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Post by Other Teams Pursuing That 2016-07-17, 19:25

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
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Yeah, like Travis said, would like to know why this is relevant.

Really, way more black people are killed by heart disease than are murdered by anyone. We shouldn't bother trying to solve any other problems until that one is solved.

#AllProblemsMatter!
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Post by The_Dude 2016-07-17, 19:33

Do people truly, deep down, honestly believe police is even in the top 100 list of things that is wrong with minority and inner city communities?
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Post by Jake from State Farm 2016-07-17, 19:48

The_Dude wrote:Do people truly, deep down, honestly believe police is even in the top 100 list of things that is wrong with minority and inner city communities?

Why can't we all just get along.
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Post by Death Roe 2016-07-17, 19:54

The_Dude wrote:Do people truly, deep down, honestly believe police is even in the top 100 list of things that is wrong with minority and inner city communities?

You're a racist idiot.
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-07-17, 19:54

The_Dude wrote:Do people truly, deep down, honestly believe police is even in the top 100 list of things that is wrong with minority and inner city communities?

If they aren't, then why did the Dallas police chief, a black man, challenge members of the #BLM movement to join the force and get assigned to their neighborhoods to improve matters?

You're a fucking idiot.
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-07-17, 19:54

Death Roe wrote:
The_Dude wrote:Do people truly, deep down, honestly believe police is even in the top 100 list of things that is wrong with minority and inner city communities?

You're a racist idiot.

That, too.
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Post by The_Dude 2016-07-17, 20:16

tGreenWay wrote:
The_Dude wrote:Do people truly, deep down, honestly believe police is even in the top 100 list of things that is wrong with minority and inner city communities?

If they aren't, then why did the Dallas police chief, a black man, challenge members of the #BLM movement to join the force and get assigned to their neighborhoods to improve matters?

You're a fucking idiot.

How great would it be if BLM was called CLM, child lives matter, and they enthusiastically marched against having an alarming rate of children out of wedlock?
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Post by The_Dude 2016-07-17, 20:19

Death Roe wrote:
The_Dude wrote:Do people truly, deep down, honestly believe police is even in the top 100 list of things that is wrong with minority and inner city communities?

You're a racist idiot.

Isn't the onus on the citizens to follow the law and not cops to do 'better community policing?'

How about respect police officers and don't break the law? Maybe the cop hsters should all be forced to serve a 3 month stint in Detroit or east St. Louis or South Chicago and you'd see the hatred towards cops is way more of a problem than cops mistaking my killing someone.
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Baton Rouge Shooter Gavin Eugene Long Was Nation Of Islam Member, Railed Against ‘Crackers’ On YouTube Channel [VIDEO ]

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Post by kingstonlake 2016-07-17, 20:29

The_Dude wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

If they aren't, then why did the Dallas police chief, a black man, challenge members of the #BLM movement to join the force and get assigned to their neighborhoods to improve matters?

You're a fucking idiot.

How great would it be if BLM was called CLM, child lives matter, and they enthusiastically marched against having an alarming rate of children out of wedlock?

Well, now that's just dumb. You make valid points on violent crime as it relates to minorities and what the data actually shows as it relates to who's killing who. But you lost me on the wedlock thing.
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Post by kingstonlake 2016-07-17, 20:41

LooseGoose wrote:Baton Rouge Shooter Gavin Eugene Long Was Nation Of Islam Member, Railed Against ‘Crackers’ On YouTube Channel [VIDEO ]

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He was also an ex marine, on the deans list at Alabama and held the rank of Sergeant in the Marine corps
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Post by Floyd Robertson 2016-07-17, 20:46

LooseGoose wrote:Baton Rouge Shooter Gavin Eugene Long Was Nation Of Islam Member, Railed Against ‘Crackers’ On YouTube Channel [VIDEO ]

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Hating on crackers totally justifies gunning down a black officer.
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-07-17, 20:55

LooseGoose wrote:Baton Rouge Shooter Gavin Eugene Long Was Nation Of Islam Member, Railed Against ‘Crackers’ On YouTube Channel [VIDEO ]

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Been waiting to find out which hate group he belonged to.
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-07-17, 20:57

The_Dude wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

If they aren't, then why did the Dallas police chief, a black man, challenge members of the #BLM movement to join the force and get assigned to their neighborhoods to improve matters?

You're a fucking idiot.

How great would it be if BLM was called CLM, child lives matter, and they enthusiastically marched against having an alarming rate of children out of wedlock?

Excellent job proving DR's point.
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-07-17, 20:58

The_Dude wrote:
tGreenWay wrote:

If they aren't, then why did the Dallas police chief, a black man, challenge members of the #BLM movement to join the force and get assigned to their neighborhoods to improve matters?

You're a fucking idiot.

How great would it be if BLM was called CLM, child lives matter, and they enthusiastically marched against having an alarming rate of children out of wedlock?

You also conveniently avoided answering my question.
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Post by The_Dude 2016-07-17, 21:05

kingstonlake wrote:
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How great would it be if BLM was called CLM, child lives matter, and they enthusiastically marched against having an alarming rate of children out of wedlock?
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Well, now that's just dumb.  You make valid points on violent crime as it relates to minorities and what the data actually shows as it relates to who's killing who. But you lost me on the wedlock thing.

Single parent homes are the number one predictor for future poverty.

Blaming police and white people for black plight is lazy. It takes nothing to point the finger...maybe they should take responsibility and actually do something of substance that would actually help.
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Post by The_Dude 2016-07-17, 21:09

Officer Jackson made this post on FB a few days before he was killed.

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Post by Death Roe 2016-07-17, 21:22

The_Dude wrote:
Single parent homes are the number one predictor for future poverty.

Wow. You keep burying yourself, you fucking dipshit. Got any facts/evidence for this crap you spew out?
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Post by tGreenWay 2016-07-17, 21:36

The_Dude wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:
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Well, now that's just dumb.  You make valid points on violent crime as it relates to minorities and what the data actually shows as it relates to who's killing who. But you lost me on the wedlock thing.

Single parent homes are the number one predictor for future poverty.

Blaming police and white people for black plight is lazy. It takes nothing to point the finger...maybe they should take responsibility and actually do something of substance that would actually help.

So much irony. Your racist views grow by the post. And you still haven't answered my question.
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Post by Guest 2016-07-17, 21:43

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LooseGoose wrote:Baton Rouge Shooter Gavin Eugene Long Was Nation Of Islam Member, Railed Against ‘Crackers’ On YouTube Channel [VIDEO ]

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Hating on crackers totally justifies gunning down a black officer.
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Supposedly the black cop that was killed was a nephew of former UM running back coach Fred Jackson - saw that on another site, not confirmed.
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Post by The_Dude 2016-07-17, 21:47

Death Roe wrote:
The_Dude wrote:
Single parent homes are the number one predictor for future poverty.

Wow. You keep burying yourself, you fucking dipshit. Got any facts/evidence for this crap you spew out?

Everything I spew is based in reality. Which is why liberals dont like me. Take this link and stuff it down your throat you douche.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/harvard-study-single-parents-a-hindrance-to-social-mobility/article/2542841

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Post by Guest 2016-07-17, 21:49

The_Dude wrote:
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Wow. You keep burying yourself, you fucking dipshit. Got any facts/evidence for this crap you spew out?

Everything I spew is based in reality. Which is why liberals dont like me. Take this link and stuff it down your throat you douche.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/harvard-study-single-parents-a-hindrance-to-social-mobility/article/2542841


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Post by kingstonlake 2016-07-17, 21:57

The_Dude wrote:
Death Roe wrote:

Wow. You keep burying yourself, you fucking dipshit. Got any facts/evidence for this crap you spew out?

Everything I spew is based in reality. Which is why liberals dont like me. Take this link and stuff it down your throat you douche.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/harvard-study-single-parents-a-hindrance-to-social-mobility/article/2542841


You mean black poverty, correct. That's really only what concerns you, correct?
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Post by CheesySpartan 2016-07-17, 21:58

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:Let's keep it 100...95%+ of black men are killed by other black men...that is a fact and that is the problem and until that is addressed nothing will change.

And 70% of the earth is covered with water.

See, I can throw out totally irrelevant "stats" too!!!

What is irrelevant about FACTS???...How many Frickin times do I have to state this shit before it sinks in that until the root of the problem is addressed the solution will not be found...
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Post by CheesySpartan 2016-07-17, 22:05

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
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Yeah, like Travis said, would like to know why this is relevant.

Really, way more black people are killed by heart disease than are murdered by anyone. We shouldn't bother trying to solve any other problems until that one is"....

So 7000+ black men are MURDERED by other black men and you want to address the additional single digit victims of the police???  OK!   If the police killings are fixed you STILL HAVE 7000+ MURDERED EVERY YEAR...so what have you solved???


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Post by CheesySpartan 2016-07-17, 22:14

The_Dude wrote:Officer Jackson made this post on FB a few days before he was killed.

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Wow! Heavy stuff there...RIP
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Post by CheesySpartan 2016-07-17, 22:27

kingstonlake wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Everything I spew is based in reality. Which is why liberals dont like me. Take this link and stuff it down your throat you douche.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/harvard-study-single-parents-a-hindrance-to-social-mobility/article/2542841


You mean black poverty, correct. That's really only what concerns you, correct?

Black Lives Matter?????...Sound familiar?
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Post by SpartanInNH 2016-07-17, 22:28

Death Roe wrote:
The_Dude wrote:
Single parent homes are the number one predictor for future poverty.

Wow. You keep burying yourself, you fucking dipshit. Got any facts/evidence for this crap you spew out?

Nope.
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Post by Travis of the Cosmos 2016-07-17, 22:30

[quote="CheesySpartan"]
Travis of the Cosmos wrote:

Really, way more black people are killed by heart disease than are murdered by anyone. We shouldn't bother trying to solve any other problems until that one is

So 7000+ black men are MURDERED by other black men and you want to address the additional single digit victims of the police??? OK! If the police killings are fixed you STILL HAVE 7000+ MURDERED EVERY YEAR...so what have you solved???

A) heart disease dude. Way worse. Focus on the numbers.
B) just because the topic is generally black men (though we could debate that. I think the racial aspect of this is overblown) that doesn't mean that the issues have to be stack ranked and dealt with accordingly.
C) if you don't understand why the people with authority murdering people with no consequences upsets individuals then I really can't help you. Has the Minnesota cop been arrested yet? Why the hell not? What possible reason is there to not take that in front of a jury to decide his guilt or innocence? Why is it so drastically different for him than it would be for anyone else? I get some amount of difference for cops (can't prosecute every single cop killing. Most are going to be justified) but use some common sense and at least take the proper steps.
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Post by The_Dude 2016-07-17, 22:36

kingstonlake wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

Everything I spew is based in reality. Which is why liberals dont like me. Take this link and stuff it down your throat you douche.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/harvard-study-single-parents-a-hindrance-to-social-mobility/article/2542841


You mean black poverty, correct. That's really only what concerns you, correct?

No, but if you look at what segment of society makes up most single parent homes, well you get it. Fixing real issues isn't easy and because of the pc police they dictate what convos are allowed to be had and whatnot.
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Post by CheesySpartan 2016-07-17, 22:38

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:

A) heart disease dude. Way worse. Focus on the numbers.
B) just because the topic is generally black men (though we could debate that. I think the racial aspect of this is overblown) that doesn't mean that the issues have to be stack ranked and dealt with accordingly.
C) if you don't understand why the people with authority murdering people with no consequences upsets individuals then I really can't help you. Has the Minnesota cop been arrested yet? Why the hell not? What possible reason is there to not take that in front of a jury to decide his guilt or innocence? Why is it so drastically different for him than it would be for anyone else? I get some amount of difference for cops (can't prosecute every single cop killing. Most are going to be justified) but use some common sense and at least take the proper steps.

I'm personally disappointed in your thought process and your response Travis...hopefully it will change as you mature.
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Post by CheesySpartan 2016-07-17, 22:45

[quote="Travis of the Cosmos"][quote="CheesySpartan"]

A) heart disease dude. Way worse. Focus on the numbers.
B) just because the topic is generally black men (though we could debate that. I think the racial aspect of this is overblown) that doesn't mean that the issues have to be stack ranked and dealt with accordingly.
C) if you don't understand why the people with authority murdering people with no consequences upsets individuals then I really can't help you. Has the Minnesota cop been arrested yet? Why the hell not? What possible reason is there to not take that in front of a jury to decide his guilt or innocence? Why is it so drastically different for him than it would be for anyone else? I get some amount of difference for cops (can't prosecute every single cop killing. Most are going to be justified) but use some common sense and at least
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Post by CheesySpartan 2016-07-17, 22:49

Travis of the Cosmos wrote:
CheesySpartan wrote:

A) heart disease dude. Way worse. Focus on the numbers.
B) just because the topic is generally black men (though we could debate that. I think the racial aspect of this is overblown) that doesn't mean that the issues have to be stack ranked and dealt with accordingly.
C) if you don't understand why the people with authority murdering people with no consequences upsets individuals then I really can't help you. Has the Minnesota cop been arrested yet? Why the hell not? What possible reason is there to not take that in front of a jury to decide his guilt or innocence? Why is it so drastically different for him than it would be for anyone else? I get some amount of difference for cops (can't prosecute every single cop killing. Most are going to be justified) but use some common sense and at least take the proper steps.

C...murdering without consequence.

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Post by DWags 2016-07-17, 22:52

The_Dude wrote:
kingstonlake wrote:

You mean black poverty, correct. That's really only what concerns you, correct?

No, but if you look at what segment of society makes up most single parent homes, well you get it. Fixing real issues isn't easy and because of the pc police they dictate what convos are allowed to be had and whatnot.

You're a fucking idiot.

46 days.
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Post by CheesySpartan 2016-07-17, 22:55

DWags wrote:
The_Dude wrote:

No, but if you look at what segment of society makes up most single parent homes, well you get it. Fixing real issues isn't easy and because of the pc police they dictate what convos are allowed to be had and whatnot.

You're a fucking idiot.

46 days.

He actually has a a point here
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Post by DWags 2016-07-17, 23:10

CheesySpartan wrote:
DWags wrote:

You're a fucking idiot.

46 days.

He actually has a a point here

In 1970, 71% of homes in America were married heterosexual homes. Last year it was down to 46%.  

Fuck him, he's an idiot. He's a fucking idiot.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-07-18, 07:22

so, once again, good guys with guns couldn't stop a bad guy with a gun?

the NRA might want to revise their mission statement.
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Post by kingstonlake 2016-07-18, 07:27

Robert J Sakimano wrote:so, once again, good guys with guns couldn't stop a bad guy with a gun?

the NRA might want to revise their mission statement.

My understanding is that he was stopped. We both have fists. If you roll up and sucker punch me and I then knock you out because of it, its doesnt mean I didn't stop you. You were just an idiot with issues who reacted outside of society norms.
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Post by Robert J Sakimano 2016-07-18, 07:35

kingstonlake wrote:
Robert J Sakimano wrote:so, once again, good guys with guns couldn't stop a bad guy with a gun?

the NRA might want to revise their mission statement.

My understanding is that he was stopped. We both have fists. If you roll up and sucker punch me and I then knock you out because of it, its doesnt mean I didn't stop you. You were just an idiot with issues who reacted outside of society norms.
I think we need more guns. That'll work, right?

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Robert J Sakimano wrote:so, once again, good guys with guns couldn't stop a bad guy with a gun?

the NRA might want to revise their mission statement.

Without getting into the gun debate, the bad guy is dead.
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