Popper's Paradox - Unlimited Tolerance Leads to the Disappearance of Tolerance.

Karl Popper wrote:In a footnote to Chapter 7 of ‘The Open Society and Its Enemies’ Karl Popper describes what he calls the ‘Paradox of Democracy’: the possibility that a majority decides for a tyrant to rule. This is the lesser known paradox of the three to which he pays attention, the other two being the ‘paradox of freedom’ – total freedom leads to suppression of the weak by the strong – and the ‘paradox of tolerance’ – unlimited tolerance leads to the disappearance of tolerance.

Karl Popper was a "name" in Philosophy, probably best known for his Philosophy of Science.

However, this Paradox of Tolerance addresses the cries we hear from the conservatives about not allowing their hate speech or lies about reality to be heard.

Tolerance, if it is to survive, can only allow tolerance for discussions about increasing tolerance for all. Discussions of reducing tolerance for some, such as reducing tolerance for minorities are by definition an attack of tolerance. Thus, it is not intolerant to ban discussions on reducing tolerance, and thus ban much of what conservatives are trying to say, in order to protect tolerance.

PS - If I was really trying to make this clear there would be a bunch of footnotes about definitions, but I think most of this board will understand without that.

Trapper Gus wrote: Thus, it is not intolerant to ban discussions on reducing tolerance, and thus ban much of what conservatives are trying to say

That's what a fascist would say.

fascist

an advocate or follower of the political philosophy or system of fascism  -  https://www.bing.com/search?q=fascist&form=ANNTH1&refig=0c989aeacfc5487d848025d0a15916a8

fascism

an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.  -  https://www.bing.com/search?q=fascism&form=ANNTH1&refig=c144d74c81364c9893bf3e07f2acb5fb

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultra-nationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

More than likely a fascist would not be promoting more tolerance in society via more rights such as the right to abortion & other reproductive rights or the right to personal gender identity since the "belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race" probably would preclude that.  

Popper's Paradox shows that in order to have a more liberal, and liberal is used here in the enlightenment form of understand of the word, meaning the greatest freedom of choices for the greatest number of people in society, the tolerance of intolerance of rights, as proposed by many conservatives, moves society to a curtailing of rights, the opposite of a liberal society and more in line with a typical fascist society.

TG: and thus ban much of what conservatives are trying to say
RQA: That's what a fascist would say.
TG: Fascism is characterized by suppression of opposition.

I'm tolerant of everything, except intolerance.

RQA wrote:TG:  and thus ban much of what conservatives are trying to say
RQA:  That's what a fascist would say.
TG:  Fascism is characterized by suppression of opposition.  

Herr RQA needs a translation I see...

1 - The Conservatives want to limit the rights of others, and talk about it often, this is what should be limited, as it is intolerance. As Popper say, allowing intolerance to be introduced as a tolerance of discussion causes intolerance, meaning it reduces and eventually eliminates freedom. Being anti reproductive rights is to limit the rights of others, a fascist goal.
2 - The fundamentals of fascism are to be intolerant to tolerance, tolerance being freedom.  Thus, a fascist would be against being intolerant of intolerance. So nope, a fascist would not be saying what I said.
3 - Fascists suppress opposition, regardless of what it is.  Suppression of intolerance is an oxymoron as intolerant is what fascists are, so they don't suppress that.

Motown Spartan wrote:I'm tolerant of everything, except intolerance.

Probably the best response to Popper's Paradox.

Just a reminder that RQA, a self-proclaimed defender of freedom, wants to disarm American citizens.

Turtleneck wrote:Just a reminder that RQA, a self-proclaimed defender of freedom, wants to disarm American citizens.

Oddly enough it is one place he has stated an actual opinion, and I agree with him. Guns don't protect freedom, voting does.