Big Gretch lands Ford/EV battery factory for Michigan worth billions. 2500 new jobs coming to Marshall. Wow.
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Big Gretch lands Ford/EV battery factory for Michigan worth billions. 2500 new jobs coming to Marshall. Wow.
If we blame the governor for for different things. I guess we have to give her credit for different things. Whether we give her credit for this or not, it’s up to your political persuasion, but damn, this is huge. 3.5 billion. 2000 acre. Virgins govenor withdrew because it’s connected to the Chinese communist party.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-announce-new-35-billion-battery-plant-michigan-sources-2023-02-10/
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ford-announce-new-35-billion-battery-plant-michigan-sources-2023-02-10/
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It was her fault that southern states got battery plants. Now it’s not to her credit that Michigan got one. Keep up DWags.
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Motown Spartan wrote:It was her fault that southern states got battery plants. Now it’s not to her credit that Michigan got one. Keep up DWags.
She's such a fucking bitch.
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Wish the Chinese weren’t involved.
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TravelinMan wrote:Wish the Chinese weren’t involved.
I like international cooperation that benefits America. What is it about Chinese people that bothers you?
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Re: Big Gretch lands Ford/EV battery factory for Michigan worth billions. 2500 new jobs coming to Marshall. Wow.
There is a group of people in Marshal who are upset that economic growth is happening there, but that happens with almost every bit of progress.
Re: Big Gretch lands Ford/EV battery factory for Michigan worth billions. 2500 new jobs coming to Marshall. Wow.
Xenophobia killing commerce.TravelinMan wrote:Wish the Chinese weren’t involved.
Of course, it happens on both sides... no Rs cared when Devos ran for gov... And the Ds gave it lip service.
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Wasn't that the whole globalization push in the 80's? Capitalism was going to spread Democracy or at least good global citizens...
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AvgMSUJoe wrote:Wasn't that the whole globalization push in the 80's? Capitalism was going to spread Democracy or at least good global citizens...
That was one of the justifications, though it was more in the 1990's with Bill Clinton and his "triangulation" strategy to win votes. Reagan's success with "working class" voters shook up the Democratic Party and the "egghead" response to Reagan's & Clinton's success was for the Democratic mainstream policies to be driven by neoliberal "belief in unfettered markets", aka globalization. (though even Carter had been moving towards "deregulation" starting with the airlines)
That thinking has hung on sort of, since the 1990's, in the Democratic Party, though there has been a growing backlash, called the Progressive wing of the party. Putin's adventurism & China's swing back to a highly authoritarian governing style since their economic liberalization in the ought's (2000 - 2009), has discredited the "trade will bring democracy" ideas. The neoliberal belief in markets, combined with the Reagan changes to how corporations are regulated (anti-trust & legalizing stock buy backs, along with rewarding corporate management with stock options) have created an economy in the US in which mom & pop businesses are at a disadvantage verses the big corporations for any market segment the big corporations decide to invest in. (The big one they have been after since around 2008 is Healthcare)
TM's comment goes beyond just ignoring neoliberal globalism, in that the largest & most significant economic area of deregulations since the 1970's is banking and finance, and since it has been deregulated, capital is fungible, moving to whatever global location it can gain the highest ROI. That a Chinese corporation sees an investment opportunity in the US, due to the IRA, means jobs in the US instead of China. This does not solve the deregulation issues which destroyed many small businesses which were at one time viable, and the resulting destruction of the hopes of millions of people in the US who owned or relied on those businesses for their livelihoods, but it is moving employment in a better direction.
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Pervis Muldoon wrote:TravelinMan wrote:Wish the Chinese weren’t involved.
I like international cooperation that benefits America. What is it about Chinese people that bothers you?
The people? Nothing.
The government? So many things.
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Maybe it should be noted that these batteries are for Ford and that building battery plants near vehicle production facilities makes sense due to the weight & size of vehicle battery packs.
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Re: Big Gretch lands Ford/EV battery factory for Michigan worth billions. 2500 new jobs coming to Marshall. Wow.
Also congrats to Big Gretch for being second choice alternate backup winner with Ford and the Commies. She should send the governor of Virginia a nice basket of fudge or something.
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Thanks Whitmer
Travelin Man schtick was the clown laughing about the boondoggle of the LG battery plant in Holland MI as hybrids were being introduced by every major automotive company.
March of 2022 LG announced a $1.7B expansion
https://insideevs.com/news/575359/lges-plant-expansion-michigan/
In Jan 2023 a $1.975B battery assembly plant employing 1500 was announced for the Big Rapids area in Mecosta County
Today Ford announces their $3.5B investment in Marshall and the only comeback from a self-labeled “conservative” who was a cheerleader for the 2017 Tax Act is meadow muffin mumbling how VA’s governor decided to make his decision an anti-Chinese statement.
Funny how “conservatives” talk big about job creation but the GOP contriolled the MI legislature for two decades and 8 years of the governors office and MI lost jobs.
“That woman” as the West MI GOP calls our governor has landed $7.35B in commitments that will be breaking ground soon.
Tell us about the Carrier jobs that were “saved” in Indianapolis. Tell us about the Foxconn jobs created in WI?
Travelin Man schtick was the clown laughing about the boondoggle of the LG battery plant in Holland MI as hybrids were being introduced by every major automotive company.
March of 2022 LG announced a $1.7B expansion
https://insideevs.com/news/575359/lges-plant-expansion-michigan/
In Jan 2023 a $1.975B battery assembly plant employing 1500 was announced for the Big Rapids area in Mecosta County
Today Ford announces their $3.5B investment in Marshall and the only comeback from a self-labeled “conservative” who was a cheerleader for the 2017 Tax Act is meadow muffin mumbling how VA’s governor decided to make his decision an anti-Chinese statement.
Funny how “conservatives” talk big about job creation but the GOP contriolled the MI legislature for two decades and 8 years of the governors office and MI lost jobs.
“That woman” as the West MI GOP calls our governor has landed $7.35B in commitments that will be breaking ground soon.
Tell us about the Carrier jobs that were “saved” in Indianapolis. Tell us about the Foxconn jobs created in WI?
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GRR Spartan wrote:Thanks Whitmer
Travelin Man schtick was the clown laughing about the boondoggle of the LG battery plant in Holland MI as hybrids were being introduced by every major automotive company.
March of 2022 LG announced a $1.7B expansion
https://insideevs.com/news/575359/lges-plant-expansion-michigan/
In Jan 2023 a $1.975B battery assembly plant employing 1500 was announced for the Big Rapids area in Mecosta County
Today Ford announces their $3.5B investment in Marshall and the only comeback from a self-labeled “conservative” who was a cheerleader for the 2017 Tax Act is meadow muffin mumbling how VA’s governor decided to make his decision an anti-Chinese statement.
Funny how “conservatives” talk big about job creation but the GOP contriolled the MI legislature for two decades and 8 years of the governors office and MI lost jobs.
“That woman” as the West MI GOP calls our governor has landed $7.35B in commitments that will be breaking ground soon.
Tell us about the Carrier jobs that were “saved” in Indianapolis. Tell us about the Foxconn jobs created in WI?
Are you drunk again? What an incoherent rambling mess of a post.
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TravelinMan wrote:Also congrats to Big Gretch for being second choice alternate backup winner with Ford and the Commies. She should send the governor of Virginia a nice basket of fudge or something.
Pretty big assumption on your part as to if Virginia had this locked.
A more rational explanation is that Ford told the dipshit Virginia Governor that it was going to Michigan, and he did some damage control before it was officially announced.
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Trapper Gus wrote:TravelinMan wrote:Also congrats to Big Gretch for being second choice alternate backup winner with Ford and the Commies. She should send the governor of Virginia a nice basket of fudge or something.
Pretty big assumption on your part as to if Virginia had this locked.
A more rational explanation is that Ford told the dipshit Virginia Governor that it was going to Michigan, and he did some damage control before it was officially announced.
Ford told the VA gov ahead of time?!? Yeah, that’s the way those things usually work. LOL
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TravelinMan wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
Pretty big assumption on your part as to if Virginia had this locked.
A more rational explanation is that Ford told the dipshit Virginia Governor that it was going to Michigan, and he did some damage control before it was officially announced.
Ford told the VA gov ahead of time?!? Yeah, that’s the way those things usually work. LOL
So, where is your proof Michigan was second choice. I’d appreciate a link. Thanks.
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TravelinMan wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
Pretty big assumption on your part as to if Virginia had this locked.
A more rational explanation is that Ford told the dipshit Virginia Governor that it was going to Michigan, and he did some damage control before it was officially announced.
Ford told the VA gov ahead of time?!? Yeah, that’s the way those things usually work. LOL
Oh sure, the Ford CEO sits at a table full of hats, /s
Re: Big Gretch lands Ford/EV battery factory for Michigan worth billions. 2500 new jobs coming to Marshall. Wow.
In the meantime. Grand Ledge is gearing up to shoot down the mega site just north of their airport. From the article it appears as though they want their kids trespassing on farmland and would rather have a solar farm instead of a chip or battery factory.
MSU owns a majority if not all of the land under consideration.
Eagle Township residents organize to protest mega site development
MSU owns a majority if not all of the land under consideration.
Eagle Township residents organize to protest mega site development
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Site preparation can continue on about 900 acres in Marshall where Ford Motor Co. seeks to build a $3.5 billion electric vehicle battery factory, a Calhoun County judge has ruled in denying a request to issue a temporary injunction to halt the work.
The decision comes amid a legal fight between the city of Marshall and a citizen’s committee that filed a lawsuit against the city, seeking to force a public vote on rezoning that had allowed the megasite development that Ford calls Blue Oval Battery Park.
The property — located west of downtown and largely farmland — was purchased by the Marshall Area Economic Development Alliance (MAEDA) after the local economic development group obtained a loan and a grant from the state to facilitate Ford’s project.
https://www.bridgemi.com/business-watch/judge-denies-bid-halt-site-work-ford-ev-battery-plant-marshall
WHy are people so upset about more jobs & more business coming to their community?
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Trapper Gus wrote:Site preparation can continue on about 900 acres in Marshall where Ford Motor Co. seeks to build a $3.5 billion electric vehicle battery factory, a Calhoun County judge has ruled in denying a request to issue a temporary injunction to halt the work.
The decision comes amid a legal fight between the city of Marshall and a citizen’s committee that filed a lawsuit against the city, seeking to force a public vote on rezoning that had allowed the megasite development that Ford calls Blue Oval Battery Park.
The property — located west of downtown and largely farmland — was purchased by the Marshall Area Economic Development Alliance (MAEDA) after the local economic development group obtained a loan and a grant from the state to facilitate Ford’s project.
https://www.bridgemi.com/business-watch/judge-denies-bid-halt-site-work-ford-ev-battery-plant-marshall
WHy are people so upset about more jobs & more business coming to their community?
Because they are right wing nazi's that want to see our country fail rather than give credit to Biden our Whitmer. I was blocked on twitter by some nazi republican who was once head of the Michigan chamber of commerce and is going crazy with Whitmer's dealisng with China. When I showed him how many times Snyder went to China and tried to do business with China, (over 8) he said on twitter, "That was different". He then blocked me.
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DWags wrote:Trapper Gus wrote:
https://www.bridgemi.com/business-watch/judge-denies-bid-halt-site-work-ford-ev-battery-plant-marshall
WHy are people so upset about more jobs & more business coming to their community?
Because they are right wing nazi's that want to see our country fail rather than give credit to Biden our Whitmer. I was blocked on twitter by some nazi republican who was once head of the Michigan chamber of commerce and is going crazy with Whitmer's dealisng with China. When I showed him how many times Snyder went to China and tried to do business with China, (over 8) he said on twitter, "That was different". He then blocked me.
I just don't get why people are turning economic development into statewide and nationwide politics.
I've said on this board that not 100% of what the Trump administration actually did was bad, 85% maybe, but some of his economic moves & policies about starting foreign wars were okay. (Not the tax cuts, that was stupid)
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It’s all about CHINA until Trump is re-elected. Then he and his cronies will approve building plants in GOP friendly states because they are job creators.
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