Shootings in-near Frandor. Avoid area.
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Re: Shootings in-near Frandor. Avoid area.
Phil McCrackin wrote:
I'm saying that there is an "expectation of violence" in a bank, even if it's never been robbed before.
No one would open a bank (or a pharmacy) without installing some form of security measures.
BoA near me has a security guard in the parking lot when they're open.
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RT @DimmerOlivia: Armored car is moving closer to the home and delivered a phone to person inside
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Re: Shootings in-near Frandor. Avoid area.
Rocinante wrote:
You said "the entire planet has an expectation of violence" and proceeded to list of security measures. That's where my initial point about hyper-vigilance came from. Then you argued against my point, which admittedly is only marginally related to the incident, so I'll let it lie. My point is (and always has been) that the "expectation of violence" is a fallacy that is perpetuated by interests that profit from it. Our country is by and large a safe place (in spite of, not due to the interpretation of the second amendment).
Banks Pharmacies, hell Toy Stores have the right to put whatever measures in place they want to, but to say they "should" is ignorant in my opinion and a slippery slope of counterproductive hyper-vigilance that sets a bad precedent about what a functional society is. Is it "us and them" or is it just "us"?
Again, philosophical, but relevant to me, if not to you.
It sucks that this happened. pointless loss of life is never okay.
I think you have confused me with MasonGuy, who said "the entire planet has an expectation of violence" and proceeded to list of security measures (none of which involved pharmacists or everyone else arming themselves).
I don't think toy stores have the same expectation of violence that a bank or a pharmacy has, but I think any store dealing with cash or inventory should have some security precautions in place, and I don't think that makes me a counterproductive hyper vigilante.
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Re: Shootings in-near Frandor. Avoid area.
Phil McCrackin wrote:
I think you have confused me with MasonGuy, who said "the entire planet has an expectation of violence" and proceeded to list of security measures (none of which involved pharmacists or everyone else arming themselves).
I don't think toy stores have the same expectation of violence that a bank or a pharmacy has, but I think any store dealing with cash or inventory should have some security precautions in place, and I don't think that makes me a counterproductive hyper vigilante.
On a related note, none of the pharmacies in the city I live in have any security beyond a lock on the door and (some have) a locked cabinet for schedule 3 drugs. Also, none of the banks have full time security.
Maybe it's a matter of perspective.
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RT @DimmerOlivia: Armored car is moving closer to the home and delivered a phone to person inside
LSJ reporting that the standoff appears to be over "without incident" but of course doesn't explain in detail. Dear God, that paper reads like it was written by a 3rd grader.
http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/viewart/20140512/NEWS01/305120020/Standoff-appears-over-neighbor-says-suspected-shooter-had-2-hour-shouting-match-Sunday
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Re: Shootings in-near Frandor. Avoid area.
Rocinante wrote:
On a related note, none of the pharmacies in the city I live in have any security beyond a lock on the door and (some have) a locked cabinet for schedule 3 drugs. Also, none of the banks have full time security.
Maybe it's a matter of perspective.
"I'm sure there are some pharmacies that don't have these security measures..."
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Detnews titles the article...
[size=30]Suspect in custody after shootings near MSU campus[/size]
[size=30]Suspect in custody after shootings near MSU campus[/size]
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Re: Shootings in-near Frandor. Avoid area.
Mayor Tripplett reporting the "shelter in place" has been lifted.
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Re: Shootings in-near Frandor. Avoid area.
Bit crazy for a Monday.
http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2014/05/east_lansing_neighborhood_turn.html
http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2014/05/east_lansing_neighborhood_turn.html
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