Elizabeth Warren and her Anti-Corruption bill.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:But, Will the bill get any traction?

Seriously though, if the idiots that elected shithead to drain the swamp read these proposals, would they agree with them? I bet most would. (Of course it will never happen. See the right wing media echo chamber stories...)

DWags wrote:If she runs, which she will, and she gets the nomination, which she will, the democrats will not win.

DWags wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
yep - she's a little too smart, too independent and too outspoken for misogynists.

they prefer their women just to be quiet and look pretty.

well, beyond that, and you're right, there is a base of people in America that fear women, hate women, and would never vote for any woman.  However, don't discount how many dumb ass democrats there are that will not listen to one of her ideas because they see her as being too long, too established and too connected to the Clintons.  Not that they would vote for the republican, but just like last election, she is not a candidate that would motivate them to vote.  That's the big problem.  Motivation. What will it take.  We can pretend that shit isn't happening in America but there are a shit ton of people who didn't vote because they just thought "Meh".   We'll get the same when we nominate her.  Wish I was wrong, but I'm not.

DWags wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
yep - she's a little too smart, too independent and too outspoken for misogynists.

they prefer their women just to be quiet and look pretty.

well, beyond that, and you're right, there is a base of people in America that fear women, hate women, and would never vote for any woman.  However, don't discount how many dumb ass democrats there are that will not listen to one of her ideas because they see her as being too long, too established and too connected to the Clintons.  Not that they would vote for the republican, but just like last election, she is not a candidate that would motivate them to vote.  That's the big problem.  Motivation. What will it take.  We can pretend that shit isn't happening in America but there are a shit ton of people who didn't vote because they just thought "Meh".   We'll get the same when we nominate her.  Wish I was wrong, but I'm not.

Floyd Robertson wrote:
I'm in that world that exists right now between both parties. Used to think I was more or less on the right. Now more or less leaning left for a number of reasons. I'm not a fan of Warren or ANY other established DC dems. She and Pelosi can take a hike as far as I'm concerned. Just retire already and make way for younger blood (same the elephant party, too).

I'd liked to see someone who has run something and dealt with budgets at the executive level. What about Gina Raimondo or Kate Brown?

Rocinante wrote:Shrill, not feminine enough, prob a lezbo, bitchy, overbearing.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

Floyd Robertson wrote:
I'm in that world that exists right now between both parties. Used to think I was more or less on the right. Now more or less leaning left for a number of reasons. I'm not a fan of Warren or ANY other established DC dems. She and Pelosi can take a hike as far as I'm concerned. Just retire already and make way for younger blood (same the elephant party, too).

I'd liked to see someone who has run something and dealt with budgets at the executive level. What about Gina Raimondo or Kate Brown?

Wait... So what is wrong with Warren? This bill she's proposing would essentially kill off "established" DC types. Lifetime ban on lobbying, all lobbyists being registered and all meetings being public record. Also forbid lobbying from foreign governments (cause that's what diplomats are for). It's essentially gutting the lobbying industry.

GRR Spartan wrote:

Rocinante wrote:Shrill, not feminine enough, prob a lezbo, bitchy, overbearing.

Are you speaking from the prospective of being a closeted gay person yourself?

Trump has done a helluva a job labeling a political opponent the GOP has seen as a threat for almost a decade.

tGreenWay wrote:

GRR Spartan wrote:

Are you speaking from the prospective of being a closeted gay person yourself?

Trump has done a helluva a job labeling a political opponent the GOP has seen as a threat for almost a decade.

Sarcasm is lost completely on you.

tGreenWay wrote:

GRR Spartan wrote:

Are you speaking from the prospective of being a closeted gay person yourself?

Trump has done a helluva a job labeling a political opponent the GOP has seen as a threat for almost a decade.

Sarcasm is lost completely on you.

DWags wrote:If she runs, which she will, and she gets the nomination, which she will, the democrats will not win.

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

DWags wrote:If she runs, which she will, and she gets the nomination, which she will, the democrats will not win.

I think you're selling the "Anyone but Trump" crowd a bit short. The numbers are increasing all the time. This is of course assuming Trump is still around in 2020.