be shared with campus this fall. This appointment is pending Board of Trustees approval at its September meeting.
“Bill stepped in to help our athletic department during a time of change and turmoil, and we thank him for that,” Stanley said. “That department is in a better place now and ready to look for long-term leadership to propel us to a new, national- leading level. And I’m grateful that Bill can return to the administrative group and use his significant skills and institutional knowledge to help coordinate our strategic planning implantation efforts.”
A national search firm will be secured to lead the search for a new athletic director. Next steps regarding the search process will be announced soon. Beekman will continue to lead the athletic department while the search for a new athletic director is underway.
"Long-term leadership". I suspect they'll be looking for someone a bit younger. Alan Haller seems to be the internal front-runner.
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Poor Moose will be so sad.
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Funny. I've heard two people who work in the 1855 building use these exact words about Beekman.
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sounds like kind of a fancy way of saying "they created a job for me because I know where the bodies are buried".
Funny. I've heard two people who work in the 1855 building use these exact words about Beekman.
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Heat Miser wrote:A Message Regarding MSU Athletics Leadership TransitionMSU Athletics wrote:BILL BEEKMAN TO REJOIN UNIVERSITY ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM AS VICE PRESIDENT FOR STRATEGIC INITIATIVES
Michigan State University President Samuel L. Stanley Jr., M.D. today announced that current Vice President and Director of Intercollegiate Athletics Bill Beekman will transition back to the university administrative team and a national search will begin for a new athletic director at MSU.
Beekman will become Vice President for Strategic Initiatives, a newly created position, and help implement the university’s efforts to execute the new strategic plan that will be shared with campus this fall. This appointment is pending Board of Trustees approval at its September meeting.
“Bill stepped in to help our athletic department during a time of change and turmoil, and we thank him for that,” Stanley said. “That department is in a better place now and ready to look for long-term leadership to propel us to a new, national- leading level. And I’m grateful that Bill can return to the administrative group and use his significant skills and institutional knowledge to help coordinate our strategic planning implantation efforts.”
A national search firm will be secured to lead the search for a new athletic director. Next steps regarding the search process will be announced soon. Beekman will continue to lead the athletic department while the search for a new athletic director is underway.
"Long-term leadership". I suspect they'll be looking for someone a bit younger. Alan Haller seems to be the internal front-runner.
I'd be more than good with Haller. He's a very impressive guy.
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