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Post by sεяεηιτλ Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:47 pm

PennSpartan wrote:I’ll give Bernie credit.  Pretty good speech tonight.

His old man delivery/shouting gets to me.  But you got to give him credit that he seems to care and the things he says are generally all improvement of life kind of stuff.  And he always stays on his message.  That's a heck of a lot more and positive than most politicians.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:59 pm

I watched like 4 speakers. I can't handle it anymore. I"d be good for a year if it wasn't an election year with debates
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Post by Pervis Muldoon Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:57 pm

Michelle Obama is very effective. She was always a good speaker. Now she’s a top-notch performer behind the podium. This speech is terrific.
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Post by DWags Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:09 pm

Pervis Muldoon wrote:Michelle Obama is very effective. She was always a good speaker. Now she’s a top-notch performer behind the podium. This speech is terrific.


She was outstanding. That black Jobs line took the roof off.

I’m guessing there’s a certain Trumper on this board that is seething even more tonight. If he has a dog I hope he’s not kicking it.
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Post by Pervis Muldoon Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:55 pm

DWags wrote:
Pervis Muldoon wrote:Michelle Obama is very effective. She was always a good speaker. Now she’s a top-notch performer behind the podium. This speech is terrific.


She was outstanding. That black Jobs line took the roof off.

I’m guessing there’s a certain Trumper on this board that is seething even more tonight. If he has a dog I hope he’s not kicking it.

The black jobs line was fun. Her line about the affirmative action of generational wealth was my favorite phrase of the night.
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:19 am

PennSpartan wrote:I’ll give Bernie credit.  Pretty good speech tonight.

He'll must be frozen over.  It's the same speach he's been giving for years, with the names changed.


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Post by TravelinMan Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:31 am

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Is it "news" if everyone knows it already?

You're actually talking about people assuming alreadythat he or repubs are dipshits. That's an assumption and you're treating it like an assumption everyone knows. You're right in a sense and it's sad. It's absolutely news whenever a presidential candidate says something asinine though even if it was already assumed. It's a new thing he says.

There's no one out there who doesn't know what Trump is at this point. We had four years of him in office, and four years of him in the court rooms and media. There probably aren't any surprises as to "who he is" any more.

Some people are OK with that and will vote for him, and others call him a racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon.

Very few people know who Kamala is. And we might not find out who she is until well after the election. She's the "Door #3" of politics at the moment.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:38 am

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Is it "news" if everyone knows it already?

Trump is advocating for mass murder.

Harris is advocating for middle class monetary support.

Which is something thar people should be more aware of?
you're not trying to have a rational conversation with a christian republican/libertarians, are you?
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:39 am

PennSpartan wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:Fun to watch our resident republican/libertarian posters normalize the racist,  bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon and the mainstream media coverage of their christian hero.

I hope you don’t have a job where you interact with the public, Bob.  That would be sad.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:41 am

sεяεηιτλ wrote:I watched like 4 speakers. I can't handle it anymore. I"d be good for a year if it wasn't an election year with debates
we need an Isbell show with a 30 second political speech between the main set and the encore.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:42 am

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Pervis Muldoon wrote:Michelle Obama is very effective. She was always a good speaker. Now she’s a top-notch performer behind the podium. This speech is terrific.


She was outstanding. That black Jobs line took the roof off.

I’m guessing there’s a certain Trumper on this board that is seething even more tonight. If he has a dog I hope he’s not kicking it.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:43 am

TravelinMan wrote:
sεяεηιτλ wrote:

You're actually talking about people assuming alreadythat he or repubs are dipshits. That's an assumption and you're treating it like an assumption everyone knows. You're right in a sense and it's sad. It's absolutely news whenever a presidential candidate says something asinine though even if it was already assumed. It's a new thing he says.

There's no one out there who doesn't know what Trump is at this point. We had four years of him in office, and four years of him in the court rooms and media. There probably aren't any surprises as to "who he is" any more.

Some people are OK with that and will vote for him, and others call him a racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon.

Very few people know who Kamala is. And we might not find out who she is until well after the election. She's the "Door #3" of politics at the moment.
she's a female who smiles and laughs. that drives republicans/libertarians crazy, so that's enough for me.

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Post by NigelUno Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:56 am

sεяεηιτλ wrote:
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You think CNN is more favorable to the right?

Suspect

When you consider the volume of potential topics of insanity that can be reported on by both sides, yes.

It's math

A simple made up scenario to illustrate the point of how a seemingly left wing outlet could actually be in the bag for the right:

If both Dems and Republicans have similar campaign speech, of Dems tell 5 lies but Republicans tell 45, and CNN reports equally at 3 lies each, tell me which party are they giving favorable coverage to?

Are you saying CNN caps the amounts of lies in stories for each candidate? Come on.

Fact check: Trump makes more than 20 false claims at news conference
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:24 am

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Trapper Gus wrote:

Trump is advocating for mass murder.

Harris is advocating for middle class monetary support.

Which is something thar people should be more aware of?
you're not trying to have a rational conversation with a christian republican/libertarians, are you?

Yes we can!
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:29 am

TravelinMan wrote:
sεяεηιτλ wrote:

You're actually talking about people assuming alreadythat he or repubs are dipshits. That's an assumption and you're treating it like an assumption everyone knows. You're right in a sense and it's sad. It's absolutely news whenever a presidential candidate says something asinine though even if it was already assumed. It's a new thing he says.

There's no one out there who doesn't know what Trump is at this point. We had four years of him in office, and four years of him in the court rooms and media. There probably aren't any surprises as to "who he is" any more.

Some people are OK with that and will vote for him, and others call him a racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon.

Very few people know who Kamala is. And we might not find out who she is until well after the election. She's the "Door #3" of politics at the moment.

She hasn't been crapped all over with negative campaigning to the extent Biden was, and why does the MSM not do the same to Republicans, but anyone who cares to can find out who she is in this internets age.
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Post by TravelinMan Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:31 am

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TravelinMan wrote:

There's no one out there who doesn't know what Trump is at this point. We had four years of him in office, and four years of him in the court rooms and media. There probably aren't any surprises as to "who he is" any more.

Some people are OK with that and will vote for him, and others call him a racist, bigoted, christian sexual predator, convicted rapist and convicted felon.

Very few people know who Kamala is. And we might not find out who she is until well after the election. She's the "Door #3" of politics at the moment.

She hasn't been crapped all over with negative campaigning to the extent Biden was, and why does the MSM not do the same to Republicans, but anyone who cares to can find out who she is in this internets age.

Look, Bro, I know you're still smarting that Pudding Brains got pushed aside, but it was for the best - trust us.
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:46 am

TravelinMan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

She hasn't been crapped all over with negative campaigning to the extent Biden was, and why does the MSM not do the same to Republicans, but anyone who cares to can find out who she is in this internets age.

Look, Bro, I know you're still smarting that Pudding Brains got pushed aside, but it was for the best - trust us.

You have such a different paradigm about what people are, interesting in a way, but incorrect in others.

Let me just say that not all people think and feel about the world as you do.

The facts are that the media tried to put Harris in a box over the last 4 years and, because they thought she was a lightweight they didn't work too hard at it. Now, for the next 77 days, they don't have the time to define her, like they did with Clinton & Biden.

It is analysis, not your emotions about me, that define how I feel about reality.

For some reason MSM craps on Democratics and downplays Republican weaknesses, and people who are saying they were blindsided by Biden deftly putting her forward as his replacement and now cannot control the narrative are correct.

It may be enough to overcome the media bias against Democratics in this election.

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Post by PennSpartan Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:18 am

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PennSpartan wrote:

I hope you don’t have a job where you interact with the public, Bob.  That would be sad.
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Post by PennSpartan Wed Aug 21, 2024 11:21 am

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Look, Bro, I know you're still smarting that Pudding Brains got pushed aside, but it was for the best - trust us.

You have such a different paradigm about what people are, interesting in a way, but incorrect in others.

Let me just say that not all people think and feel about the world as you do.

The facts are that the media tried to put Harris in a box over the last 4 years and, because they thought she was a lightweight they didn't work too hard at it. Now, for the next 77 days, they don't have the time to define her, like they did with Clinton & Biden.

It is analysis, not your emotions about me, that define how I feel about reality.

For some reason MSM craps on Democratics and downplays Republican weaknesses, and people who are saying they were blindsided by Biden deftly putting her forward as his replacement and now cannot control the narrative are correct.

It may be enough to overcome the media bias against Democratics in this election.


It’s hilarious that you continuously tell us what the MSM does, while claiming you pay no attention to it.
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:21 pm

PennSpartan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

You have such a different paradigm about what people are, interesting in a way, but incorrect in others.

Let me just say that not all people think and feel about the world as you do.

The facts are that the media tried to put Harris in a box over the last 4 years and, because they thought she was a lightweight they didn't work too hard at it.  Now, for the next 77 days, they don't have the time to define her, like they did with Clinton & Biden.

It is analysis, not your emotions about me, that define how I feel about reality.

For some reason MSM craps on Democratics and downplays Republican weaknesses, and people who are saying they were blindsided by Biden deftly putting her forward as his replacement and now cannot control the narrative are correct.

It may be enough to overcome the media bias against Democratics in this election.


It’s hilarious that you continuously tell us what the MSM does, while claiming you pay no attention to it.  

I read MSM stuff...I'm smart enough to ignore broadcast MSM, which both feeds out "if it bleeds it leads" stuff and is unable to provide the depth needed to understand what is really going on.

One only has to observe posters reacting to the next shiny object the MSM broadcasts puts in front of them to understand that broadcast MSM is just propaganda without much substance.

I strongly suggest all of you stop watching and listening to it and instead read more detailed written articles, even if they are in Fox properties.


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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:23 pm

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
PennSpartan wrote:

Best news of the day.
I worked hard to get to where I am.

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I still wonder what your degrees are in...
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:26 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote: I worked hard to get to where I am.

which is a 75 minute trail run at dawn, now eating a sandwich, about to take a nap. tOfficial Democratic National Convention Thread..  - Page 2 969504605

I still wonder what your degrees are in...
a 'job' implies work.. I've never really worked at anything (other than running, cycling, being front row for Springsteen a bunch of times).

I do have somewhere I go every now and then.. they expect me to show up in exchange for a direct deposit into the bank, and I suspect my wife enjoys the house to herself (she works 100% remote).

I have a good gig. Very fortunate.
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Post by TravelinMan Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:38 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
TravelinMan wrote:

Look, Bro, I know you're still smarting that Pudding Brains got pushed aside, but it was for the best - trust us.

You have such a different paradigm about what people are, interesting in a way, but incorrect in others.

Let me just say that not all people think and feel about the world as you do.

The facts are that the media tried to put Harris in a box over the last 4 years and, because they thought she was a lightweight they didn't work too hard at it. Now, for the next 77 days, they don't have the time to define her, like they did with Clinton & Biden.

It is analysis, not your emotions about me, that define how I feel about reality.

For some reason MSM craps on Democratics and downplays Republican weaknesses, and people who are saying they were blindsided by Biden deftly putting her forward as his replacement and now cannot control the narrative are correct.

It may be enough to overcome the media bias against Democratics in this election.


Again, I don't think tMSM is so much downplaying Trump as they are just burned out on him. If they reported every time he acted like an ass, they'd have to dedicate a separate 24/7 channel. It's no longer news. It's not surprising or shocking. It's just who he is. You either like it or you don't.

Kamala is the new shiny object. There's a lot of hope and optimism around her. If she can prevent the media from digging too deep and just let Trump be Trump, she should win in a landslide.
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Post by PennSpartan Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:45 pm

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It’s hilarious that you continuously tell us what the MSM does, while claiming you pay no attention to it.  

I read MSM stuff...I'm smart enough to ignore broadcast MSM, which both feeds out "if it bleeds it leads" stuff and is unable to provide the depth needed to understand what is really going on.

One only has to observe posters reacting to the next shiny object the MSM broadcasts puts in front of them to understand that broadcast MSM is just propaganda without much substance.

I strongly suggest all of you stop watching and listening to it and instead read more detailed written articles, even if they are in Fox properties.

I prefer to watch the convention rather than read about it in the paper the next day. I also prefer watching a ballgame to looking at the box score later. Different strokes for different folks.
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:58 pm

PennSpartan wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

I read MSM stuff...I'm smart enough to ignore broadcast MSM, which both feeds out "if it bleeds it leads" stuff and is unable to provide the depth needed to understand what is really going on.

One only has to observe posters reacting to the next shiny object the MSM broadcasts puts in front of them to understand that broadcast MSM is just propaganda without much substance.

I strongly suggest all of you stop watching and listening to it and instead read more detailed written articles, even if they are in Fox properties.

I prefer to watch the convention rather than read about it in the paper the next day. I also prefer watching a ballgame to looking at the box score later. Different strokes for different folks.

If they would broadcast the convention without talking heads telling us what to think. PBS interrupted their floor feed to chatter on about what they thought for 45 minutes or while some speakers were speaking.

Funny you bring entertainment into it, sports, which the MSM does okay at...
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Post by PennSpartan Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:20 pm

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PennSpartan wrote:

I prefer to watch the convention rather than read about it in the paper the next day. I also prefer watching a ballgame to looking at the box score later. Different strokes for different folks.

If they would broadcast the convention without talking heads telling us what to think. PBS interrupted their floor feed to chatter on about what they thought for 45 minutes or while some speakers were speaking.

Funny you bring entertainment into it, sports, which the MSM does okay at...

C-SPAN has the whole thing uninterrupted. Or just mute the sound when the talking heads bother you. It’s really not that difficult to watch.
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Post by Green money Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:14 pm

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TravelinMan wrote:

Is it "news" if everyone knows it already?

Trump is advocating for mass murder.

Harris is advocating for middle class monetary support.

Which is something thar people should be more aware of?
a lot of stupid in your post.
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:34 pm

Green money wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Trump is advocating for mass murder.

Harris is advocating for middle class monetary support.

Which is something thar people should be more aware of?
a lot of stupid in your post.

You are right. I shouldn't have to point out those two truths, and it is stupid that I must.

But as Bob says, we live in a stupid country.
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Post by Green money Wed Aug 21, 2024 4:36 pm

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Green money wrote:a lot of stupid in your post.

You are right. I shouldn't have to point out those two truths, and it is stupid that I must.

But as Bob says, we live in a stupid country.
Harris is giving away the country to illegals. She didn't do her job. Refute that.
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Post by kingstonlake Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:04 pm

Green money wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

You are right. I shouldn't have to point out those two truths, and it is stupid that I must.

But as Bob says, we live in a stupid country.
Harris is giving away the country to illegals. She didn't do her job. Refute that.

I’ve lost everything. Everything!!
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:08 pm

Green money wrote:
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You are right.  I shouldn't have to point out those two truths, and it is stupid that I must.

But as Bob says, we live in a stupid country.
Harris is giving away the country to illegals.  She didn't do her job. Refute that.

Sure.  

Trump  vetoed the best compromise bill on funding border protection we have had in 25 years because he wanted idiots like you to blame the Democratics for the level of border security when it was Trump and his lap dog Republican Trump cock sucker's who caused and continue to cause the lack of border security through lack of funding.

You are so uninformed a box of rocks looks smart next to you.
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Post by Motown Spartan Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:11 pm

Green money wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

You are right. I shouldn't have to point out those two truths, and it is stupid that I must.

But as Bob says, we live in a stupid country.
Harris is giving away the country to illegals. She didn't do her job. Refute that.

Bob has a Hispanic gay couple living next door to him. And he’s a white CIS male. Refute that tough guy!
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:15 pm

Green money wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:
You are right.  I shouldn't have to point out those two truths, and it is stupid that I must.

But as Bob says, we live in a stupid country.
Harris is giving away the country to illegals.  She didn't do her job. Refute that.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-special-advisor-on-border-matters-says-illegal-immigration-into-the-state-is-down-87-percent/ar-AA1paJcQ
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Post by AvgMSUJoe Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:20 pm

Green money wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

You are right. I shouldn't have to point out those two truths, and it is stupid that I must.

But as Bob says, we live in a stupid country.
Harris is giving away the country to illegals. She didn't do her job. Refute that.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4453955-senate-republicans-block-bipartisan-border-security-deal/
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Post by Green money Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:38 pm

Trapper Gus wrote:
Green money wrote:
Harris is giving away the country to illegals.  She didn't do her job. Refute that.

Sure.  

Trump  vetoed the best compromise bill on funding border protection we have had in 25 years because he wanted idiots like you to blame the Democratics for the level of border security when it was Trump and his lap dog Republican Trump cock sucker's who caused and continue to cause the lack of border security through lack of funding.

You are so uninformed a box of rocks looks smart next to you.
you will deserve Harris and her clan of communists when the cheat is successful. Resorting to personal insults clearly shows your lack of intelligence.
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Post by MiamiSpartan Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:04 pm

Green money wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Sure.  

Trump  vetoed the best compromise bill on funding border protection we have had in 25 years because he wanted idiots like you to blame the Democratics for the level of border security when it was Trump and his lap dog Republican Trump cock sucker's who caused and continue to cause the lack of border security through lack of funding.

You are so uninformed a box of rocks looks smart next to you.
you will deserve Harris and her clan of communists when the cheat is successful.  Resorting to personal insults clearly shows your lack of intelligence.
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Post by Motown Spartan Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:08 pm

Green money wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Sure.  

Trump  vetoed the best compromise bill on funding border protection we have had in 25 years because he wanted idiots like you to blame the Democratics for the level of border security when it was Trump and his lap dog Republican Trump cock sucker's who caused and continue to cause the lack of border security through lack of funding.

You are so uninformed a box of rocks looks smart next to you.
you will deserve Harris and her clan of communists when the cheat is successful. Resorting to personal insults clearly shows your lack of intelligence.

The irony of claiming a “cheat” and then calling out someone’s lack of intelligence is comedy heaven.
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Post by Trapper Gus Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:31 pm

Green money wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Sure.  

Trump  vetoed the best compromise bill on funding border protection we have had in 25 years because he wanted idiots like you to blame the Democratics for the level of border security when it was Trump and his lap dog Republican Trump cock sucker's who caused and continue to cause the lack of border security through lack of funding.

You are so uninformed a box of rocks looks smart next to you.
you will deserve Harris and her clan of communists when the cheat is successful. Resorting to personal insults clearly shows your lack of intelligence.

Wait...

Trumpp has said that personal insults are A-Okay.

Are you refuting your cult leader?

We all deserve, in a good way, Harris and the rebuilding of the social safety nets using the trillions that the billionaires have stolen from us.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:32 pm

Green money wrote:
Trapper Gus wrote:

Sure.  

Trump  vetoed the best compromise bill on funding border protection we have had in 25 years because he wanted idiots like you to blame the Democratics for the level of border security when it was Trump and his lap dog Republican Trump cock sucker's who caused and continue to cause the lack of border security through lack of funding.

You are so uninformed a box of rocks looks smart next to you.
you will deserve Harris and her clan of communists when the cheat is successful.  Resorting to personal insults clearly shows your lack of intelligence.
You’re a chicken shit coward
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