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Post by Trapper Gus Fri 20 Sep 2024 - 16:38

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I must have missed the thread where all of the other "Democrats" on this board were defending gun rights. Just another day in paradise - Ban Guns!  - Page 5 502811600

Do we need a poll? In case you haven't noticed, we aren't exactly a representative sample of the party. Even with our extremist and idealists population I think a no vote would win in a simple poll of "should we ban guns?"

As best as I can tell, based on comments on here, I am the only one in the Ban Guns camp.
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Post by kingstonlake Fri 20 Sep 2024 - 16:48

TravelinMan wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:I own a plethora of guns... I do not own any military style assault wea... well... I actually do come to think of it. The kid inherited a Mauser(?) from the father in law. Its huge, old, heavy and really impractical. Never shot it. Would give it to the first law enforcement agent who would take it if it was "banned".

Do you own any semi-automatic pistols with a magazine capacity of more than 6 rounds?  They will want those, too.

I think you’re reasonable enough to admit the NRA and gun manufacturers created the unsolvable problem to the benefit of themselves. They played the long game very well.

Let’s be honest. If the reason was tons of guns to stop big government bogey man….. Big government bogey man would have never let it happen to begin with…
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Fri 20 Sep 2024 - 18:09

TravelinMan wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:I own a plethora of guns... I do not own any military style assault wea... well... I actually do come to think of it. The kid inherited a Mauser(?) from the father in law. Its huge, old, heavy and really impractical. Never shot it. Would give it to the first law enforcement agent who would take it if it was "banned".

Do you own any semi-automatic pistols with a magazine capacity of more than 6 rounds? They will want those, too.
No, but other than a shotgun, 22 and 30-06 don't need anything else.
Which is what practical gun owners are talking about. & I would venture to guess 85% of Michigan Ds own one of these.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri 20 Sep 2024 - 19:06

Maybe I'm in the minority.. which is fine. That's the point of controversial 'diversity' as it relates to fragile republicans/libertarians..

But I've never felt threatened in any way.. from NYC to Chicago to DC to Detroit to Atlanta to Miami to San Francisco..

But I feel more uncomfortable in Dewitt than I do in any of the places above where fragile republican/libertarian want me want me to be afraid of.

I guess I should carry an assault rifle and walk around in Dewitt.

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Post by TravelinMan Fri 20 Sep 2024 - 19:47

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Maybe I'm in the minority.. which is fine. That's the point of controversial 'diversity' as it relates to fragile republicans/libertarians..

But I've never felt threatened in any way.. from NYC to Chicago to DC to Detroit to Atlanta to Miami to San Francisco..

But I feel more uncomfortable in Dewitt than I do in any of the places above where fragile republican/libertarian want me want me to be afraid of.

I guess I should carry an assault rifle and walk around in Dewitt.

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Well, in Dewitt, out of 311 arrests made, 91% were for low-level, non-violent offenses from 2013-21. Also, the average response time for police to a critical call is under 5 minutes.

So you're probably safe enough. No need to get an Uzi.
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Post by GRR Spartan Fri 20 Sep 2024 - 19:55

I am always surprised at the fear of a Minority Report country the gun lobby uses and is repeated here.

I'm also confident that the people repeating the bullshit of:
"THEY"RE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS! EVEN SEMI-AUTOMATICS 10 SHOT MAGAZINE RUGER 22's!
don't believe the bullshit they type here.

The USA has too many unregistered guns floating about to ever take all of them. However the bullshit right up there with immigrants are eating your pets to justify doing nothing.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri 20 Sep 2024 - 20:10

TravelinMan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Maybe I'm in the minority.. which is fine. That's the point of controversial 'diversity' as it relates to fragile republicans/libertarians..

But I've never felt threatened in any way.. from NYC to Chicago to DC to Detroit to Atlanta to Miami to San Francisco..

But I feel more uncomfortable in Dewitt than I do in any of the places above where fragile republican/libertarian want me want me to be afraid of.

I guess I should carry an assault rifle and walk around in Dewitt.

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Well, in Dewitt, out of 311 arrests made, 91% were for low-level, non-violent offenses from 2013-21.  Also, the average response time for police to a critical call is under 5 minutes.

So you're probably safe enough.  No need to get an Uzi.
fine and dandy, but y'all white christians are fucking weird.

(I realize that this assessment offends y'all but I ain't in the business of making friends).
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Post by WhiteBoyHatcher Fri 20 Sep 2024 - 20:11

Half of them are too stupid to know any better and believe the lies. The other half are rich and care more about their 401k than basic human decency.

And make no mistake about it, the fact that Democratics make no secret about knowing and understanding the above is what drives them crazy and makes them hate us and dig their heels in even further.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri 20 Sep 2024 - 20:12



I'm going to vote for her even though she agrees with TM
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri 20 Sep 2024 - 20:13

WhiteBoyHatcher wrote:Half of them are too stupid to know any better and believe the lies. The other half are rich and care more about their 401k than basic human decency.

And make no mistake about it, the fact that Democratics make no secret about knowing and understanding the above is what drives them crazy and makes them hate us and dig their heels in even further.
as I mentioned above, I'm not overly interested in making friends with the fragile right wingers.

I'd prefer to take care of the kids.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri 20 Sep 2024 - 20:15

Trapper Gus wrote:

I'm going to vote for her even though she agrees with TM
I'll forever support women of color vs fragile white guys.

There's a reason women of color feel theatened..  and it's because of fragile white guys.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ Fri 20 Sep 2024 - 20:33

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Do we need a poll? In case you haven't noticed, we aren't exactly a representative sample of the party. Even with our extremist and idealists population I think a no vote would win in a simple poll of "should we ban guns?"

As best as I can tell, based on comments on here, I am the only one in the Ban Guns camp.

I agree, that's my recollection as well but i was being generous to the ban side.

Most of us are probably pretty far left compared to the average person in this country and most of us don't want or intend to support gun banning.

I'd be completely OK with strong assault weapons legislation making it very difficult to get them (but non impossible). Other than that, i think we need to better support our middle class and that will go a long way to making people more sane.
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Post by TravelinMan Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 7:50

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TravelinMan wrote:

Well, in Dewitt, out of 311 arrests made, 91% were for low-level, non-violent offenses from 2013-21.  Also, the average response time for police to a critical call is under 5 minutes.

So you're probably safe enough.  No need to get an Uzi.
fine and dandy, but y'all white christians are fucking weird.

(I realize that this assessment offends y'all but I ain't in the business of making friends).

Do you also realize that you have no idea if I am either white or Christian? But hey man, don't work too hard thinking about it.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 8:00

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Robert J Sakimano wrote:Maybe I'm in the minority.. which is fine. That's the point of controversial 'diversity' as it relates to fragile republicans/libertarians..

But I've never felt threatened in any way.. from NYC to Chicago to DC to Detroit to Atlanta to Miami to San Francisco..

But I feel more uncomfortable in Dewitt than I do in any of the places above where fragile republican/libertarian want me want me to be afraid of.

I guess I should carry an assault rifle and walk around in Dewitt.

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Well, in Dewitt, out of 311 arrests made, 91% were for low-level, non-violent offenses from 2013-21.  Also, the average response time for police to a critical call is under 5 minutes.

So you're probably safe enough.  No need to get an Uzi.
Also Dewitt votes liberal. Bob is stuck in 2003 but in modern times he’s thinking of St. John’s, not Dewitt.
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Post by TravelinMan Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 8:49

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Well, in Dewitt, out of 311 arrests made, 91% were for low-level, non-violent offenses from 2013-21.  Also, the average response time for police to a critical call is under 5 minutes.

So you're probably safe enough.  No need to get an Uzi.
Also Dewitt votes liberal. Bob is stuck in 2003 but in modern times he’s thinking of St. John’s, not Dewitt.

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Post by Trapper Gus Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 9:08

I think Bob has it just about right...both places need to start working on a diversity plan...

Overview of DeWitt Demographics
The demographics of DeWitt offer invaluable insights into the composition, dynamics and needs of both urban and rural areas, empowering planners, developers and policymakers to foster prosperity, equity, and well-being for all residents. With a population of 4,743, DeWitt exhibits a population density of 1,672 people per square mile, contrasting with the national average of 91. The median age stands at 45.2, with 71% of individuals aged 15 or older being married and 42% having children under 18. In terms of income equality in DeWitt, 6% of households report a median income below $25,000, while 31% report an income exceeding $150,000, showcasing a diverse economic landscape.

DeWitt Racial Demographics & Ethnicity
The DeWitt racial demographics and ethnicity breakdown could be indispensable tools for recognizing and rectifying systemic inequities, fostering social justice and inclusion and cultivating resilient communities. In DeWitt, the racial breakdown reveals 80.9% White, 2.8% Black or African American, 0.8% Asian, 0.7% American Indian and 0% Native Hawaiian, with 6.4% of the population identifying as Hispanic or Latino. Of all households, 91.8% reported speaking English only, while 4.5% reported speaking Spanish only. Moreover, 5.4% of residents were classified as foreign-born.

Overview of St. Johns Demographics
The demographics of St. Johns offer invaluable insights into the composition, dynamics and needs of both urban and rural areas, empowering planners, developers and policymakers to foster prosperity, equity, and well-being for all residents. With a population of 7,920, St. Johns exhibits a population density of 1,880 people per square mile, contrasting with the national average of 91. The median age stands at 39.1, with 54% of individuals aged 15 or older being married and 41% having children under 18. In terms of income equality in St. Johns, 18% of households report a median income below $25,000, while 14% report an income exceeding $150,000, showcasing a diverse economic landscape.

St. Johns Racial Demographics & Ethnicity
The St. Johns racial demographics and ethnicity breakdown serves as a critical tool for understanding and addressing systemic inequities, promoting social justice and inclusion and building stronger, more resilient communities. The racial breakdown in St. Johns is 95.8% White, 1.8% Black or African American, 0.4% Asian, 0.1% American Indian and 0% Native Hawaiian - 1.4% of the population identify as Hispanic or Latino. Of all households, 98.2% reported speaking English only, while 0.1% reported speaking Spanish only. A total of 1.6% of residents were considered foreign born.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 10:57

Trapper Gus wrote:I think Bob has it just about right...both places need to start working on a diversity plan...

Overview of DeWitt Demographics
The demographics of DeWitt offer invaluable insights into the composition, dynamics and needs of both urban and rural areas, empowering planners, developers and policymakers to foster prosperity, equity, and well-being for all residents. With a population of 4,743, DeWitt exhibits a population density of 1,672 people per square mile, contrasting with the national average of 91. The median age stands at 45.2, with 71% of individuals aged 15 or older being married and 42% having children under 18. In terms of income equality in DeWitt, 6% of households report a median income below $25,000, while 31% report an income exceeding $150,000, showcasing a diverse economic landscape.

DeWitt Racial Demographics & Ethnicity
The DeWitt racial demographics and ethnicity breakdown could be indispensable tools for recognizing and rectifying systemic inequities, fostering social justice and inclusion and cultivating resilient communities. In DeWitt, the racial breakdown reveals 80.9% White, 2.8% Black or African American, 0.8% Asian, 0.7% American Indian and 0% Native Hawaiian, with 6.4% of the population identifying as Hispanic or Latino. Of all households, 91.8% reported speaking English only, while 4.5% reported speaking Spanish only. Moreover, 5.4% of residents were classified as foreign-born.

Overview of St. Johns Demographics
The demographics of St. Johns offer invaluable insights into the composition, dynamics and needs of both urban and rural areas, empowering planners, developers and policymakers to foster prosperity, equity, and well-being for all residents. With a population of 7,920, St. Johns exhibits a population density of 1,880 people per square mile, contrasting with the national average of 91. The median age stands at 39.1, with 54% of individuals aged 15 or older being married and 41% having children under 18. In terms of income equality in St. Johns, 18% of households report a median income below $25,000, while 14% report an income exceeding $150,000, showcasing a diverse economic landscape.

St. Johns Racial Demographics & Ethnicity
The St. Johns racial demographics and ethnicity breakdown serves as a critical tool for understanding and addressing systemic inequities, promoting social justice and inclusion and building stronger, more resilient communities. The racial breakdown in St. Johns is 95.8% White, 1.8% Black or African American, 0.4% Asian, 0.1% American Indian and 0% Native Hawaiian - 1.4% of the population identify as Hispanic or Latino. Of all households, 98.2% reported speaking English only, while 0.1% reported speaking Spanish only. A total of 1.6% of residents were considered foreign born.
Go look at how they vote. Which is what I said.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 11:37

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:I think Bob has it just about right...both places need to start working on a diversity plan...




Go look at how they vote. Which is what I said.


City of DeWitt ~ 53%D / 46%R

City of St John's ~ 40%D / 60%R

Charter Township of DeWitt ~ 30%D / 68%R

2020 Election

https://www.clinton-county.org/Archive.aspx?ADID=10532
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 11:40

Trapper Gus wrote:
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Go look at how they vote. Which is what I said.


City of DeWitt ~ 53%D / 46%R

City of St John's ~ 40%D / 60%R

Charter Township of DeWitt ~ 30%D / 68%R

2020 Election

https://www.clinton-county.org/Archive.aspx?ADID=10532
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 12:43

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fine and dandy, but y'all white christians are fucking weird.

(I realize that this assessment offends y'all but I ain't in the business of making friends).

Do you also realize that you have no idea if I am either white or Christian?  But hey man, don't work too hard thinking about it.
Y'all are fragile, too.

Also, no worries. I never work hard.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 12:45

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Well, in Dewitt, out of 311 arrests made, 91% were for low-level, non-violent offenses from 2013-21.  Also, the average response time for police to a critical call is under 5 minutes.

So you're probably safe enough.  No need to get an Uzi.
Also Dewitt votes liberal. Bob is stuck in 2003 but in modern times he’s thinking of St. John’s, not Dewitt.
decent folks creeping into Dewitt?

Nice.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 12:57

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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Also Dewitt votes liberal. Bob is stuck in 2003 but in modern times he’s thinking of St. John’s, not Dewitt.
decent folks creeping into Dewitt?

Nice.
It’s mostly people that traditionally would live in Okemos or East Lansing but there’s only so much space there and no new construction
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 12:57

And grand ledge and holt suck, so Dewitt is your overflow
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 15:52

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
decent folks creeping into Dewitt?

Nice.
It’s mostly people that traditionally would live in Okemos or East Lansing but there’s only so much space there and no new construction


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Post by Robert J Sakimano Sat 21 Sep 2024 - 15:53

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:And grand ledge and holt suck, so Dewitt is your overflow
yeah I've always figured Holt is basically south Lansing and Grand Ledge definitely doesn't seem like my scene. Weird vibe there.
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Post by Trapper Gus Sat 19 Oct 2024 - 11:10

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Post by Trapper Gus Thu 24 Oct 2024 - 8:34

For a third year in a row, in 2022 — the most recent year of finalized data — firearms were the leading cause of death for children and teens ages 1 to 17, according to a report from the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions.

https://michiganadvance.com/2024/10/24/guns-where-do-trump-and-harris-stand/

adding one of the latest murdering rampages, over homework...

https://apnews.com/article/fall-city-shooting-washington-f18108f6bfd4771aacd39c8d8a97bbf4
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