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Post by AvgMSUJoe Wed 23 Nov 2022 - 8:15

https://nypost.com/2022/11/21/mystery-of-sheep-walking-in-circle-for-12-days-may-be-solved/
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed 23 Nov 2022 - 10:08

Like the idea that it is a pathogen causing Trump following.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Fri 25 Nov 2022 - 13:36

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Post by AvgMSUJoe Fri 25 Nov 2022 - 13:38

Jeeezus, just think the babble at that table.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri 25 Nov 2022 - 13:49

Good Grief, Trump continues to rabble rouse to seperate the population of the country into groups of hatred.
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Post by Jake from State Farm Sat 26 Nov 2022 - 9:05

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Maybe if Trump paid attention to anything other than fox news he'd be a little more enlightened about the unfettered scum running around this country.
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Post by DWags Sat 26 Nov 2022 - 9:23

George Consay for the win: “it really shows the diversity of America when you can have a Nazi with the last name of Fuentes”
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Post by MiamiSpartan Sat 26 Nov 2022 - 10:31

DWags wrote:George Consay for the win: “it really shows the diversity of America when you can have a Nazi with the last name of Fuentes”

Hispanic white supremacists is peak weirdness. There's a fair amount of them down here.
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Post by Motown Spartan Sat 26 Nov 2022 - 14:12

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DWags wrote:George Consay for the win: “it really shows the diversity of America when you can have a Nazi with the last name of Fuentes”

Hispanic white supremacists is peak weirdness. There's a fair amount of them down here.

The name Fuentes originated in Spain which is a predominantly white country.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sat 26 Nov 2022 - 17:19

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DWags wrote:George Consay for the win: “it really shows the diversity of America when you can have a Nazi with the last name of Fuentes”

Hispanic white supremacists is peak weirdness. There's a fair amount of them down here.

Immigrants understand white privalge very well and decide it is much better to be white in a country with white privilege.
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Post by MiamiSpartan Sat 26 Nov 2022 - 20:36

Motown Spartan wrote:
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Hispanic white supremacists is peak weirdness. There's a fair amount of them down here.

The name Fuentes originated in Spain which is a predominantly white country.

Yeah, that's what they say when they try to tell themselves that white supremacists see them and welcome them as white.
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Post by steveschneider Sun 27 Nov 2022 - 6:58

Trapper Gus wrote:
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Hispanic white supremacists is peak weirdness. There's a fair amount of them down here.

Immigrants understand white privalge very well and decide it is much better to be white in a country with white privilege.

Enrico Tario the Nazi and Nick Fuentes the holocaust denier.

Candace Owens thought Hitler was ‘ok until he went global’. These are terrible people.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sun 4 Dec 2022 - 8:35



Karoun Demirjian and Toluse Olorunnipa of WoPo wrote:Trump’s message on the Truth Social platform reiterated the baseless claims he has made since 2020 that the election was stolen. But he went further by suggesting that the country abandon one of its founding documents.

“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote.

So, Trump's message is falling in line with the Conservative Billionaires who what to change the Constitution, so they are in total control.
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Post by Jake from State Farm Sun 4 Dec 2022 - 8:53

Trapper Gus wrote:

Karoun Demirjian and Toluse Olorunnipa of WoPo wrote:Trump’s message on the Truth Social platform reiterated the baseless claims he has made since 2020 that the election was stolen. But he went further by suggesting that the country abandon one of its founding documents.

“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote.

So, Trump's message is falling in line with the Conservative Billionaires who what to change the Constitution, so they are in total control.

Yeah, he finally came out and said exactly what he wants to happen in this country. Too bad that his MAGAts won't ever realize what he's trying to do until it's too late.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sun 4 Dec 2022 - 9:06

Jake from State Farm wrote:
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So, Trump's message is falling in line with the Conservative Billionaires who what to change the Constitution, so they are in total control.

Yeah, he finally came out and said exactly what he wants to happen in this country. Too bad that his MAGAts won't ever realize what he's trying to do until it's too late.

! - They approve of the idea, because they believe they will be on the winning side.

2 - If it were just Trump it might not be as doable, however, it really it the entire network of billionaires who own the Republican Party. Trump is just a useful tool for them to try to reach the goal of turning the United States into their personal kingdom.
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Post by DWags Sun 4 Dec 2022 - 9:31

We deserve everything we get. If these idiots go to the polls and support the destruction of the constitution a d they out vote those of us who don’t, so be it.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sun 4 Dec 2022 - 10:33

DWags wrote:We deserve everything we get. If these idiots go to the polls and support the destruction of the constitution a d they out vote those of us who don’t, so be it.

Sure, that is how a system which allows everyone to have a vote works. However, voter suppression and gerrymandering is part of the situation.
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Post by MiamiSpartan Sun 4 Dec 2022 - 14:31

Trapper Gus wrote:
DWags wrote:We deserve everything we get.  If these idiots go to the polls and support the destruction of the constitution a d they out vote those of us who don’t, so be it.  

Sure, that is how a system which allows everyone to have a vote works.  However, voter suppression and gerrymandering is part of the situation.

Yeah, but unless they're suppressing 90% of voters it shouldn't matter.  Jesus, we're talking about it coming down to a percent or two to add to what is already 48-49% willing to tear up the Constitution and end Democracy?  How fucked up is that?
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Post by Trapper Gus Sun 4 Dec 2022 - 19:29

MiamiSpartan wrote:
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Sure, that is how a system which allows everyone to have a vote works.  However, voter suppression and gerrymandering is part of the situation.

Yeah, but unless they're suppressing 90% of voters it shouldn't matter.  Jesus, we're talking about it coming down to a percent or two to add to what is already 48-49% willing to tear up the Constitution and end Democracy?  How fucked up is that?

The Republicans have gerrymandered the Red states to the point they only need 49% of the people to vote for them to have power.
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Post by MiamiSpartan Sun 4 Dec 2022 - 21:15

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Yeah, but unless they're suppressing 90% of voters it shouldn't matter.  Jesus, we're talking about it coming down to a percent or two to add to what is already 48-49% willing to tear up the Constitution and end Democracy?  How fucked up is that?

The Republicans have gerrymandered the Red states to the point they only need 49% of the people to vote for them to have power.
Again, that shouldn't matter. The fact that it does is the problem. We are fucked as a country when even 49% of the people are ok with some one who would willingly end Democracy. Hell, we would be fucked as a country if 20% felt that way. Gerrymandering, or a lack thereof, isn't going to fix that. If we have close to half the country willing to throw out the constitution for "their guy", then we will continue to be a fucked up, divided nation.
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Post by Trapper Gus Mon 5 Dec 2022 - 8:22

MiamiSpartan wrote:
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The Republicans have gerrymandered the Red states to the point they only need 49% of the people to vote for them to have power.
Again, that shouldn't matter. The fact that it does is the problem. We are fucked as a country when even 49% of the people are ok with some one who would willingly end Democracy. Hell, we would be fucked as a country if 20% felt that way. Gerrymandering, or a lack thereof, isn't going to fix that. If we have close to half the country willing to throw out the constitution for "their guy", then we will continue to be a fucked up, divided nation.

Okay - we are fucked then. All we can do is to keep voting against Republicans at all levels. I don't give a fuck if your best friend who is a really good person is running for city council in a town of 5 people as a Republican, you cannot vote for anyone in that Party. Not standing up and saying what Trump said is absolutely wrong is just the latest indication that "the Party" has totally lost its way and cannot be supported at any level.
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Post by MiamiSpartan Mon 5 Dec 2022 - 9:12

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Again, that shouldn't matter. The fact that it does is the problem. We are fucked as a country when even 49% of the people are ok with some one who would willingly end Democracy. Hell, we would be fucked as a country if 20% felt that way. Gerrymandering, or a lack thereof, isn't going to fix that. If we have close to half the country willing to throw out the constitution for "their guy", then we will continue to be a fucked up, divided nation.

Okay - we are fucked then. All we can do is to keep voting against Republicans at all levels. I don't give a fuck if your best friend who is a really good person is running for city council in a town of 5 people as a Republican, you cannot vote for anyone in that Party. Not standing up and saying what Trump said is absolutely wrong is just the latest indication that "the Party" has totally lost its way and cannot be supported at any level.
For anyone that follows the party line and panders to that way of thinking, absolutely. Though I'll stop just short of blanketing anyone with an R next to their name. There are a small few good Republicans, even if most of them got primaried.

I'm an independent, and used to lean more Republican (the tea party and that era is when I started to sour on them, as being too far right). But for any Republican at any level, my personal litmus test is their view on Trump. Not just now, not just post-1/6, but since his 2016 candidacy started, and especially from the first impeachment onward. I need to see what they actually said at the time before I would even give them the time of day. If they never said anything publicly, that's as good as supporting him. If they pass that litmus test and have consistently been anti-Trumpism, then I can at least objectively evaluate them versus their opponents on other issues.
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Post by Trapper Gus Mon 5 Dec 2022 - 10:03

MiamiSpartan wrote:
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Okay - we are fucked then.  All we can do is to keep voting against Republicans at all levels.  I don't give a fuck if your best friend who is a really good person is running for city council in a town of 5 people as a Republican, you cannot vote for anyone in that Party.  Not standing up and saying what Trump said is absolutely wrong is just the latest indication that "the Party" has totally lost its way and cannot be supported at any level.
For anyone that follows the party line and panders to that way of thinking, absolutely.  Though I'll stop just short of blanketing anyone with an R next to their name.   There are a small few good Republicans, even if most of them got primaried.

I'm an independent, and used to lean more Republican (the tea party and that era is when I started to sour on them, as being too far right).  But for any Republican at any level, my personal litmus test is their view on Trump.  Not just now, not just post-1/6, but since his 2016 candidacy started, and especially from the first impeachment onward.  I need to see what they actually said at the time before I would even give them the time of day.  If they never said anything publicly, that's as good as supporting him.  If they pass that litmus test and have consistently been anti-Trumpism, then I can at least objectively evaluate them versus their opponents on other issues.  

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Any Republican running for any office is supporting, via building power for the Party if they win, the Republican effort, and there is one at the highest levels, to overthrow the Constitution, which is why, no matter how "good" the candidate might be, if you love the Constitution you cannot vote for them.  If they all start losing maybe, but I don't think it will, because the billionaires at the top are the ones trying the overthrow the Constitution and they own the Party, if we stop electing local Republicans, they will get the message and change.

If your hair is on fire about the Republican Party supporting overthrowing the Constitution then you absolutely cannot support any Republican running for office, anywhere, until the Republican Party absolutely purges itself of all the billionaires who what to change the Constitution in their favor.  This is a fight to protect the United States as they now are.
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