Re: Uh Oh, Dear Leader is shaking his fists again

by **Floyd Robertson** 2017-04-04, 20:51

NigelUno wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

Well, nothing's off the table.

Thankfully, Ivanka has an office in the White House.

Jared's probably going to hop a plane to Pyongyang.

by Guest 2017-04-04, 21:00

Floyd Robertson wrote:
NigelUno wrote:

Thankfully, Ivanka has an office in the White House.

Jared's probably going to hop a plane to Pyongyang.

It really sucks that Trump has failed at solving North Korea. It's been what? 75 days? Such an incompetent boob.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2017-04-04, 21:10

LooseGoose wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

Jared's probably going to hop a plane to Pyongyang.

It really sucks that Trump has failed at solving North Korea. It's been what? 75 days? Such an incompetent boob.

Nobody's blaming him for not solving Korea in his first 100 days.

The incompetent boob part sounds about right though.

And we can move this the Bin now.

by **NigelUno** 2017-04-04, 21:18

Floyd Robertson wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

It really sucks that Trump has failed at solving North Korea. It's been what? 75 days? Such an incompetent boob.

Nobody's blaming him for not solving Korea in his first 100 days.

The incompetent boob part sounds about right though.

And we can move this the Bin now.

The Art of the Deal guy has made some great deals lately. I'm sure he'll figure out this whole China/North Korea thing. No worries.

by **y2kMgrad** 2017-04-04, 21:23

NigelUno wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

Well, nothing's off the table.

Thankfully, Ivanka has an office in the White House.

She can smack Un with one of her high heels.

by Guest 2017-04-04, 21:26

Floyd Robertson wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

It really sucks that Trump has failed at solving North Korea. It's been what? 75 days? Such an incompetent boob.

Nobody's blaming him for not solving Korea in his first 100 days.

I am.

by BleacherSwill 2017-04-04, 21:30

It is a dangerous person that claims they are the only one who can solve these problems.

by Guest 2017-04-04, 22:01

Frontline on PBS has a North Korea hour on right now.....not a special but a background.

by **GRR Spartan** 2017-04-04, 22:20

There was a Netflix movie about some guy from Central America who had some connection with N.Korea.

I think we would be seeing the same behavior from Dear Leader regardless of who won in November..

The frightening this is the 3rd generation dictator appears to have no compunction about killing those who he sees as a threat to him. He also is more daring threatening his neighbors and the US.

Best outcome would be for China to get tired of his shit and replace him with a more maleable North Korean China can control.

by **Jake from State Farm** 2017-04-05, 06:18

The little shit is pretty creative when it comes to offing the people under his command that dare to look at him sideways.

by **The_Dude** 2017-04-05, 07:32

LooseGoose wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

Jared's probably going to hop a plane to Pyongyang.

It really sucks that Trump has failed at solving North Korea. It's been what? 75 days? Such an incompetent boob.

Yeah no shit. After the massive fuck ups in office the last 16 years, Trump is a damn genius compared to them with regards to foreign policy.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2017-04-05, 08:21

The_Dude wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

It really sucks that Trump has failed at solving North Korea. It's been what? 75 days? Such an incompetent boob.

Yeah no shit. After the massive fuck ups in office the last 16 years, Trump is a damn genius compared to them with regards to foreign policy.

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by **Floyd Robertson** 2017-04-07, 06:36

US cyber attacks may be bringing North Korean missiles down

Experts are suggesting the in-flight failure and crash of the missile launched by North Korea on Wednesday could have been the result of a "left-of-launch" attack by the United States.

Hilarious if true.

"Left-of-launch" strategies involve electromagnetic propagation or cyber attacks against missiles immediately after launch, including through infected electronics aboard the weapon that confuse its command and control or targeting systems.

We've come a long way since entering WWI 100 years ago.

by **xsanguine** 2017-04-12, 01:52

LooseGoose wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

Jared's probably going to hop a plane to Pyongyang.

It really sucks that Trump has failed at solving North Korea. It's been what? 75 days? Such an incompetent boob.

Just allow Japan to fully militarize again. Those crazy fucks will have Kim Jong dead in 5 years. Japan was the ultimate warrior culture and they hate North Korea.

We cucked the land of the rising sun after WWII. They got pretty weird and started drawing tentacle porn. We need to let Japan get back to doing samurai shit.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2017-04-12, 10:47

Missiles of North Korea

Interesting stuff. A lot of short range capability and a couple of designs capable of reaching the U.S.

by **The_Dude** 2017-04-12, 11:36

xsanguine wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:

It really sucks that Trump has failed at solving North Korea. It's been what? 75 days? Such an incompetent boob.

Just allow Japan to fully militarize again. Those crazy fucks will have Kim Jong dead in 5 years. Japan was the ultimate warrior culture and they hate North Korea.

We cucked the land of the rising sun after WWII. They got pretty weird and started drawing tentacle porn. We need to let Japan get back to doing samurai shit.

Japs are cucked big time.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24614830

http://time.com/3998563/virtual-love-japan/

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2017-04-12, 11:44

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2017-04-14, 13:17

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39600426

We're going to be at war with Syria, Russia, ISIS, whatever is left of the Taliban, and North Korea. Can't wait!

by **DWags** 2017-04-14, 13:39

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39600426

We're going to be at war with Syria, Russia, ISIS, whatever is left of the Taliban, and North Korea. Can't wait!

I'm 55 and living in Michigan. Good luck to you guys.

by **GRR Spartan** 2017-04-14, 15:40

Just don't think asking China to help with North Korea then tweeting if China can't get things done the US will go it alone 48 hours later while sending the Carl Vinson to the Korean peninsula is helping things. Especially when North Korea is being led by a guy who had no compunction about sending an assassination team to kill his half brother on foreign soil and doesn't mind his people starving while he builds nuclear weapons.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2017-04-14, 15:55

DWags wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39600426

We're going to be at war with Syria, Russia, ISIS, whatever is left of the Taliban, and North Korea. Can't wait!

I'm 55 and living in Michigan. Good luck to you guys.

We might be too far away from DPKR missiles, but not Russia's. Not sure if knocking out U.S. manufacturing would still be an objective in 2017, though.

by **Floyd Robertson** 2017-04-16, 17:47

WOTS is that U.S. hacked the DPKR failed launch yesterday. Or some hacker anyway.

by **GRR Spartan** 2017-04-16, 18:48

Chinese hackers could do it more easily since nearly all of North Korea's advanced electronics and computers are imported through China.

Best part for them is they do the hacking and the US gets the blame. Best part for the US is taking the blame and China maintains its diplomatic relationship with North Korea.

by CheesySpartan 2017-04-16, 19:00

GRR Spartan wrote:Just don't think asking China to help with North Korea then tweeting if China can't get things done the US will go it alone 48 hours later while sending the Carl Vinson to the Korean peninsula is helping things. Especially when North Korea is being led by a guy who had no compunction about sending an assassination team to kill his half brother on foreign soil and doesn't mind his people starving while he builds nuclear weapons.

That's the carrier we played the game on!

by CheesySpartan 2017-04-16, 19:04

Floyd Robertson wrote:
DWags wrote:

I'm 55 and living in Michigan. Good luck to you guys.

We might be too far away from DPKR missiles, but not Russia's. Not sure if knocking out U.S. manufacturing would still be an objective in 2017, though.

You guys do realize Russia is a paper tiger now and the others aren't stupid enough to actually start a war with the US. It's all talk nothing more.

by **GRR Spartan** 2017-04-16, 19:32

Russia is a paper tiger with a nuclear arsenal.

Russia is also a paper tiger that controls at least 75% of the natural gas that goes to Europe.

by **InTenSity** 2017-04-16, 19:35

CheesySpartan wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

We might be too far away from DPKR missiles, but not Russia's. Not sure if knocking out U.S. manufacturing would still be an objective in 2017, though.

You guys do realize Russia is a paper tiger now and the others aren't stupid enough to actually start a war with the US. It's all talk nothing more.

That's not really a hand I'd bet on, but conservatives be conserving with all our lives.

by **tGreenWay** 2017-04-16, 20:12

CheesySpartan wrote:
Floyd Robertson wrote:

We might be too far away from DPKR missiles, but not Russia's. Not sure if knocking out U.S. manufacturing would still be an objective in 2017, though.

You guys do realize Russia is a paper tiger now and the others aren't stupid enough to actually start a war with the US. It's all talk nothing more.

You realize Putin is old school KGB who would love nothing more than to right the wrongs of late Soviet history? He might not do it with one grand slash, but he doesn't need to when a thousand cuts will bleed his enemy to death. He's already doing that. Your naïveté is startling.

by **DWags** 2017-04-16, 20:18

InTenSity wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:

You guys do realize Russia is a paper tiger now and the others aren't stupid enough to actually start a war with the US. It's all talk nothing more.
That's not really a hand I'd bet on, but conservatives be conserving with all our lives.

Is that a right wing talking point? I've seen it from a few right wingers here and on other boards. Russia should not be trusted... ever. Also, they don't want to fuck with America propper as much as they want breathing room resources and friendly governments near them. Would we actually be willing to bail out countries in Europe and the Middle East if they became aggressive towards them? That would cost 100's of thousands of lives.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2017-04-16, 20:25

DWags wrote:
InTenSity wrote:
That's not really a hand I'd bet on, but conservatives be conserving with all our lives.

Is that a right wing talking point? I've seen it from a few right wingers here and on other boards. Russia should not be trusted... ever. Also, they don't want to fuck with America propper as much as they want breathing room resources and friendly governments near them. Would we actually be willing to bail out countries in Europe and the Middle East if they became aggressive towards them? That would cost 100's of thousands of lives.

Somebody who they listen to definitely said that recently, probably on Friday, cause yeah it's suddenly a thing to say after several weeks/months of talking about Russia, it just now starts getting said. I'm not really interesting in debating (rush? That'd make sense. Some guy on fox? Maybe)'s talking points.

It'd be cool if one of them said where they heard that. But for whatever reason acting like every thought is 100% absolutely original instead of borrowed, inspired by, or influenced is some how a big deal in these conversations. I guess it's so they don't get called a sheep. I think it's silly but whatevs.

by **GRR Spartan** 2017-04-17, 10:49

The catch is that even with VP Pence trying to imply a threat by pointing out recent missile and bomb attacks in Syria and Afghanistan respectively, the US doesn't have enough cruise missles and smart bombs to start an attack and stop North Korean regulars from attacking S. Korea at the DMZ and go towards Seoul thats 35 miles south.

by **I.B. Fine** 2017-04-17, 11:46

GRR Spartan wrote:The catch is that even with VP Pence trying to imply a threat by pointing out recent missile and bomb attacks in Syria and Afghanistan respectively, the US doesn't have enough cruise missles and smart bombs to start an attack and stop North Korean regulars from attacking S. Korea at the DMZ and go towards Seoul thats 35 miles south.

Sincerely,
GRR Spartan, Chief of Inventory Control, All of the US Military

The may get to Seoul, but by then they will be begging for food and Pyongyang will be a parking lot occupied by the Chinese Army.
I trust there are at least a couple of somewhat sane people around Kim that would put a bullet in him before allowing that to happen.
Keeping North Korea is as important to China as South Korea is to us, and they're as tired of Kim's shit as everyone else.

by **GRR Spartan** 2017-04-17, 13:06

Now it's insults IB?

You do realize there would be 1000's of casualties total and real possibility of the North Korean troops gaining 5-10 km of territory past the DMZ the would be another to negotiate for?

What's your option? Use nuclear? Do you realize the North Korean leadership that has had up to an estimated 50% of the population suffering from malnutrition is going to care about losing 50,000-100,000 troops in a response to the US launching a conventional weapons strike?

I still think the optimal solution is to stand down and give China 90-180 days to squeeze Dear Leader into negotiating.

It's one thing to launch cruise missiles and use a big bomb in countries with no nuclear weapons with both in the midst of civil wars with multiple factions,

North Korea has starved its population for more than 50 years to build a large standing army, a missile delivery system and nuclear capability. They aren't going to cower is response to VP Pence implied threats.

by **GRR Spartan** 2017-04-18, 19:20

No worries. While Trump was announcing an "armada" was headed towards Korea, no one told the US Navy that had ordered the carrier group to Austrialia for manuvers.
Trump sounding tough while not knowing where a carrier group in the USN's Pacific fleet was headed.

In other new tough guy VP Pence was backtracking his talking and flipping to talking diplomacy.

Lincoln had a team of rivals.
Trump has a team of fuck ups.

by CheesySpartan 2017-04-18, 20:08

GRR Spartan wrote:Now it's insults IB?

You do realize there would be 1000's of casualties total and real possibility of the North Korean troops gaining 5-10 km of territory past the DMZ the would be another to negotiate for?

What's your option? Use nuclear? Do you realize the North Korean leadership that has had up to an estimated 50% of the population suffering from malnutrition is going to care about losing 50,000-100,000 troops in a response to the US launching a conventional weapons strike?

I still think the optimal solution is to stand down and give China 90-180 days to squeeze Dear Leader into negotiating.

It's one thing to launch cruise missiles and use a big bomb in countries with no nuclear weapons with both in the midst of civil wars with multiple factions,

North Korea has starved its population for more than 50 years to build a large standing army, a missile delivery system and nuclear capability. They aren't going to cower is response to VP Pence implied threats.

Relax...NK is crazy but not stupid enough to start a war with the US.

by AnomanderRake 2017-04-18, 21:20

It's my understanding that NK has a massive bomb shelter tunnel system under their capital that they would retreat to in the event of Nuclear War or an attack on Pyongyang That would certainly make things interesting. I wonder how long they could survive down there.

by **I.B. Fine** 2017-04-19, 00:50

AnomanderRake wrote:It's my understanding that NK has a massive bomb shelter tunnel system under their capital that they would retreat to in the event of Nuclear War or an attack on Pyongyang That would certainly make things interesting. I wonder how long they could survive down there.

That's what this is for: MOP
Though, like Cheesy said, they may be crazy, but they aren't stupid enough to think they could survive any real confrontation.

by **tGreenWay** 2017-04-19, 02:18

CheesySpartan wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:Now it's insults IB?

You do realize there would be 1000's of casualties total and real possibility of the North Korean troops gaining 5-10 km of territory past the DMZ the would be another to negotiate for?

What's your option? Use nuclear? Do you realize the North Korean leadership that has had up to an estimated 50% of the population suffering from malnutrition is going to care about losing 50,000-100,000 troops in a response to the US launching a conventional weapons strike?

I still think the optimal solution is to stand down and give China 90-180 days to squeeze Dear Leader into negotiating.

It's one thing to launch cruise missiles and use a big bomb in countries with no nuclear weapons with both in the midst of civil wars with multiple factions,

North Korea has starved its population for more than 50 years to build a large standing army, a missile delivery system and nuclear capability. They aren't going to cower is response to VP Pence implied threats.

Relax...NK is crazy but not stupid enough to start a war with the US.

Donnie, on the other hand, is crazy and stupid enough to start a war with NK. And as I've said for months, he's just salivating at the idea of using nukes.

by **I.B. Fine** 2017-04-19, 08:48

tGreenWay wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:

Relax...NK is crazy but not stupid enough to start a war with the US.

Donnie, on the other hand, is crazy and stupid enough to start a war with NK. And as I've said for months, he's just salivating at the idea of using nukes.

I'm hoping this is mostly hyperbole, Greenway. Trump is certainly a bit unhinged (show me a recent President that isn't, in some way), but nukes are light years beyond that.
Using leverage on China is what will make the difference. They can't afford the little dictator as much as us, and they certainly can't afford the USA putting him out of his misery instead of them. If he twitches they've got 150,000 troops on the border and, no doubt, an operative or two in Pyongyang that is capable of putting a bullet in Kim's oversized head.

by **DWags** 2017-04-28, 17:13

Just launched another one.

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