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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-08-19, 07:45

a celebration of America, who we are, and what we still can be. It's going to be so refreshing to see love of country, respect for the Constitution, the honoring of traditional American values, hope, empathy and happiness on display.

trigger warning for republicans/libertarians:

1. America, the military and veterans will be celebrated.

2. You will see women smiling and laughing.

3. You will see women being respected.

4. It will be an event to celebrate and honor all Americans.

you might wanna find your safe space now.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-08-19, 09:06

rumor has it that Jason Isbell might be playing a quick set at the DNC.

a) I doubt the mainstream media will show the good stuff like this..

and...

b) it would be the only way I would tune in.

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Post by PennSpartan 2024-08-19, 11:43

I wonder how many speakers at the Convention will say “America is a stupid country”? Should that be the theme, Bob?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-08-19, 11:48

PennSpartan wrote:I wonder how many speakers at the Convention will say “America is a stupid country”?  Should that be the theme, Bob?
I'd be okay with it but I doubt they'll ask me for suggestions when it comes to 'themes'.

heck, I'd just have them listening to good music, drinking beer and riding bikes... so I probably wouldn't ask me either, if I was them.
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2024-08-19, 11:51

PennSpartan wrote:I wonder how many speakers at the Convention will say “America is a stupid country”? Should that be the theme, Bob?

That's one of the major problems with the Ds... they don't get it. Rs get it. That's why every commercial they put on TV are filled with half truths (at best) and outright lies. Because they know america is a stupid country and a good chunk will react to their scare tactics or outrageous lies when a simple google would inform them otherwise.

(see any Paul Junge commercial)
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-08-19, 12:11

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:I wonder how many speakers at the Convention will say “America is a stupid country”?  Should that be the theme, Bob?

That's one of the major problems with the Ds... they don't get it. Rs get it. That's why every commercial they put on TV are filled with half truths (at best) and outright lies. Because they know america is a stupid country and a good chunk will react to their scare tactics or outrageous lies when a simple google would inform them otherwise.

(see any Paul Junge commercial)
I often say that one of the biggest problems the Democrats have is that they overestimate the intellectual curiosity and mental capacity of the average American.

Republicans/libertarians know that America is a stupid country. They run a guy who has been convicted of 34 felonies while making fighting crime the centerpiece of their campaign. And then tell me that I'm insulting them when I call America "stupid". tOfficial Democratic National Convention Thread..  502811600 tOfficial Democratic National Convention Thread..  502811600
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-08-19, 12:51

Robert J Sakimano wrote:rumor has it that Jason Isbell might be playing a quick set at the DNC.

a) I doubt the mainstream media will show the good stuff like this..

and...

b) it would be the only way I would tune in.


I’m not interested unless Tay Tay comes to play.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-08-19, 12:53

TravelinMan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:rumor has it that Jason Isbell might be playing a quick set at the DNC.

a) I doubt the mainstream media will show the good stuff like this..

and...

b) it would be the only way I would tune in.


I’m not interested unless Tay Tay comes to play.
I'm sure she's a nice person.

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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-08-19, 18:09

James Taylor is warming up with his band...
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2024-08-19, 18:39

Trapper Gus wrote:James Taylor is warming up with his band...
Why? Clinton's aren't being nominated.

Was hoping Missy Elliot... or Foo Fighter dad rock for Walz. Tay Tay for EVERYONE...

"You got a friend" hasn't cut it since like '82.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-08-19, 18:42

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:James Taylor is warming up with his band...
Why? Clinton's aren't being nominated.

Was hoping Missy Elliot... or Foo Fighter dad rock for Walz. Tay Tay for EVERYONE...

"You got a friend" hasn't cut it since like '82.

Tonight is the old people night...

Besides Joe's keynote speach at the end Hillary Clinton is giving a speach...
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Post by NigelUno 2024-08-19, 18:54

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PennSpartan wrote:I wonder how many speakers at the Convention will say “America is a stupid country”?  Should that be the theme, Bob?
I'd be okay with it but I doubt they'll ask me for suggestions when it comes to 'themes'.

heck, I'd just have them listening to good music, drinking beer and riding bikes... so I probably wouldn't ask me either, if I was them.

If Donald Trump can (and did) get elected, I'm not sure anyone should be questioning if "stupid" is the right word.
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Post by PennSpartan 2024-08-19, 19:45

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AvgMSUJoe wrote:
Why? Clinton's aren't being nominated.

Was hoping Missy Elliot... or Foo Fighter dad rock for Walz. Tay Tay for EVERYONE...

"You got a friend" hasn't cut it since like '82.

Tonight is the old people night...

Besides Joe's keynote speach at the end Hillary Clinton is giving a speach...

It’s spelled speech. Your girl AOC is also speaking tonight.

Palestine is a stupid country.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-08-19, 19:53

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Robert J Sakimano wrote:
I'd be okay with it but I doubt they'll ask me for suggestions when it comes to 'themes'.

heck, I'd just have them listening to good music, drinking beer and riding bikes... so I probably wouldn't ask me either, if I was them.

If Donald Trump can (and did) get elected, I'm not sure anyone should be questioning if "stupid" is the right word.
don't tell republicans/libertarians that.. they think America is packed to the walls with Rhode Scholars.

And they get really upset when you remind them of their christian hero.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-08-19, 21:16

PennSpartan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Tonight is the old people night...

Besides Joe's keynote speach at the end Hillary Clinton is giving a speach...

It’s spelled speech.  Your girl AOC is also speaking tonight.

Palestine is a stupid country.

You seem to know what I meant so rhe letters are meaningless.

The Zionists stole Palistine from its people with the support of the Brits & Harry Truman. They are the opressed...
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Post by Pervis Muldoon 2024-08-19, 21:29

I like Steve Kerr. Just a smart, decent leader. I wish he would’ve brought Draymond with him.
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Post by Pervis Muldoon 2024-08-19, 21:58

Hillary should say, “I’m speaking tonight and my husband is speaking on Wednesday. You know Bill. He could never resist hump day.”
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-08-20, 03:35

Pervis Muldoon wrote:Hillary should say, “I’m speaking tonight and my husband is speaking on Wednesday. You know Bill. He could never resist hump day.”
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-08-20, 03:36

Robert J Sakimano wrote:rumor has it that Jason Isbell might be playing a quick set at the DNC.

a) I doubt the mainstream media will show the good stuff like this..

and...

b) it would be the only way I would tune in.

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Post by NigelUno 2024-08-20, 09:03

Trapper Gus wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:

It’s spelled speech.  Your girl AOC is also speaking tonight.

Palestine is a stupid country.

You seem to know what I meant so rhe letters are meaningless.

The Zionists stole Palistine from its people with the support of the Brits & Harry Truman. They are the opressed...

Not sure I understand why people who claim to not care about that conflict, seemingly take a side so easily (without understanding the history).
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 2024-08-20, 09:50

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:I wonder how many speakers at the Convention will say “America is a stupid country”? Should that be the theme, Bob?

That's one of the major problems with the Ds... they don't get it. Rs get it. That's why every commercial they put on TV are filled with half truths (at best) and outright lies. Because they know america is a stupid country and a good chunk will react to their scare tactics or outrageous lies when a simple google would inform them otherwise.

(see any Paul Junge commercial)

They get away with it because the likes of CNN are making a play as a centrist organization by treating Dems with extraordinary fact checks and negative headlines, which has the effect of swinging CNN towards the right in reality given that they are treating the high volume of lies on the right relatively equally with the low volume on the left, thereby promoting the right wing agenda unduely
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Post by NigelUno 2024-08-20, 09:53

sεяεηιτλ wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:

That's one of the major problems with the Ds... they don't get it. Rs get it. That's why every commercial they put on TV are filled with half truths (at best) and outright lies. Because they know america is a stupid country and a good chunk will react to their scare tactics or outrageous lies when a simple google would inform them otherwise.

(see any Paul Junge commercial)

They get away with it because the likes of CNN are making a play as a centrist organization by treating Dems with extraordinary fact checks and negative headlines, which has the effect of swinging CNN towards the right in reality given that they are treating the high volume of lies on the right relatively equally with the low volume on the left, thereby promoting the right wing agenda unduely

You think CNN is more favorable to the right?

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Post by sεяεηιτλ 2024-08-20, 14:33

NigelUno wrote:
sεяεηιτλ wrote:

They get away with it because the likes of CNN are making a play as a centrist organization by treating Dems with extraordinary fact checks and negative headlines, which has the effect of swinging CNN towards the right in reality given that they are treating the high volume of lies on the right relatively equally with the low volume on the left, thereby promoting the right wing agenda unduely

You think CNN is more favorable to the right?

Suspect

When you consider the volume of potential topics of insanity that can be reported on by both sides, yes.

It's math

A simple made up scenario to illustrate the point of how a seemingly left wing outlet could actually be in the bag for the right:

If both Dems and Republicans have similar campaign speech, of Dems tell 5 lies but Republicans tell 45, and CNN reports equally at 3 lies each, tell me which party are they giving favorable coverage to?
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Post by AvgMSUJoe 2024-08-20, 14:51

sεяεηιτλ wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

You think CNN is more favorable to the right?

Suspect

When you consider the volume of potential topics of insanity that can be reported on by both sides, yes.

It's math

A simple made up scenario to illustrate the point of how a seemingly left wing outlet could actually be in the bag for the right:

If both Dems and Republicans have similar campaign speech, of Dems tell 5 lies but Republicans tell 45, and CNN reports equally at 3 lies each, tell me which party are they giving favorable coverage to?
If Biden babbled on about Hannibal Lecter and sharks, how would CNN cover it?
(they didn't mention trump)

If Kamala said she prefers to reward billionaire donors to war heros, how many news cycles would we be hearing it in? (id say weeks if not months... a blip for trump)
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-08-20, 15:07

the racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon is the best thing that ever happened to the mainstream media and it's why they're working so hard to get him re-elected.

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Post by TravelinMan 2024-08-20, 15:13

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
sεяεηιτλ wrote:

When you consider the volume of potential topics of insanity that can be reported on by both sides, yes.

It's math

A simple made up scenario to illustrate the point of how a seemingly left wing outlet could actually be in the bag for the right:

If both Dems and Republicans have similar campaign speech, of Dems tell 5 lies but Republicans tell 45, and CNN reports equally at 3 lies each, tell me which party are they giving favorable coverage to?
If Biden babbled on about Hannibal Lecter and sharks, how would CNN cover it?
(they didn't mention trump)

If Kamala said she prefers to reward billionaire donors to war heros, how many news cycles would we be hearing it in? (id say weeks if not months... a blip for trump)

It would be really out of character for Pudding Brains or Kamala to say something like that. It would be very news worthy.

For Trump that's an average Thursday morning.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 2024-08-20, 15:14

AvgMSUJoe wrote:
sεяεηιτλ wrote:

When you consider the volume of potential topics of insanity that can be reported on by both sides, yes.

It's math

A simple made up scenario to illustrate the point of how a seemingly left wing outlet could actually be in the bag for the right:

If both Dems and Republicans have similar campaign speech, of Dems tell 5 lies but Republicans tell 45, and CNN reports equally at 3 lies each, tell me which party are they giving favorable coverage to?
If Biden babbled on about Hannibal Lecter and sharks, how would CNN cover it?
(they didn't mention trump)

If Kamala said she prefers to reward billionaire donors to war heros, how many news cycles would we be hearing it in? (id say weeks if not months... a blip for trump)

And I am asked if I think CNN is biased for the right wing?? That's another example I didn't think of. The bias of topics being reported, not something relatively black and white like lie/truth
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 2024-08-20, 15:17

TravelinMan wrote:
AvgMSUJoe wrote:
If Biden babbled on about Hannibal Lecter and sharks, how would CNN cover it?
(they didn't mention trump)

If Kamala said she prefers to reward billionaire donors to war heros, how many news cycles would we be hearing it in? (id say weeks if not months... a blip for trump)

It would be really out of character for Pudding Brains or Kamala to say something like that. It would be very news worthy.

For Trump that's an average Thursday morning.

Indeed it is, and shows an inherent bias in coverage. I get that out of ordinary means bigger news, I guess, but that's still a huge bias as it is giving one candidate a pass for stupidity
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Post by TravelinMan 2024-08-20, 15:33

sεяεηιτλ wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

It would be really out of character for Pudding Brains or Kamala to say something like that. It would be very news worthy.

For Trump that's an average Thursday morning.

Indeed it is, and shows an inherent bias in coverage. I get that out of ordinary means bigger news, I guess, but that's still a huge bias as it is giving one candidate a pass for stupidity

Is it "news" if everyone knows it already?
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Post by PennSpartan 2024-08-20, 15:57

TravelinMan wrote:
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Indeed it is, and shows an inherent bias in coverage. I get that out of ordinary means bigger news, I guess, but that's still a huge bias as it is giving one candidate a pass for stupidity

Is it "news" if everyone knows it already?

This. CNN and MSNBC haven’t been news in years. It’s opinion. They have panel discussions and dissect every word the candidates say. I used to enjoy Headline News back in the day when it was actually news, and you could quickly catch up with what is going on any time of day. Now that channel is nothing but crime stories.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-08-20, 15:59

TravelinMan wrote:
sεяεηιτλ wrote:

Indeed it is, and shows an inherent bias in coverage. I get that out of ordinary means bigger news, I guess, but that's still a huge bias as it is giving one candidate a pass for stupidity

Is it "news" if everyone knows it already?

Trump is advocating for mass murder.

Harris is advocating for middle class monetary support.

Which is something thar people should be more aware of?
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-08-20, 16:03

PennSpartan wrote:
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Is it "news" if everyone knows it already?

This.  CNN and MSNBC haven’t been news in years.  It’s opinion.  They have panel discussions and dissect every word the candidates say.  I used to enjoy Headline News back in the day when it was actually news, and you could quickly catch up with what is going on any time of day.  Now that channel is nothing but crime stories.

F*** it.

Unless you sort out the common denominator between 20 different sources you cannot "get" the news.

Just a bunch of wooly headed opinions at best or propaganda trying to drive you to a conclusion.

They are all in the business of selling clicks for advertising.
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Post by PennSpartan 2024-08-20, 16:25

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This.  CNN and MSNBC haven’t been news in years.  It’s opinion.  They have panel discussions and dissect every word the candidates say.  I used to enjoy Headline News back in the day when it was actually news, and you could quickly catch up with what is going on any time of day.  Now that channel is nothing but crime stories.

F*** it.

Unless you sort out the common denominator between 20 different sources you cannot "get" the news.

Just a bunch of wooly headed opinions at best or propaganda trying to drive you to a conclusion.

They are all in the business of selling clicks for advertising.

Did you read what I said? It’s opinion, not news. It’s no different than watching Tucker Carlson. Your teevee has an on/off switch. Use it.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-08-20, 17:25

PennSpartan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

F*** it.

Unless you sort out the common denominator between 20 different sources you cannot "get" the news.

Just a bunch of wooly headed opinions at best or propaganda trying to drive you to a conclusion.

They are all in the business of selling clicks for advertising.

Did you read what I said? It’s opinion, not news. It’s no different than watching Tucker Carlson. Your teevee has an on/off switch. Use it.

I use printed media, idiot, as anyone who really wants to understand what is going on does...
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Post by PennSpartan 2024-08-20, 17:33

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PennSpartan wrote:

Did you read what I said? It’s opinion, not news. It’s no different than watching Tucker Carlson. Your teevee has an on/off switch. Use it.

I use printed media, idiot, as anyone who really wants to understand what is going on does...

I use printed media, too. When I want to know what happened YESTERDAY.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2024-08-20, 18:57

Fun to watch our resident republican/libertarian posters normalize the racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon and the mainstream media coverage of their christian hero.
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Post by PennSpartan 2024-08-20, 19:37

Robert J Sakimano wrote:Fun to watch our resident republican/libertarian posters normalize the racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon and the mainstream media coverage of their christian hero.

I hope you don’t have a job where you interact with the public, Bob. That would be sad.
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Post by Trapper Gus 2024-08-20, 20:46

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I use printed media, idiot, as anyone who really wants to understand what is going on does...

I use printed media, too. When I want to know what happened YESTERDAY.

Unless it's a storm bearing down on your house detailed reporting from yesterday tells you what is going on while frantic shouting about the mob today is useless.
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Post by PennSpartan 2024-08-20, 21:42

I’ll give Bernie credit. Pretty good speech tonight.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ 2024-08-20, 21:43

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Indeed it is, and shows an inherent bias in coverage. I get that out of ordinary means bigger news, I guess, but that's still a huge bias as it is giving one candidate a pass for stupidity

Is it "news" if everyone knows it already?

You're actually talking about people assuming alreadythat he or repubs are dipshits. That's an assumption and you're treating it like an assumption everyone knows. You're right in a sense and it's sad. It's absolutely news whenever a presidential candidate says something asinine though even if it was already assumed. It's a new thing he says.
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