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Post by kingstonlake Wed 20 Nov 2024 - 14:01

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kingstonlake wrote:I guess an illustration of how far we descended into “shit hole country” is that the senate needs to actually see a house committee investigation on Gaetz being a sexual predator and drug user, to consider voting against him. Like he’s not a no vote from jump.
just don't say that 'America is a stupid country '.

It makes certain people sad.

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Post by Robert J Sakimano Wed 20 Nov 2024 - 14:10

'zactly.
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Post by kingstonlake Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 12:29

Gaetz withdraws.

Reports by CNN of a second encounter from the victim. Which CNN told him they were going public with.

BTW. How is Garland still employed?
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 13:14

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Travis of the Cosmos wrote:Even if he’ll get confirmed, is Matt gaetz certain he wants to subject himself to a confirmation hearing where senators can ask him about anything they want?


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Post by Travis of the Cosmos Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 13:15

“Hearing through the grapevine” fuck you you didn’t hear anything lying liar
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Post by Jake from State Farm Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 13:27

Looks like Gaetz has some things in his past he doesn't want made public:
Gaetz withdraws as Trump’s attorney general pick

He resigned from his old job as a congressman, I suppose he'll go crawling back to it
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Post by InTenSity Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 13:43

Jake from State Farm wrote:Looks like Gaetz has some things in his past he doesn't want made public:
Gaetz withdraws as Trump’s attorney general pick

He resigned from his old job as a congressman, I suppose he'll go crawling back to it
Wouldn't the report be released if he goes back? He'll start campaigning for the next Florida Gov.
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Post by NigelUno Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 13:46

InTenSity wrote:
Jake from State Farm wrote:Looks like Gaetz has some things in his past he doesn't want made public:
Gaetz withdraws as Trump’s attorney general pick

He resigned from his old job as a congressman, I suppose he'll go crawling back to it
Wouldn't the report be released if he goes back? He'll start campaigning for the next Florida Gov.

Yeah. I don't think going back is an option.
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Post by Floyd Robertson Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 13:50

Gaetz was just part of a plan so that when he's out we all breath a sigh of relief and accept whoever is Trump's preferred nominee anyway. Matt Gaetz has been nominated for Attorney General - Page 5 1550444538
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Post by Motown Spartan Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 14:08

In a shocking move, Gaetz demonstrates he has more integrity than Donald Trump.
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Post by NigelUno Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 14:19

Motown Spartan wrote:In a shocking move, Gaetz demonstrates he has more integrity than Donald Trump.

I don't know about that. Matt Gaetz has been nominated for Attorney General - Page 5 502811600

(He didn't have the votes, and knew it.)
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Post by Motown Spartan Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 14:29

NigelUno wrote:
Motown Spartan wrote:In a shocking move, Gaetz demonstrates he has more integrity than Donald Trump.

I don't know about that. Matt Gaetz has been nominated for Attorney General - Page 5 502811600

(He didn't have the votes, and knew it.)

Oh it was totally meant sarcastically.
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Post by Trapper Gus Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 14:52

NigelUno wrote:
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Wouldn't the report be released if he goes back? He'll start campaigning for the next Florida Gov.

Yeah. I don't think going back is an option.

Reports are saying as he resigned from the 118th Congress and has been elected to the 119th Congress he could return to his seat in January.

Don't know if ethics investigations can carry over to the next Congress
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Post by sεяεηιτλ Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 16:11

kingstonlake wrote:Gaetz withdraws.

Reports by CNN of a second encounter from the victim. Which CNN told him they were going public with.

BTW. How is Garland still employed?
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Post by NigelUno Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 16:37

Trapper Gus wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Yeah. I don't think going back is an option.

Reports are saying as he resigned from the 118th Congress and has been elected to the 119th Congress he could return to his seat in January.

Don't know if ethics investigations can carry over to the next Congress

Not a chance in hell he goes back to the House.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 19:00

If only the christian republican/libertarian had pulled out of young girls.
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Post by kingstonlake Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 20:13

Enter Pam Bondi

Does Florida have an endless supply of absolute corrupt garbage? Jesus.
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Post by GRR Spartan Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 21:04

My cynic voice has been telling me that Gaetz was a false flag nominee all along.  

I believe the political pros in the Trump camp knew full well Gaetz for AG was DOA but with some fancy footwork Gaetz resigned that got the Congressional report that’s been talked about for years buried from getting into The Congressional Record.  That report might have named others who don’t want to be identified so that all goes away.  Back to leaks that are always denied.  Then as others noted Gaetz can be sworn in Jan 2025.

The fact Trump named former FL AG Pam Bondi within hours makes me think this was a classic bait and switch.  Like her or not no one can say she isn’t experienced as attorney.  She’ll be confirmed using  “at least she’s not Gaetz” logic.
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Post by kingstonlake Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 21:30

He’s nominating as many compromised people as possible. Compromised people remain loyal. They have too much to lose.

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Post by GRR Spartan Thu 21 Nov 2024 - 22:35

Kingston, there are advantages of flooding the cabinet nomination with people who have so much baggage.

First and foremost as I alluded to with Bondi nominated so quickly after Gaetz. She gets confirmed because “At least she’s better than Gaetz”. Same for whoever replaces Linda McMahon at DoEd, RFK’s replacement for HHS and Dr Oz. All of them are inexperienced and can be frustrated by people within their respective departments.

However, Trump’s alleged second choices get thru and like Bondi, they know what they need to do to get Project 2025 rolling.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 7:25

Added benefit of continuing to flood the news media with Trump stuff.
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Post by NigelUno Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 9:32

GRR Spartan wrote:My cynic voice has been telling me that Gaetz was a false flag nominee all along.  

I believe the political pros in the Trump camp knew full well Gaetz for AG was DOA but with some fancy footwork Gaetz resigned that got the Congressional report that’s been talked about for years buried from getting into The Congressional Record.  That report might have named others who don’t want to be identified so that all goes away.  Back to leaks that are always denied.  Then as others noted Gaetz can be sworn in Jan 2025.

The fact Trump named former FL AG Pam Bondi within hours makes me think this was a classic bait and switch.  Like her or not no one can say she isn’t experienced as attorney.  She’ll be confirmed using  “at least she’s not Gaetz” logic.

He's not going back to the House.

That report will see the light of day whether it's officially released or not.
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Post by DWags Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 10:01

NigelUno wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:My cynic voice has been telling me that Gaetz was a false flag nominee all along.  

I believe the political pros in the Trump camp knew full well Gaetz for AG was DOA but with some fancy footwork Gaetz resigned that got the Congressional report that’s been talked about for years buried from getting into The Congressional Record.  That report might have named others who don’t want to be identified so that all goes away.  Back to leaks that are always denied.  Then as others noted Gaetz can be sworn in Jan 2025.

The fact Trump named former FL AG Pam Bondi within hours makes me think this was a classic bait and switch.  Like her or not no one can say she isn’t experienced as attorney.  She’ll be confirmed using  “at least she’s not Gaetz” logic.

He's not going back to the House.

That report will see the light of day whether it's officially released or not.



I’d bet a dollar to a donut all the news agencies have it. It’s just if they want to or can release it.
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Post by kingstonlake Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 10:15

Knowing Trumps position on going after the media there could be hesitation on their part at reporting on a leaked document. What was good reporting 30 years ago will now catch you a potential treason case.
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Post by MiamiSpartan Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 11:51

GRR Spartan wrote:Kingston, there are advantages of flooding the cabinet nomination with people who have so much baggage.

First and foremost as I alluded to with Bondi nominated so quickly after Gaetz. She gets confirmed because “At least she’s better than Gaetz”. Same for whoever replaces Linda McMahon at DoEd, RFK’s replacement for HHS and Dr Oz. All of them are inexperienced and can be frustrated by people within their respective departments.

However, Trump’s alleged second choices get thru and like Bondi, they know what they need to do to get Project 2025 rolling.
Bondi would get through regardless, not just as a "better than Gaetz" pick. Helping Trump's 2020 attempts at overturning the election aren't going to be a deal breaker for Republicans. If the Dems had 50 or more Senators, maybe not, but with a Republican controlled Senate easy.

I think Gaetz as the false flag to create the "at least they didn't fuck a 17 year old" concept, is for the other crazy nominations far more than Bondi.
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NigelUno wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:My cynic voice has been telling me that Gaetz was a false flag nominee all along.  

I believe the political pros in the Trump camp knew full well Gaetz for AG was DOA but with some fancy footwork Gaetz resigned that got the Congressional report that’s been talked about for years buried from getting into The Congressional Record.  That report might have named others who don’t want to be identified so that all goes away.  Back to leaks that are always denied.  Then as others noted Gaetz can be sworn in Jan 2025.

The fact Trump named former FL AG Pam Bondi within hours makes me think this was a classic bait and switch.  Like her or not no one can say she isn’t experienced as attorney.  She’ll be confirmed using  “at least she’s not Gaetz” logic.

He's not going back to the House.

That report will see the light of day whether it's officially released or not.
No need for him to go back to Congress, because he will be starting his 2026 Florida Governor campaign soon enough. That's been his plan for years.

Being kicked out of Congress would hurt that campaign. So he agrees to be Trump's false flag to rule everyone up. It gives him an excuse to quit the house just before the report is released (even though no one else quits when they get nominated). He was banking on the House traditional of usually not releasing ethics reports if someone leaves the House. And if he just quit without the spotlight of the AG nom, I bet it would have stayed quiet.

But now he can just lay low for a year, have that whole report leave people's mind, and then announce his candidacy for Governor. Then run a Trump-like campaign, claiming it's all a hoax, all just people out to get him, ball blah blah, and the majority of Floridians will forget/ignore that it was his own party in charge of the House when this investigation was done.

Governor Gaetz incoming.
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kingstonlake wrote:Knowing Trumps position on going after the media there could be hesitation on their part at reporting on a leaked document. What was good reporting 30 years ago will now catch you a potential treason case.
But also the more that's made public, the easier it is to track it back to the leaker.  So the leaker may have only given bits of the report out or asked the media to not release too much right away.

But now the media chasing it is kind of pointless (in the short term).  There isn't going to be a criminal investigation, so until he starts his gubernatorial, it is kind of a waste of time.  Though Trump would LOVE to have them keep chasing it and spending less time talking about his Reality TV Cabinet picks.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 12:10

MiamiSpartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

He's not going back to the House.

That report will see the light of day whether it's officially released or not.
No need for him to go back to Congress, because he will be starting his 2026 Florida Governor campaign soon enough. That's been his plan for years.

Being kicked out of Congress would hurt that campaign. So he agrees to be Trump's false flag to rule everyone up. It gives him an excuse to quit the house just before the report is released (even though no one else quits when they get nominated). He was banking on the House traditional of usually not releasing ethics reports if someone leaves the House. And if he just quit without the spotlight of the AG nom, I bet it would have stayed quiet.

But now he can just lay low for a year, have that whole report leave people's mind, and then announce his candidacy for Governor. Then run a Trump-like campaign, claiming it's all a hoax, all just people out to get him, ball blah blah, and the majority of Floridians will forget/ignore that it was his own party in charge of the House when this investigation was done.

Governor Gaetz incoming.
heat, sand, golf, old people and a child sex predator as potential governor? Shocked

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Post by NigelUno Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 13:56

Republicans don’t need Gaetz to win the Governor’s seat in Florida though. He’ll face negative campaigning from within his own party. A less slimy candidate should easily win.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 14:16

kingstonlake wrote:Enter Pam Bondi

Does Florida have an endless supply of absolute corrupt garbage? Jesus.

They do.
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Post by sεяεηιτλ Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 14:23

MiamiSpartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

He's not going back to the House.  

That report will see the light of day whether it's officially released or not.  
No need for him to go back to Congress, because he will be starting his 2026 Florida Governor campaign soon enough.  That's been his plan for years.

Being kicked out of Congress would hurt that campaign.  So he agrees to be Trump's false flag to rule everyone up.  It gives him an excuse to quit the house just before the report is released (even though no one else quits when they get nominated).  He was banking on the House traditional of usually not releasing ethics reports if someone leaves the House.  And if he just quit without the spotlight of the AG nom, I bet it would have stayed quiet.  

But now he can just lay low for a year, have that whole report leave people's mind, and then announce his candidacy for Governor.  Then run a Trump-like campaign, claiming it's all a hoax, all just people out to get him, ball blah blah, and the majority of Floridians will forget/ignore that it was his own party in charge of the House when this investigation was done.

Governor Gaetz incoming.

sex with a underage girl aside, out of all the trumpian dipshits we've been exposed to over the last 8 years, I think Gaetz is probably the most transparently worst one out of them all.  People like MTG and that one from Colorado are terrible and annoying, as are the governors and AG of other states like Texas and florida.  But Gaetz above all of them has shown he is the sleeziest, has zero shame about it, and even looked like a prototypical lying sleezey dirtball piece of shit willing to do and say anything. Even MTG at least has a relatively narrow niche, a narrow philosophy and caters to a select few. This guy, He's a nepo baby through and through and an absolutely terrible one at that. He is so bad and keeps trying to climb higher. He attaches himself to anyone and anything he thinks can help him. How any voters anywhere could repeatedly vote for him, I'll never understand.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 18:02

Other than Trump himself.

What is up with these guys.

To quote the great Marx, "I have a cigar too, but I take it out of my mouth once in awhile"
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Post by NigelUno Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 18:31

Matt Gaetz says he isn’t coming back to Congress “I’m still going to be in the fight, but it’s going to be from a new perch,” Gaetz said Friday.
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Post by MiamiSpartan Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 19:06

NigelUno wrote:Republicans don’t need Gaetz to win the Governor’s seat in Florida though. He’ll face negative campaigning from within his own party. A less slimy candidate should easily win.
They don't need him. But a lot want him. He's still loved in North Florida/the panhandle. We really need to give that area to you Georgians and be done with it.

But ultimately if Trump endorses Gaetz, he wins the nom. If both Trump and DeSantis endorse him, no one else should even waste their time running.
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Post by MiamiSpartan Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 19:15

Trapper Gus wrote:Other than Trump himself.

What is up with these guys.

To quote the great Marx, "I have a cigar too, but I take it out of my mouth once in awhile"
Yeah, Trump is the sleaziest if for no other reason than longevity and the volume of sleazy things over his life.

I was thinking that Trump is almost purposefully trying to surround himself with sexual abusers so that he isn't so morally inferior compared to those around him.  Not that he cares about morality, but he does care how other people view him relative to others.
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Post by GRR Spartan Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 19:35

Bobby Sak forgot Florida's fire ants, invasive pythons and mosquitos that carry West Nile Virus or Dengue Fever.

Still think it comes down to Florida being full of folks who believe Trump's bullshit about the good old days that never were.
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Post by Trapper Gus Fri 22 Nov 2024 - 20:18

GRR Spartan wrote:Bobby Sak forgot Florida's fire ants, invasive pythons and mosquitos that carry West Nile Virus or Dengue Fever.


Still think it comes down to Florida being full of folks who believe Trump's bullshit about the good old days that never were.


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Post by NigelUno Sat 23 Nov 2024 - 7:49

MiamiSpartan wrote:
NigelUno wrote:Republicans don’t need Gaetz to win the Governor’s seat in Florida though. He’ll face negative campaigning from within his own party. A less slimy candidate should easily win.
They don't need him. But a lot want him. He's still loved in North Florida/the panhandle. We really need to give that area to you Georgians and be done with it.

But ultimately if Trump endorses Gaetz, he wins the nom. If both Trump and DeSantis endorse him, no one else should even waste their time running.

I like the Gulf beaches. Love going there in the fall, and winter as long as you catch it on a warm weekend.
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Post by Jake from State Farm Sat 23 Nov 2024 - 12:07

Trapper Gus wrote:Added benefit of continuing to flood the news media with Trump stuff.

Kind of like they've been doing for the past four years? All that crap and rambling Trump was pulling over the past four years was designed to keep his name front and center in the news. He didn't want the MAGAts forgetting about him come election time.
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