State Supreme Court has Spoken

Robert J Sakimano wrote:"pro-life" people upset with a woman saving lives.

Green money wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:"pro-life" people upset with a woman saving lives.

or taking away their freedom?

Green money wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:"pro-life" people upset with a woman saving lives.

or taking away their freedom?

Green money wrote:

Robert J Sakimano wrote:"pro-life" people upset with a woman saving lives.

or taking away their freedom?

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:

Green money wrote:or taking away their freedom?

What up Goose?

tGreenWay wrote:

Green money wrote:or taking away their freedom?

Do you abide having to buckle up when in vehicles, having to register and insure those vehicles, and/or not driving drunk? How about not smoking in designated areas?
It’s part of living in a civilized society. Some things in the social contract will mean doing things you wouldn’t ordinarily do. Minor sacrifices. And wearing a mask in public when around other people is barely a blip on the “but my freedumbs” scale. Mostly, you’re protecting yourself, but it helps protect those around you, too.

Floyd Robertson wrote:So, what does this mean, exactly? Restaurants, bars, gyms, whatever aren't going to have to enforce distancing and can operate at 100% capacity again? Fuck that noise.

DWags wrote:
Executive orders still stand unless the legislature over turns them.

Look, I’m on her side, but I don’t think any of us want one person to be all powerful in our state with no checks on it. This was a wwii law she involved. Whose to say the next person doesn’t do the same thing but for nefarious reasons? I can see 90 or 120 days, but no limit? Even if you agree with every move she made, I just don’t think it’s a good thing.

She did save us from the idiots so I’m torn. I wish the case had dragged on for a year or so.

AvgMSUJoe wrote:

DWags wrote:
Executive orders still stand unless the legislature over turns them.

Look, I’m on her side, but I don’t think any of us want one person to be all powerful in our state with no checks on it. This was a wwii law she involved. Whose to say the next person doesn’t do the same thing but for nefarious reasons? I can see 90 or 120 days, but no limit? Even if you agree with every move she made, I just don’t think it’s a good thing.

She did save us from the idiots so I’m torn. I wish the case had dragged on for a year or so.

I believe the legislature is out until the election too. So they would have to stop begging for votes, go back to Lansing, come to some sort of consensus and she would have to sign it to overturn her orders.... also I suppose the DHHS has been mirroring her orders all along, so the legislature would have to take their authority away also. (Might be wrong about that)

Herny said that's not true. She said it means we could ignore all mask mandates, social distancing, and more, effective on Friday at 4:35 p.m.

"That means burn your masks right now if you didn't already. Open your gym, and movie theatre and open whatever business you have. Go on and frequent whatever business you would like to go to, if you have a church that's limited your services because of how you're reading the EOs, forget that. All of those executive orders, based on COVID-19 circumstances, from 2020, they're out, they're gone, they're done," Henry said.

Additionally, Henry said there's nothing in place regarding any of the executive orders from Whitmer and that the governor's office has not yet filed for a rehearing. She also said the governor can't appeal the ruling to a higher court because the only court higher than the state Supreme Court is the U.S. Supreme Court, which does not have jurisdiction over state law or state constitution.

"Our United States Supreme Court doesn't have jurisdiction to hear those kinds of cases. They can only answer issues about if our state law or our state constitution violated the federal law or federal constitution. So the highest court in the land that can answer these questions, has spoken. The decision has been rendered. It's there as of Friday at 4:35. So she can try and whine and complain all she wants, she's not going to get anywhere," Henry said.

This weekend, Oakland County issued an order that residents wear a mask in all public places. Henry vowed that she would be one of the first attorneys lining up to stop that as well.

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Rant for a second - this pisses me off, because I feel like we've finally established a new normal, and it's pretty fine. It's not perfect, but it's fine given the circumstances. We know there will be a few odd Karens, there will be some young people who are idiots, but the rest of us functional adults can go about our daily business, wearing masks, staying away from strangers. We're trying to get our kids back into schools.

And then this shit. Burn your masks. Open everything to full capacity. This is how we roll!! This is our Party of Freedom! Fall in line!

InTenSity wrote:

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Rant for a second - this pisses me off, because I feel like we've finally established a new normal, and it's pretty fine. It's not perfect, but it's fine given the circumstances. We know there will be a few odd Karens, there will be some young people who are idiots, but the rest of us functional adults can go about our daily business, wearing masks, staying away from strangers. We're trying to get our kids back into schools.

And then this shit. Burn your masks. Open everything to full capacity. This is how we roll!! This is our Party of Freedom! Fall in line!

They will also argue that they aren't forcing you not to wear a mask, and that you can continue to wear one, but they don't want to be forced to wear one, because it is their right to get the disease and kill other people.

GRR Spartan wrote:Maybe, just maybe the GOP voters put their words into action, get The RONA and enough of the 50 and over MAGA voters die off to make their party as insignificant in MI as the overzealous GOP saw happen in CA.

There they pounced on rolling brownouts as a reason to recall sitting Gov Gray Davis. It was started by Ted Costa who mistakenly thought he could be the next governor. As soon as it was apparent Gray Davis was going to be recalled the GOP enlisted Schwarzenegger who beat out lesser known GOP hopefuls and was a two term governor.

Later it was learned the brownouts were often orchestrated by Enron Energy to maximize profits and possibly weaken the sitting CA governor.

Fallout 15 years later has been the CA GOP can't get credible candidates to run for statewide office.

DWags wrote:

Floyd Robertson wrote:So, what does this mean, exactly? Restaurants, bars, gyms, whatever aren't going to have to enforce distancing and can operate at 100% capacity again? Fuck that noise.

Executive orders still stand unless the legislature over turns them.  

Look, I’m on her side, but I don’t think any of us want one person to be all powerful in our state with no checks on it. This was a wwii law she involved. Whose to say the next person doesn’t do the same thing but for nefarious reasons?  I can see 90 or 120 days, but no limit?  Even if you agree with every move she made, I just don’t think it’s a good thing.

She did save us from the idiots so I’m torn.   I wish the case had dragged on for a year or so.