Re: Obsession - the tears of my enemies.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2023-11-09, 14:58

just saw a clip of Bielema discussing it (to the extent he felt comfortable), and he didn't say much but he told a story about Pat Fitzgerald contacting his (Bielema's) staff in game saying "your signals, discussions were coming in over our the same frequency on our headsets my staff immediately to take their headsets off, change channel/frequency". Called Bielema the next day and informed of it, as well.

obviously, the hazing thing at NW isn't good, but I always really liked Fitzgerald and I wouldn't be opposed to him being considered for the MSU position. I've said that a few times in this thread.

by **InTenSity** 2023-11-09, 15:32

Fitzgerald had to take the fall, right? Claimed he didn't know about the hazing? How is it all on the head coach, until it comes to um?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2023-11-09, 15:55

InTenSity wrote:Fitzgerald had to take the fall, right? Claimed he didn't know about the hazing? How is it all on the head coach, until it comes to um?

I know. And maybe he knew of it tangentially, I don't know - but, in the scheme of the current state of college athletics, I don't think Fitz's sin is worthy of banishment from the industry.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-11-09, 16:10

GRR Spartan wrote:Rick Neuheisal told some illuminating stories about Harbaugh when he was at Stanford.

While being UCLA’s HC, Neuheisel got an irate call from Stanford’s HC Harbaugh calling him every name in the book accusing Neuheisal legal contact with a recruit n the LA area. The player had committed to UCLA. Neuheisal told him to call the conference if it really happened. Nothing ever happened.

At a PAC 10 coaches meeting Harbaugh stated making accusations that USC was using conference officials and getting preferential treatment in games. USC had PAC10 officials at many of their practices. Harbaugh complained he couldn’t afford to have them that often because he didn’t have the money in his budget plus USC got an advantage due to personal relationship.

Harbaugh was on a roll when Pete Carroll raised his hand and asked if Harbaugh was aware USC had been the most penalized team in the conference. It got quite fast.

All this stuff including Stalions mess is classic Harbaugh. Always coloring real close or over the line and complaining about others.

This guy burns every bridge. It seems like he did it with Warde, which makes Santa even more foolish because Harbaugh will burn him, if need be, too.

by **duffy munn** 2023-11-09, 17:02

Robert J Sakimano wrote:as I've been saying all along.. deny, deflect, discredit, make counter accusations and pretend to be the victim as your fanboys and accomplices in the media carry your water for you.

Trump 101.

There sure are a lot of similarities Bob. I think Harbaugh could shoot a guy in broad daylight on Main St and the walvies wouldn't care

by **MiamiSpartan** 2023-11-09, 17:16

InTenSity wrote:Fitzgerald had to take the fall, right? Claimed he didn't know about the hazing? How is it all on the head coach, until it comes to um?

Can't expect the leaders and the best to have a leader...or to be the best unless they cheat.

by **steveschneider** 2023-11-09, 18:51

My gut feeling on all of this is that UofM at worst gets a slap on the wrist. The conference wants to make the money.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2023-11-09, 19:06

steveschneider wrote:My gut feeling on all of this is that UofM at worst gets a slap on the wrist. The conference wants to make the money.

yep. Slap on the wrist, at best.

by AvgMSUJoe 2023-11-09, 19:23

I'd love for the coaches to take it into their own hands.

by **Nordic** 2023-11-09, 19:44

GRR Spartan wrote:Rick Neuheisal told some illuminating stories about Harbaugh when he was at Stanford.

While being UCLA’s HC, Neuheisel got an irate call from Stanford’s HC Harbaugh calling him every name in the book accusing Neuheisal legal contact with a recruit n the LA area. The player had committed to UCLA. Neuheisal told him to call the conference if it really happened. Nothing ever happened.

At a PAC 10 coaches meeting Harbaugh stated making accusations that USC was using conference officials and getting preferential treatment in games. USC had PAC10 officials at many of their practices. Harbaugh complained he couldn’t afford to have them that often because he didn’t have the money in his budget plus USC got an advantage due to personal relationship.

Harbaugh was on a roll when Pete Carroll raised his hand and asked if Harbaugh was aware USC had been the most penalized team in the conference. It got quite fast.

All this stuff including Stalions mess is classic Harbaugh. Always coloring real close or over the line and complaining about others.

Was that on his SiriusXM show? I miss that show. I haven't had Sirius in a while, but he is great on the radio (as was Leach when he was on hiatus). Way more stiff on the CBS TV show.

by **Nordic** 2023-11-09, 19:46

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
InTenSity wrote:Fitzgerald had to take the fall, right? Claimed he didn't know about the hazing? How is it all on the head coach, until it comes to um?
I know. And maybe he knew of it tangentially, I don't know - but, in the scheme of the current state of college athletics, I don't think Fitz's sin is worthy of banishment from the industry.

He'll be back. Probably as a DC, then a HC at a smaller school.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-11-09, 22:32

Robert J Sakimano wrote:[ yep. Slap on the wrist, at best.

"Hello, Big 12, this is Michigan State University. We are here with Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. Make room because we are moving in."

by **NigelUno** 2023-11-09, 23:03

I’m fine with letting it play out 2 more weeks. Big Ten will get more evidence from NCAA. Hopefully UM loses. Then roast them anyway.

by **tGreenWay** 2023-11-09, 23:16

gomersbro wrote:Hopefully it is loud in Happy Valley this weekend. Remember Harbaugh doesn't like it loud.

lol I don’t remember that happening but I can guess who won the game. Obsession - the tears of my enemies. - Page 25 1494614055

by **tGreenWay** 2023-11-09, 23:22

Turtleneck wrote:You need a new best friend, GreenWay. I am a little offended that as your Swill buddy you didn’t mention this bloke before.

We talked politics and B1G football. Our deepest conversation was about our mutual enjoyment in El Azteco. He came up woefully short in his attempts to become my bff.

by **Nordic** 2023-11-09, 23:52

tGreenWay wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:You need a new best friend, GreenWay. I am a little offended that as your Swill buddy you didn’t mention this bloke before.

We talked politics and B1G football. Our deepest conversation was about our mutual enjoyment in El Azteco. He came up woefully short in his attempts to become my bff.

Ok Gacy.

by gomersbro 2023-11-10, 00:27

There is a rumor that Michigan gets off with just a fine? If that is the case just put Mat on the sidelines and let him try and bribe the ref every play. Let it be on camera and grab the nation's attention. Demand an investigation and write response to the conference using the invisible ink pen my daughter has. Because we know the punishment for cheating is only a fine.

by **tGreenWay** 2023-11-10, 01:46

Nordic wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

We talked politics and B1G football. Our deepest conversation was about our mutual enjoyment in El Azteco. He came up woefully short in his attempts to become my bff.
tGreenWay wrote:

We talked politics and B1G football. Our deepest conversation was about our mutual enjoyment in El Azteco. He came up woefully short in his attempts to become my bff.

Ok Gacy.

I ain’t no clown.

by **NigelUno** 2023-11-10, 09:41

Big Ten supposedly announcing something today.

If UM is going to fight everything, might as well let them play that card.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-11-10, 10:17

Everything about UM's response is just like another guy's response to his current legal situation. Everybody involved seems super dumb and super arrogant at the same time. Because of course you want your lawyer basing his defense on what he reads on internet sports message boards. Also, what exactly will UM not steal?

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by **kingstonlake** 2023-11-10, 10:24

Yup. Been lurking over there. Basically saying we have bought and paid for judges that will make sure a football team is the life and death of all of us.

by **DWags** 2023-11-10, 10:27

Honestly, if Michigan just gets a slap on the wrist, $1 million fine, or something like that, it’s just another nail in the coffin of this old man yelling at clouds about not being interested in college football anymore

by **InTenSity** 2023-11-10, 10:32

DWags wrote:Honestly, if Michigan just gets a slap on the wrist, $1 million fine, or something like that, it’s just another nail in the coffin of this old man yelling at clouds about not being interested in college football anymore

I'm going to guess a very sternly worded announcement, and then they will say that they need to wait for the NCAA to finish their investigation before anything can be done.
Nothing will happen. I am going to teach my kids that it is better to cheat and lie for as long as possible, because it is easier to get ahead that way, rather than doing it the 'correct' way.

by **Heat Miser** 2023-11-10, 11:08

InTenSity wrote:
DWags wrote:Honestly, if Michigan just gets a slap on the wrist, $1 million fine, or something like that, it’s just another nail in the coffin of this old man yelling at clouds about not being interested in college football anymore
I'm going to guess a very sternly worded announcement, and then they will say that they need to wait for the NCAA to finish their investigation before anything can be done.
Nothing will happen. I am going to teach my kids that it is better to cheat and lie for as long as possible, because it is easier to get ahead that way, rather than doing it the 'correct' way.

This approach only works if you're 1 of the "haves". If it was MSU doing this kind of cheating there'd be holy hell to pay & SCum would be leading the lynch mob.

by **duffy munn** 2023-11-10, 11:22

DWags wrote:Honestly, if Michigan just gets a slap on the wrist, $1 million fine, or something like that, it’s just another nail in the coffin of this old man yelling at clouds about not being interested in college football anymore

slightly younger old man yelling at slightly younger cloud checking in

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2023-11-10, 11:49

Heat Miser wrote:
InTenSity wrote:
I'm going to guess a very sternly worded announcement, and then they will say that they need to wait for the NCAA to finish their investigation before anything can be done.
Nothing will happen. I am going to teach my kids that it is better to cheat and lie for as long as possible, because it is easier to get ahead that way, rather than doing it the 'correct' way.

This approach only works if you're 1 of the "haves". If it was MSU doing this kind of cheating there'd be holy hell to pay & SCum would be leading the lynch mob.

yep - and remember that while Harbaugh/ESPN/the Detroit media were all expressing manufactured disbelief and outrage at the MSU 'thugs' for the tunnel incident, he was starting a player who would eventually be charged (two months after the incident Rolling Eyes

) with felony gun charges and pled down to a misdemeanor.

by **Turtleneck** 2023-11-10, 12:22

tGreenWay wrote:
Nordic wrote:

Ok Gacy.

I ain’t no clown.

True. I ain't no buddies with a clown.

by **kingstonlake** 2023-11-10, 12:37

For some reason this tweet no longer exists or has been deleted. I’m not on twitter so I ain’t got nothin for ya!

I’m highly skeptical!

Obsession - the tears of my enemies. - Page 25 Img_1211

by **Floyd Robertson** 2023-11-10, 12:44

Yeah I don't think Brett's real account ends in 65222 Obsession - the tears of my enemies. - Page 25 502811600

by **kingstonlake** 2023-11-10, 12:50

Floyd Robertson wrote:Yeah I don't think Brett's real account ends in 65222

Exactly. But man I sounded so good. Lol.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2023-11-10, 12:52

kingstonlake wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:Yeah I don't think Brett's real account ends in 65222

Exactly. But man I sounded so good. Lol.

I heard there was a second part. "Suspension will lifted when Harbaugh goes to the NFL".

Or I made that up.

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