Re: Multiple police officers shot in Baton Rouge

by **tGreenWay** 2016-07-18, 13:01

The_Dude wrote:
Rocinante wrote:Can our resident righties please at least acknowledge that these two incidents were both lone gunmen, and that their talk about mental health whenever there's a white dude that shoots at an abortion clinic or invades a college campus should also fit in this situation and blaming the national conversation on black lives would be admitting that anti-abortion or racist rhetoric can be at least partially to blame for things like Colorado Springs or Charleston?

Can't have it both ways. Talk can lead to violence. The stokers of the flames need to be held to account for their hatred, in all situations.

To me both gunmrn represent how we have disgustingly failed to take care of our veterans when they get back home moreso than 'BLM'.

Both were vets who became mentally unhinged because the VA system is a fucking joke.

America 2016..where Dems would rather take care of illegal aliens than veterans.

Deflect, deflect, deflect. Throw out the VA when your original arguments are rejected by the truth.

You're a fucking idiot.

by **tGreenWay** 2016-07-18, 13:03

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

It's one of those inconvenient truths they hope will go away if they just ignore it. Kind of like how the_douche hasn't answered my question from yesterday when I pointed out the fallacy of his statement. RWNJs hate the truth because it leaves them exposed with no possible logical, rational response, so instead they fall back on old chestnuts like blaming the media.

Rob Corddry was spot on when he said that facts have a well-known liberal bias.

Here are some links that show you why it's the poor and the blacks fault.

Multiple police officers shot in Baton Rouge - Page 5 502811600

by **The_Dude** 2016-07-18, 13:09

tGreenWay wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

To me both gunmrn represent how we have disgustingly failed to take care of our veterans when they get back home moreso than 'BLM'.

Both were vets who became mentally unhinged because the VA system is a fucking joke.

America 2016..where Dems would rather take care of illegal aliens than veterans.

Deflect, deflect, deflect. Throw out the VA when your original arguments are rejected by the truth.

You're a fucking idiot.

What was my original statement?

Sorry if I dont take this thread full of psychopaths that name call and throw out personal attacks with every post seriously. Ya know? I just, I guess, don't really give a fuck if I answered some left wing nutjobs question.

And yes, the media is partly to blame. Remember, they peddled the blatantly false 'hands up don't shoot' and create false narratives that the sheep believe to be reality, when its far from it.

So yeah, when the media peddles blatantly false BS so they can boost ratings, yep, they are partly to blame.

by **kingstonlake** 2016-07-18, 13:12

LooseGoose wrote:Well according to our Dear Leader the coppers only need to admit their bias and faults and all will be well.

"There are legitimate issues that have been raised, and there’s data and evidence to back up the concerns that are being expressed by these protesters.

"And if police organizations and departments acknowledge that there’s a problem and there’s an issue, then that, too, is going to contribute to real solutions. And, as I said yesterday, that is what’s going to ultimately help make the job of being a cop a lot safer. It is in the interest of police officers that their communities trust them and that the kind of rancor and suspicion that exists right now is alleviated."

Did you channel your inner "Bob" for that one? Nothing could be farther from the truth.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-07-18, 13:13

The_Dude wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

Deflect, deflect, deflect. Throw out the VA when your original arguments are rejected by the truth.

You're a fucking idiot.

What was my original statement?

Sorry if I dont take this thread full of psychopaths that name call and throw out personal attacks with every post seriously. Ya know? I just, I guess, don't really give a fuck if I answered some left wing nutjobs question.

And yes, the media is partly to blame. Remember, they peddled the blatantly false 'hands up don't shoot' and create false narratives that the sheep believe to be reality, when its far from it.

So yeah, when the media peddles blatantly false BS so they can boost ratings, yep, they are partly to blame.

the problem with the "hands up - don't shoot" narrative is that the police murdered an unarmed black kid before he could speak for himself with regard to what happened.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-07-18, 13:13

kingstonlake wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Well according to our Dear Leader the coppers only need to admit their bias and faults and all will be well.

Did you channel your inner "Bob" for that one? Nothing could be farther from the truth.

by **kingstonlake** 2016-07-18, 13:17

The_Dude wrote:

Time to shoot the media. Dishonest liars that spread hate and division.

Have you narrowed down which individuals in the media you're advocating the murder of?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-07-18, 13:22

kingstonlake wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Time to shoot the media. Dishonest liars that spread hate and division.

Have you narrowed down which individuals in the media you're advocating the murder of?

a vocal Trump supporter advocating violence?

I don't believe it.

by **DWags** 2016-07-18, 13:26

[quote="The_Dude]

Sorry if I dont take this thread full of psychopaths that name call and throw out personal attacks with every post seriously. Ya know? I just, I guess, don't really give a fuck if I answered some left wing nutjobs question.

.[/quote]

You're a fucking idiot.

In one sentence this asshole calls people names a cries about them calling him names. Jesus

by Guest 2016-07-18, 13:39

tGreenWay wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
Guns don't kill people*.

Sincerely,

Republican Gun Nuts

* but Black Lives Matter, President Obama, the mainstream media, Rev. Al Sharpton, Eric Holder, et al. do.

And Cliven Bundy and his supporters and then the Oregon occupiers were just standing up to Big Government. BLM ain't nothing but murderous thugs.

Greenie? Got any posts of me supporting them?

I know it would fit your narrative, the problem is that they don't exist. Like Bobby, you're now making things up.

I condemn fruitcakes on all sides.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-07-18, 13:39

LooseGoose wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

And Cliven Bundy and his supporters and then the Oregon occupiers were just standing up to Big Government. BLM ain't nothing but murderous thugs.

Greenie? Got any posts of me supporting them?

I know it would fit your narrative, the problem is that they don't exist. Like Bobby, you're now making things up.

I condemn fruitcakes on all sides.

I'm not speaking for GreenWay but I don't think he was referring to you specifically.

Maybe you need to sit a spell under the shade tree.

by **The_Dude** 2016-07-18, 14:02

http://wtop.com/baltimore/2016/07/the-latest-baltimore-officer-acquitted-in-custody-death/

Libs, get as mad as you want.. Multiple police officers shot in Baton Rouge - Page 5 502811600

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-07-18, 14:05

The_Dude wrote:http://wtop.com/baltimore/2016/07/the-latest-baltimore-officer-acquitted-in-custody-death/

Libs, get as mad as you want..

wait a second..

in America.. a police officer is acquitted in a case where an unarmed black person died in police custody?

and you, one of the handful of open racists at tSwill, laugh about it??

color me shocked!

by **DWags** 2016-07-18, 14:46

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
The_Dude wrote:http://wtop.com/baltimore/2016/07/the-latest-baltimore-officer-acquitted-in-custody-death/

Libs, get as mad as you want..
wait a second..

in America.. a police officer is acquitted in a case where an unarmed black person died in police custody?

and you, one of the handful of open racists at tSwill, laugh about it??

color me shocked!

Did the good guy get off the hook? Or is this guy the bad guy?

I don't think it's much to ask that you start being a bit specific.

TIA.

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-07-18, 14:50

DWags wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:wait a second..

in America.. a police officer is acquitted in a case where an unarmed black person died in police custody?

and you, one of the handful of open racists at tSwill, laugh about it??

color me shocked!

Did the good guy get off the hook? Or is this guy the bad guy?

I don't think it's much to ask that you start being a bit specific.

TIA.

the good guy (the cop) had a gun.. the bad guy (the black kid) didn't.. and the black kid ended up dead.

so in this case, the good guy with a gun stopped the bad guy without a gun.

if you have further questions, let me know.

by **kingstonlake** 2016-07-18, 15:29

Which nazi moved this thread?

by **Robert J Sakimano** 2016-07-18, 15:31

kingstonlake wrote:Which nazi moved this thread?

I'm always amazed at how long it takes to move a thread from the main board to here.

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2016-07-18, 15:54

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:Which nazi moved this thread?

I'm always amazed at how long it takes to move a thread from the main board to here.

That was me. I leave it for awhile on purpose. Mostly while things are still actively news. Then I move it. Usually like 24-48 hours in. That seems to be the will of the people.

by **xsanguine** 2016-07-18, 19:06

tGreenWay wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

Exactly. It's all a fucking dick show.

I would never present news media as a target for a terrorist attack. But I'm not sure I'd shed many (if any tears) in the macro sense of things. Certainly the Starbucks Barista on the 32nd St side I'd feel bad for.

The rest.... we're overpopulated.

And I would never suggest you're coming across as an emotionally out of control whack job, but if you walked into CNN with an AR, it wouldn't surprise me.

Wow, really? You really think that of me, Greeny? I've never even owned or operated a firearm... but you honestly believe because I disagree with you politically that I would walk into a place of business with military looking rifle?

by **Rocinante** 2016-07-18, 19:23

xsanguine wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

And I would never suggest you're coming across as an emotionally out of control whack job, but if you walked into CNN with an AR, it wouldn't surprise me.

Wow, really? You really think that of me, Greeny? I've never even owned or operated a firearm... but you honestly believe because I disagree with you politically that I would walk into a place of business with military looking rifle?

Maybe he thinks that because you ramble on like David Koresh quite often.

by **xsanguine** 2016-07-18, 19:28

Rocinante wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

Wow, really? You really think that of me, Greeny? I've never even owned or operated a firearm... but you honestly believe because I disagree with you politically that I would walk into a place of business with military looking rifle?

Maybe he thinks that because you ramble on like David Koresh quite often.

Like what? Any examples? Even paraphrasing?

I know we have differing opinions but I never thought I gave the impression that I was trying to start a cult and move to a compound.

I just figured we just disagreed. I didn't think to disagree means I'm a cult leader.... but hey, believe what you want.

by **DWags** 2016-07-18, 19:30

Robert J Sakimano wrote:
DWags wrote:

Did the good guy get off the hook? Or is this guy the bad guy?

I don't think it's much to ask that you start being a bit specific.

TIA.
the good guy (the cop) had a gun.. the bad guy (the black kid) didn't.. and the black kid ended up dead.

so in this case, the good guy with a gun stopped the bad guy without a gun.

if you have further questions, let me know.

Yeah, we're the good guys in Dallas and Baton Rouge the guys with guns shooting the peace officers?

I'd hate to think that we could have some good guys and some bad guys in the police field. That would confuse the hyperbole here.

by **xsanguine** 2016-07-18, 19:31

DWags wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:
the good guy (the cop) had a gun.. the bad guy (the black kid) didn't.. and the black kid ended up dead.

so in this case, the good guy with a gun stopped the bad guy without a gun.

if you have further questions, let me know.

Yeah, we're the good guys in Dallas and Baton Rouge the guys with guns shooting the peace officers?

I'd hate to think that we could have some good guys and some bad guys in the police field. That would confuse the hyperbole here.

For the most part they're all bad guys.

But that doesn't mean they deserve to be harmed in any way.

by **Rocinante** 2016-07-18, 19:42

xsanguine wrote:
Rocinante wrote:

Maybe he thinks that because you ramble on like David Koresh quite often.

Like what? Any examples? Even paraphrasing?

I know we have differing opinions but I never thought I gave the impression that I was trying to start a cult and move to a compound.

I just figured we just disagreed. I didn't think to disagree means I'm a cult leader.... but hey, believe what you want.

I meant in your over the top typing fury, not in the content of your posts.

by **DWags** 2016-07-18, 19:45

xsanguine wrote:
DWags wrote:

Yeah, we're the good guys in Dallas and Baton Rouge the guys with guns shooting the peace officers?

I'd hate to think that we could have some good guys and some bad guys in the police field. That would confuse the hyperbole here.

For the most part they're all bad guys.

But that doesn't mean they deserve to be harmed in any way.

It comes down to mental health. There are good and bad people all around us. In any profession 50 percent of those that work it will do the right thing the super majority of the time b25% will do the right thing 95% of the time. There will always be 25% of the people who just do whatever is easiest or abuse power or cheat to get ahead in life. Some of those 25% will do it because they're just assholes, but some will because of mental illness.

That goes for John QPublic too. Same percentages too.

I don't have real figures, these are just what I believe.

But my point is, there will be people that take two mentally ill black guys that shit cops and paint a broad brush painting. There will be people that take frightened paranoid cops actions against black people because these cops believe Fox News to the letter and profile minorities and so they shoot first and figure things out later, and paint all cops with a broad brush.

It's who we've become as citizens. Can't have reasonable debate in my opinion. Just deteriorates to bullshit every time.

by **xsanguine** 2016-07-18, 20:17

Rocinante wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

Like what? Any examples? Even paraphrasing?

I know we have differing opinions but I never thought I gave the impression that I was trying to start a cult and move to a compound.

I just figured we just disagreed. I didn't think to disagree means I'm a cult leader.... but hey, believe what you want.

I meant in your over the top typing fury, not in the content of your posts.

Fury?

I think you may be misconstruing what I'm trying to say. I'm long winded, but blunt. If I think you're a piece of shit who would be better off dying slowly from hanging by a hook in your anus.. I'll tell.

But I actually wish you the best, Roc. It sounds like lots of things have gone good for you and you live in on of the only states I'd ever consider moving to. I always want to make fun of you for it but then I'm like...."I feel like I'm making fun of myself."

Was that too long?

I really stoned. And on 15mg of hydrocodoneee (it's prescriped, even the marijuana, for a "legitimate" injury, internet police)

by **xsanguine** 2016-07-18, 20:23

One thing with the fury is that often my thoughts are working faster than my fingers (which isn't usually the case.... nomsayin' Wink

) can type.

I still love you Roc and consider you a top poster. I hope you stick around for a very long time and I hope I can repair our damaged brolationship. I think at one point I named you as the the top poster on Wells (might have been Swill [small potatoes]). But being named the best poster on Wells is like being the prettiest piece in the septic tank....

I know, man. I know. I'm a rambler. I just like to talk. You can always ignore me if I annoy you. I don't mean it in the Bob way either. Seriously. You can ban me if I'm that bad. I won't be offended (doubt you'd care but just putting that out there).

by **xsanguine** 2016-07-18, 20:28

DWags wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

For the most part they're all bad guys.

But that doesn't mean they deserve to be harmed in any way.

It comes down to mental health. There are good and bad people all around us. In any profession 50 percent of those that work it will do the right thing the super majority of the time b25% will do the right thing 95% of the time. There will always be 25% of the people who just do whatever is easiest or abuse power or cheat to get ahead in life. Some of those 25% will do it because they're just assholes, but some will because of mental illness.

That goes for John QPublic too. Same percentages too.

I don't have real figures, these are just what I believe.

But my point is, there will be people that take two mentally ill black guys that shit cops and paint a broad brush painting. There will be people that take frightened paranoid cops actions against black people because these cops believe Fox News to the letter and profile minorities and so they shoot first and figure things out later, and paint all cops with a broad brush.

It's who we've become as citizens. Can't have reasonable debate in my opinion. Just deteriorates to bullshit every time.

You described it perfectly.

I'm honestly sick of the racial crap. And I don't mean this, in anyway, as having anything to do with your post... but unless it's some real shit (KKK kills 9 at Black Equality Parade).... I'd rather they leave the race out of the equation.

In stats, no. That should probably exist. But I primarily blame the media for this racial hatred that has ramped up the last 6-8 years. I don't know if it coincides with Obama being in office (not just point that out).... but I don't think it matters. Something has happened. Crime has gone waaaaay down. Cops didn't automatically go insane and kill black peopel.

What's the dealyo

by **xsanguine** 2016-07-18, 22:45

I like foul, kind of offending shit, Rock.

I grew up watching the comedy world. It's why I love Pryor, Carlin, Kinnison.... and RIP, god bless his heart... honestly I get a little choked up but Patrice O'Neal. I consider Patrice to be one of the smartest individuals there have been in show biz.

Now he doesn't speak with a Haaaaavard accent and have published essays in between games of croquet like Turtleneck prefers... but he'd have Turtleneck figured out in 3 minutes flat. Every insecuity or idiosyncrasy.... it'd be over for my friend Turtleneck (I hope I can still call him that).... but it'd be toast for TN. As smart as TN think he is.... a comedian from the hood is just going to call you out for everything you do that indicates insecurity. You're toast, TN. And I love ya... but I'd laugh.

RIP Patrice., never met you before but friends of yours I know talk about you like you're the comedy Einstein, my brother. God bless, good sir. Keep making god piss his pants in heaven and always be you, brotha.

If you don't know about Patrice not only his stand up textbook genius.... most is improvised, you don't know about you're missing. Plus see this nigga on any news segment, he makes people look awful. Patrice was/is a comedic genius.. He's like the anti-Dane Cook, basically.

by **xsanguine** 2016-07-19, 06:16

Rocinante wrote:
xsanguine wrote:

Wow, really? You really think that of me, Greeny? I've never even owned or operated a firearm... but you honestly believe because I disagree with you politically that I would walk into a place of business with military looking rifle?

Maybe he thinks that because you ramble on like David Koresh quite often.

Something funny I just realized. Cause you like to insult people a lot, it seems.

But didn't you say you're going to actually get out of bed to cast a vote for Hillary Clinton?

The fact that you are making it clear you're actually going to vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton.... how do you have any say in morality or being ethic or making fun of people for being "crazy".

You are literally going to vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Hilllary.

Clinton.

Think about it.

You're clique won't call you on it because you're all boys... but that's something you're boys are going to have to reconcile. Unless she completely changes course and becomes something totally else...

by **The_Dude** 2016-07-19, 12:49

xsanguine wrote:
Rocinante wrote:

Maybe he thinks that because you ramble on like David Koresh quite often.

Something funny I just realized. Cause you like to insult people a lot, it seems.

But didn't you say you're going to actually get out of bed to cast a vote for Hillary Clinton?

The fact that you are making it clear you're actually going to vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton.... how do you have any say in morality or being ethic or making fun of people for being "crazy".

You are literally going to vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Hilllary.

Clinton.

Think about it.

You're clique won't call you on it because you're all boys... but that's something you're boys are going to have to reconcile. Unless she completely changes course and becomes something totally else...

Thats what the left does though...they point the finger and accuse the other side of exactly what they are.
That's why their heads are exploding about Trump..finally a GOP nominee that doesn't take their shit and uses their same tactics against them.

Like, somehow, there are still people so entrenched politically on the left they think Hilary is actually an honest person. But I kind of thank them--their craziness and refusal to accept reality has led to a political revolution.

by **Rocinante** 2016-07-19, 13:33

You love me, you hate me. I just don't know anymore! Stop playing with my emotions!!!

by **xsanguine** 2016-07-19, 14:16

Rocinante wrote:You love me, you hate me. I just don't know anymore! Stop playing with my emotions!!!

Roc, just because I disagree with your choice for president has no bearing on how I feel about you as a poster. I really like you as a poster. I don't give a shit who you vote for, I just like to talk shit.

It's why Bob and I get along... we get it, we talk shit and we realize that's what it is. Everyone else must have been breastfed till age 13 because they are sensitive as shit.

But then again, you're trolling.... you couldn't give two shits. Which is cool, too. Do your thing, Roc. Whether you like me or (most likely) not, I like you. I don't dislike people just because they dislike me.

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