Who gets fired?

by **kingstonlake** 2018-12-31, 18:22

You don't get to coach or run an offense that doesn't score an offensive TD in 3 of your final 4 games against average at best defenses and stay employed.

Who goes?

by Clarett's Folly 2018-12-31, 18:23

Well... We lost to a team that scored 7 points. I say "the offense."

by **tGreenWay** 2018-12-31, 18:23

Everybody. Fire them all. I don’t care. Hit the reset button. Fuck them. What a goddamn embarrassment.

by **InTenSity** 2018-12-31, 18:24

No one goes. Probably one of the defensive coordinators.
Offense coordinators are paid the same as Dantonio.

by **The Pantry** 2018-12-31, 18:27

Can we please move Treadwell back to OC?

by **DWags** 2018-12-31, 18:29

Moving on. I hate MSU football.

by **kingstonlake** 2018-12-31, 18:31

The Pantry wrote:Can we please move Treadwell back to OC?

I don't want anyone associated with MSU football running the offense.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2018-12-31, 18:32

Hire Major Applewhite. Matt Canada. Or somebody.

by **The Pantry** 2018-12-31, 18:33

kingstonlake wrote:
The Pantry wrote:Can we please move Treadwell back to OC?

I don't want anyone associated with MSU football running the offense.

You can't deny Treadwell was successful before he left.

by **Tim Wakefield** 2018-12-31, 18:36

My season tickets

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2018-12-31, 18:37

Clarett's Folly wrote:Well... We lost to a team that scored 7 points. I say "the offense."

^^^

by **kingstonlake** 2018-12-31, 18:45

The Pantry wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

I don't want anyone associated with MSU football running the offense.
You can't deny Treadwell was successful before he left.

I don't want anyone associated with MSU football running the offense.

by Guest 2018-12-31, 18:48

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
Clarett's Folly wrote:Well... We lost to a team that scored 7 points. I say "the offense."

^^^

Don't play innocent.

by **steveschneider** 2018-12-31, 21:08

Bring back John L Smith as an OC. Hand him the keys to the offense.

by **Dr. Strangelove** 2018-12-31, 21:53

Three words:

Jim Bob Cooter

by **DWags** 2018-12-31, 21:59

Dr. Strangelove wrote:Three words:

Jim Bob Cooter

Five

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2018-12-31, 22:15

I just finished watching it (blind). Jesus. I don't even know what to say.

The worst offender? The OL.

Then...tie for everything. The WRs couldn't get open. I did not understand at all the USU/Chip Kelly approach on Offense where we go to the line, watch them line up, step back, look to the sideline and then.....NOT ADJUST AT ALL???? (Oh hey, 8 man box vs. 3-1 personnel pre-snap read? Let's go back and run.....a counter up the middle!!!)

Lewerke also is not good enough to overcome the above. Cook and Cousins might have been. Not sure. Lewerke might also still be banged up.

The offense needs a much better OL next year and a savior either at the WR, RB or QB position to be decent. Cuz no one is getting fired.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2018-12-31, 22:16

I still think it's scapegoating. If you think fucking Don Coryell could come in and save this offense next year you're fooling yourself. If he brings Dan Fouts with him, maybe.

by **Dr. Strangelove** 2018-12-31, 22:36

What I do get is why they persisted in calling shit that wasn't working. Like we were the 73 Bills and OJ had the Electric Company blocking for him.

Lewerke still didn't look healthy but he could run. Why not put the freaking option in? Stick Scott and Nailor in the backfield with him and go.

by **The Pantry** 2018-12-31, 22:38

Dr. Strangelove wrote:What I do get is why they persisted in calling shit that wasn't working. Like we were the 73 Bills and OJ had the Electric Company blocking for him.

Lewerke still didn't look healthy but he could run. Why not put the freaking option in? Stick Scott and Nailor in the backfield with him and go.

Agree. We had decent success running the option early in the season.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2018-12-31, 22:43

They ran the option quite a few times yo. The option also gets your QB killed. I don't know what you can do with this personnel. I would have hoped they could have come up with something over the past month. But I guess not.

by **DWags** 2018-12-31, 22:46

Lewerkes arm is shot. Start with that fix.

by Guest 2018-12-31, 22:49

DWags wrote:Lewerkes arm is shot. Start with that fix.

And unless Rocky makes a big leap he's not the answer. So it's Day or a transfer in.

by **Dr. Strangelove** 2018-12-31, 22:58

Sure wish we had a Messiah to lead us

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2018-12-31, 23:05

Kenny W broken fibula. Neutral

by **steveschneider** 2018-12-31, 23:22

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:They ran the option quite a few times yo. The option also gets your QB killed. I don't know what you can do with this personnel. I would have hoped they could have come up with something over the past month. But I guess not.

Agree. The whole thing is just broken. The best thing we can do at this point is just hope we get healthy and probably bring in some outside help to fix the offense.

by **Turtleneck** 2019-01-01, 01:57

Hire Major Applewhite. Matt Canada. Or somebody.

Travis? Bob? Nigel?

by **Nordic** 2019-01-01, 10:25

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I just finished watching it (blind). Jesus. I don't even know what to say.

The worst offender? The OL.

Then...tie for everything. The WRs couldn't get open. I did not understand at all the USU/Chip Kelly approach on Offense where we go to the line, watch them line up, step back, look to the sideline and then.....NOT ADJUST AT ALL???? (Oh hey, 8 man box vs. 3-1 personnel pre-snap read? Let's go back and run.....a counter up the middle!!!)

Lewerke also is not good enough to overcome the above. Cook and Cousins might have been. Not sure. Lewerke might also still be banged up.

The offense needs a much better OL next year and a savior either at the WR, RB or QB position to be decent. Cuz no one is getting fired.

The OL was atrocious lsst night. Disappointing as they started playing better from the PSU game on.

by **DWags** 2019-01-01, 11:02

Nordic wrote:
WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:I just finished watching it (blind). Jesus. I don't even know what to say.

The worst offender? The OL.

Then...tie for everything. The WRs couldn't get open. I did not understand at all the USU/Chip Kelly approach on Offense where we go to the line, watch them line up, step back, look to the sideline and then.....NOT ADJUST AT ALL???? (Oh hey, 8 man box vs. 3-1 personnel pre-snap read? Let's go back and run.....a counter up the middle!!!)

Lewerke also is not good enough to overcome the above. Cook and Cousins might have been. Not sure. Lewerke might also still be banged up.

The offense needs a much better OL next year and a savior either at the WR, RB or QB position to be decent. Cuz no one is getting fired.

The OL was atrocious lsst night. Disappointing as they started playing better from the PSU game on.

Either their vision or football iq is very low. Film room and reps are more needed than strength I believe.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-01-01, 11:34

You'll never convince me our OL cannot run an effective scheme. Someone mentioned Washington State as an example. They currently have 3 alumni on an NFL roster. We have 11. Yet that team finds a way every single year under Leach to make their offense work. They have 1 QB in the show, 1 OL, and 1 RB We need to find those people who can make an offense work. Adaptability is key. College offenses are evolving. Ours isn't.

by **DWags** 2019-01-01, 11:42

kingstonlake wrote:You'll never convince me our OL cannot run an effective scheme. Someone mentioned Washington State as an example. They currently have 3 alumni on an NFL roster. We have 11. Yet that team finds a way every single year under Leach to make their offense work. They have 1 QB in the show, 1 OL, and 1 RB We need to find those people who can make an offense work. Adaptability is key. College offenses are evolving. Ours isn't.

Is that the team we beat last year?

by **kingstonlake** 2019-01-01, 11:50

DWags wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:You'll never convince me our OL cannot run an effective scheme. Someone mentioned Washington State as an example. They currently have 3 alumni on an NFL roster. We have 11. Yet that team finds a way every single year under Leach to make their offense work. They have 1 QB in the show, 1 OL, and 1 RB We need to find those people who can make an offense work. Adaptability is key. College offenses are evolving. Ours isn't.

Is that the team we beat last year?

Yes, the one who's drafted QB was out, who's back up blew his head off a month later, who's best defensive player sat, and two best receivers didn't play.

by **DWags** 2019-01-01, 11:59

kingstonlake wrote:
DWags wrote:

Is that the team we beat last year?

Yes, the one who's drafted QB was out, who's back up blew his head off a month later, who's best defensive player sat, and two best receivers didn't play.

Just busting your balls.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-01-01, 13:14

DWags wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

Yes, the one who's drafted QB was out, who's back up blew his head off a month later, who's best defensive player sat, and two best receivers didn't play.

Just busting your balls.

I know lol.

by **steveschneider** 2019-01-01, 18:44

We should hire Jim Bob Cooter

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2019-01-01, 18:56

You guys there are bigger problems. I don't care if Dantonio parades Warner up to some gallows in front of Rick's tomorrow and chops his head off. Program is in a weird place right now. Sean McVeigh isn't going to get greater production out of this group as it stands.

by **InTenSity** 2019-01-01, 18:59

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:You guys there are bigger problems. I don't care if Dantonio parades Warner up to some gallows in front of Rick's tomorrow and chops his head off. Program is in a weird place right now. Sean McVeigh isn't going to get greater production out of this group as it stands.

What are the bigger problems? I'm just curious.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-01-01, 19:05

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:You guys there are bigger problems. I don't care if Dantonio parades Warner up to some gallows in front of Rick's tomorrow and chops his head off. Program is in a weird place right now. Sean McVeigh isn't going to get greater production out of this group as it stands.

I find it hard to believe that one side of the ball can be elite and the other side literally 132nd out of 136. You cannot recruit that badly one one side and not the other. It's the same program fer gods sake. I'm not saying they're going to turn into Oklahoma under different coaching and strategies but you can't convince me they can't be top 60 with the right leadership.

by **WhiteBoyHatcher** 2019-01-01, 19:21

Ok I won't try to convince you then.

by **kingstonlake** 2019-01-01, 19:23

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Ok I won't try to convince you then.

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