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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by steveschneider on Wed 15 Feb - 11:36

GRR Spartan wrote:This is one instance where I can legitimately say "I told you so!"

Way back in August or early September I wrote what some here classified as a rant on why, as distastful as it was, Hillary Clinton should get your votes because while she was less than perfect she had submitted tax returns for over 2 decades and Trump had Manefort who was too cozy to Russian power brokers.

We're not halfway through February and it turns out the Trump campaign was lying about relationships with Russia.  

The sorry thing is we are now left hoping that at least 5-7 GOP US Senators have the political will to stop Trump in his tracks rather than succumb to the sirens song to using his Russian backed Presidency to sign off on a GOP agenda.  

Right now they are dealng with the devil who knows no loyalty except to himself, his children and his businesses that are run by his children.

Story have been brewing since July. The American voter should reject any candidate that refuses to release their tax forms.

At this point we should all be demanding to see them and to have a full independent investigation.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by NigelUno on Wed 15 Feb - 11:46

LooseGoose wrote:
steveschneider wrote:In the third and final act of this story, a potential scandal that not even the orange one will be able to piss away.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/10/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-intelligence.html?_r=0

And there's this -

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts

This will go down as one of the biggest scandals in our nations history.

Or one of the largest piles of bullshit. Which way are you wagering?

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Wed 15 Feb - 12:46

Keep throwing the FBI under the bus. I'm sure it will work out great.

Trump hits back at US media reports on Russia contacts - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38983742
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by GRR Spartan on Wed 15 Feb - 14:16

Of course Trump wants to focus on leaks because it shows he isn't on control of everything. For the first time in the nearly 15 months he's been unable to dominate and control news cycles Flynn and others in his campaign are showing his denials were hollow.

Did they really think the CIA, FBI and surveillance divisions of Home Land Security weren't going to notice calls to Russian officials? Wouldn't you think Flynn with his security clearance would have known the US knows who's calling the Russian Ambassador ?

Who the hell lets the guy carrying the "football"/briefcase with nuclear codes be walking online where he can be photographed? Senior petty officers on US ships have a better grasp of security than the Katzenjammer kids trying to placate Trump.

This is already bigger than Watergate because one of our country's longest post WW2 nuclear enemies is involved. The frightening part is how many in the GOP appear to be willing to hold their nose and protect Trump already.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Thu 23 Feb - 10:50

lol @ "bigger than Watergate" - only in the fevered swamps of Dem minds.

Wayne Barrett, Donald Trump, and the Death of the American Press

So when does the other shoe drop? Who’s going to break the story proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that the president of the United States is so deeply connected to Russian President Vladimir Putin that the White House has become a Muscovite colony in all but name?

Time to use some common sense—it’s not going to happen, there is no story. The narrative that Donald Trump is effectively Putin’s prison wife is an information operation orchestrated by Democratic hands, many of whom served in the Obama administration, sectors of the intelligence community, and much of the American press. The purpose of the campaign is to delegitimize Trump’s presidency by continuing to hit on themes drawn from the narrative that Russia “hacked” the election and stole it away from Clinton.

The narrative is contorted because it’s not journalism. It’s a story that could only make sense in a profoundly corrupted public sphere, one in which, for instance, Graydon Carter is celebrated for speaking truth to power with an editor’s letter critical of Trump in a magazine that has no other ontological ground in the universe except to celebrate power.

Oh, sure, there are regular hints that there’s still more to come on Trump and his staff’s ties to Russia—the big one is about to hit. But the steady sound of drip-drip-drip is the telltale sign of a political campaign, where items are leaked bit by bit to paralyze the target. Journalists, on the other hand, have to get their story out there as quickly, and as fully, as possible because they’re always worried the competition is going to beat them to it.

No, if Trump really was in bed with the Russians, the story would already be out there, and I’m pretty sure it would have had a Wayne Barrett byline.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by GRR Spartan on Thu 23 Feb - 16:01

If Trump was really in bed with the Russians we'd know?

So because Trump's own children have talked about the importance of Russian money in buying Trump owned apartments/townhouses/co-ops in their NYC and Florida portfolios and Trump businesses do business  with banks that also do major business with Russian oligarchs  we should forget about because nothing has bubbled to the top.  

Never mind the 800 lb gorilla in the room is all the information in Trump's tax returns which he refuses to release and won't even submit a copy of  the cover correspondence from the IRS confirming his taxes are being audited.

All the while some folks here who whined about Benghazi and the Clinton Foundation for years think Trump deserves a pass.

UPDATE:

Rence Priebus thinks the stories are "baloney". So much so he cntacted the FBI askng the FBI to refute reports. If its baloney and there is nothng to Trump ties to Russia, why would Priebus be contacting the FBI?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/fbi-denies-priebus-call-rebut-reports-trump-russia-ties-article-1.2980995
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Sat 25 Feb - 13:40

I think the Russians have hacked the DNC election....

Tim Murphy Verified account ‏@timothypmurphy

Donna Brazile now explaining that Democrats will have to use paper ballot because the WiFi sucks.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by GRR Spartan on Sat 25 Feb - 14:17

85 years ago German citizenry was defending the Krupp family for helping Germany be great again.

Goose you can be cute defendng a President who wants to help Russia regain a place on par with the US and China.

I think you are an Amercan who is willing to support an authoritarian President who took advantage of help from Russian cyber attacks and Leaks to win the Presidency.

Now President Trump wants to criminally prosecute reporters whose stories are based unnamed sources if the reporters don't reveal the leakers so they can be prosecuted.  Both right out f the authoritarian hand book.

I hope there is enough resistance so I won't ever have to live in the United States President Trump and Steve Bannon want to for all of us.  

Based on the constant excuses seen here it appears some think we need authoritarian government because we need a simpler life.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Sat 25 Feb - 16:36

GRR Spartan wrote:Now President Trump wants to criminally prosecute reporters whose stories are based unnamed sources if the reporters don't reveal the leakers so they can be prosecuted.  Both right out f the authoritarian hand book..

Talk to me some more.....about your posts from a few years ago? Oh that's right you agreed with that President.

New York Times reporter James Risen slammed Attorney General Eric Holder in a series of tweets Tuesday evening, calling the Obama administration “The greatest enemy of press freedom in a generation.”

“Eric Holder has been the nation's top censorship officer, not the top law enforcement officer,” Risen tweeted. “Eric Holder has done the bidding of the intelligence community and the White House to damage press freedom in the United States.”

Risen was tweeting in response to a speech Holder gave earlier on Tuesday at the National Press Club, where he defended the administration’s record on prosecuting leakers, saying they could have prosecuted far more than they actually did.

“We have tried to be appropriately sensitive in bringing those cases that warranted prosecution,” Holder said. “We have turned away, I mean, turned away substantially greater number of cases that were presented to us where prosecution was sought.”

For seven years, Risen mounted a legal battle against government demands that he identify his confidential sources for parts of a 2006 book in which he detailed a CIA plan to undermine Iran’s nuclear program. The Supreme Court declined his request to take up the case, which left Risen with virtually no protection against being forced to identify his sources, although he vowed he would never do so. As a result, Risen became the latest face of First Amendment rights and reporter’s privilege in the United States.

Late last year, Holder dropped the demand that Risen reveal his sources. In January, former CIA officer Jeffrey Sterling was found guilty on nine felony counts for the leak.

“Eric Holder has sent a message to dictators around the world that it is okay to crack down on the press and jail journalists,” Risen tweeted on Tuesday. “Eric Holder leaves behind a wrecked First Amendment.”

“Eric Holder managed to destroy any semblance of a reporter’s privilege in the United States,” he continued. “This is Eric Holder's true legacy on press freedom: ‘There is no First Amendment ‘reporter's privilege.’ From DOJ brief in my case.”

Risen: Obama administration is greatest enemy of press freedom



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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Sat 25 Feb - 16:38

Oh and BTW did you know the Obama administration prosecuted more leakers than ALL other Presidents combined?

Keep tooting your horn and ignoring history. You didn't care then, you're a hypocrite for caring now.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by AnomanderRake on Sat 25 Feb - 18:59

The Obama Administration's handling of whistle optimists and leakers was pathetic. The intelligence community and military went ballistic over the Snowden and Manning leaks in particular. They don't like being caught red handed.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Sat 25 Feb - 19:05


LooseGoose wrote:Oh and BTW did you know the Obama administration prosecuted more leakers than ALL other Presidents combined?

Keep tooting your horn and ignoring history.   You didn't care then, you're a hypocrite for caring now.

Yeah but Obama...
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by GRR Spartan on Sat 25 Feb - 20:10

Goose will be polishing Trumps shoes using Yeah But forever.

Hope you got Chap Stik for all the Trump ass kissing you do here.
Goose has the biggest BUT on the Swill.
Yeah BUT Obama.

Goose and Trump. Two Americans who love authoritarian government.
Goose was willing to sell out to stop abortion.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Cameron on Sat 25 Feb - 23:38

LooseGoose wrote:
GRR Spartan wrote:Now President Trump wants to criminally prosecute reporters whose stories are based unnamed sources if the reporters don't reveal the leakers so they can be prosecuted.  Both right out f the authoritarian hand book..

Talk to me some more.....about your posts from a few years ago?   Oh that's right you agreed with that President.

New York Times reporter James Risen slammed Attorney General Eric Holder in a series of tweets Tuesday evening, calling the Obama administration “The greatest enemy of press freedom in a generation.”

“Eric Holder has been the nation's top censorship officer, not the top law enforcement officer,” Risen tweeted. “Eric Holder has done the bidding of the intelligence community and the White House to damage press freedom in the United States.”

Risen was tweeting in response to a speech Holder gave earlier on Tuesday at the National Press Club, where he defended the administration’s record on prosecuting leakers, saying they could have prosecuted far more than they actually did.

“We have tried to be appropriately sensitive in bringing those cases that warranted prosecution,” Holder said. “We have turned away, I mean, turned away substantially greater number of cases that were presented to us where prosecution was sought.”

For seven years, Risen mounted a legal battle against government demands that he identify his confidential sources for parts of a 2006 book in which he detailed a CIA plan to undermine Iran’s nuclear program. The Supreme Court declined his request to take up the case, which left Risen with virtually no protection against being forced to identify his sources, although he vowed he would never do so. As a result, Risen became the latest face of First Amendment rights and reporter’s privilege in the United States.

Late last year, Holder dropped the demand that Risen reveal his sources. In January, former CIA officer Jeffrey Sterling was found guilty on nine felony counts for the leak.

“Eric Holder has sent a message to dictators around the world that it is okay to crack down on the press and jail journalists,” Risen tweeted on Tuesday. “Eric Holder leaves behind a wrecked First Amendment.”

“Eric Holder managed to destroy any semblance of a reporter’s privilege in the United States,” he continued. “This is Eric Holder's true legacy on press freedom: ‘There is no First Amendment ‘reporter's privilege.’ From DOJ brief in my case.”

Risen: Obama administration is greatest enemy of press freedom


Eric Holder was terrible and I'm glad he's gone.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by GRR Spartan on Sun 26 Feb - 0:12

So Goose
Besides the campaign plane, please cite instances where the Obama White House barred reporters from specific outlets from a scheduled media briefing?

I heard the whine and the expected Yeah But yet you haven't cited where Obama did the same thing.

Did President Obama ever have a staff member approach the FBI to back off on an investigation?

I understand Goose is a big fan of Trump's authoritarian rule. A simple life for the Oscoda County retiree living in a taker county.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Sun 26 Feb - 10:15

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:
LooseGoose wrote:Oh and BTW did you know the Obama administration prosecuted more leakers than ALL other Presidents combined?

Keep tooting your horn and ignoring history.   You didn't care then, you're a hypocrite for caring now.

Yeah but Obama...

Sorry for pointing out that the shit you're freaking out over now happens all the time. I was sorta hoping it would help unbunch your panties. ;-)

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Sun 26 Feb - 10:16

GRR Spartan wrote:Did President Obama ever have a staff member approach the FBI to back off on an investigation?

IRS and the Tea Party. Look it up.

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Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Wed 8 Mar - 8:48

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by GRR Spartan on Wed 8 Mar - 9:24

Just another former Trump campaign member who was advising on national security visiting Russia in July'16 who says he requested permission to go but no one remembers.

Another example of a well oiled, very forgetful machine.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Wed 8 Mar - 10:02

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/carter-page-russia-trip-trump-corey-lewandowski-235784

Another nothingburger, eh Comrade Goose?

Talk to me when you have some evidence, right now you're at or below Enquirer level.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by NigelUno on Wed 8 Mar - 10:10

LooseGoose wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/carter-page-russia-trip-trump-corey-lewandowski-235784

Another nothingburger, eh Comrade Goose?

Talk to me when you have some evidence, right now you're at or below Trump twitter level.

Fixed...

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Wed 8 Mar - 10:19

LooseGoose wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/carter-page-russia-trip-trump-corey-lewandowski-235784

Another nothingburger, eh Comrade Goose?

Talk to me when you have some evidence, right now you're at or below Enquirer level.

You serious Clark? I thought Politico was a trusted source? So you're either lying now or last time you said they were a trusted source. Which one is it I wonder?

Any more fake news links for us to debunk today?
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by GRR Spartan on Wed 8 Mar - 10:30

Aaaand we're back to fake news
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Fri 10 Mar - 9:39

From the noted RightWingRag™ Rolling Stone.....a warning.

Why the Russia Story Is a Minefield for Democrats and the Media

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper appeared on Meet the Press this past weekend to discuss the Trump-Russia scandal. Chuck Todd asked: Were there improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials?

JAMES CLAPPER: We did not include any evidence in our report, and I say, "our," that's N.S.A., F.B.I. and C.I.A., with my office, the Director of National Intelligence, that had anything, that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was no evidence of that…
CHUCK TODD: I understand that. But does it exist?
JAMES CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.
Todd pressed him to elaborate.
CHUCK TODD: If [evidence of collusion] existed, it would have been in this report?
JAMES CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government.

This is the former Director of National Intelligence telling all of us that as of 12:01 a.m. on January 20th, when he left government, the intelligence agencies had no evidence of collusion between Donald Trump's campaign and the government of Vladimir Putin's Russia.

The press has to cover this subject. But it can't do it with glibness and excitement, laughing along to SNL routines, before it knows for sure what it's dealing with. Reporters should be scared to their marrow by this story. This is a high-wire act and it is a very long way down. We might want to leave the jokes and the nicknames be, until we get to the other side – wherever that is.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by NigelUno on Fri 10 Mar - 9:53

LooseGoose wrote:From the noted RightWingRag™ Rolling Stone.....a warning.

Why the Russia Story Is a Minefield for Democrats and the Media

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper appeared on Meet the Press this past weekend to discuss the Trump-Russia scandal. Chuck Todd asked: Were there improper contacts between the Trump campaign and Russian officials?

JAMES CLAPPER: We did not include any evidence in our report, and I say, "our," that's N.S.A., F.B.I. and C.I.A., with my office, the Director of National Intelligence, that had anything, that had any reflection of collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians. There was no evidence of that…
CHUCK TODD: I understand that. But does it exist?
JAMES CLAPPER: Not to my knowledge.
Todd pressed him to elaborate.
CHUCK TODD: If [evidence of collusion] existed, it would have been in this report?
JAMES CLAPPER: This could have unfolded or become available in the time since I left the government.

This is the former Director of National Intelligence telling all of us that as of 12:01 a.m. on January 20th, when he left government, the intelligence agencies had no evidence of collusion between Donald Trump's campaign and the government of Vladimir Putin's Russia.

The press has to cover this subject. But it can't do it with glibness and excitement, laughing along to SNL routines, before it knows for sure what it's dealing with. Reporters should be scared to their marrow by this story. This is a high-wire act and it is a very long way down. We might want to leave the jokes and the nicknames be, until we get to the other side – wherever that is.

Any evidence of Obama tapping Trump?

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by DWags on Fri 10 Mar - 9:54

Now we see a Trump/Russian/DEVOS bank connection.
This is getting interesting.

There’s also another bizarre aspect to the story. CNN is now confirming that, as Palmer Report first pieced together a month ago, the Trump Tower email server was set up to only accept traffic from a very small number of internet addresses – and one of them belonged to Spectrum Health, a company controlled by the DeVos family. After Trump won the election he picked Betsy DeVos as his Secretary of Education, despite her total lack of suitability for the job. Were Trump and DeVos connected through ties to Russia, and if so how?

And here’s the part that Donald Trump and his campaign won’t be able to explain away by continuing to pretend it was merely a spam email server: this new CNN report says that the Russian Alfa Bank looked up the internet address of the Trump Tower email server a total of 2,820 times during a five month period during the campaign. That’s an average of around once per hour. It suggests that contact between Trump Tower and the Russian bank was as frequent as it was prolonged.

Lot of weird coincidences if true
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Fri 10 Mar - 9:58

Eat your nothingburger!!! - Comrade Goosechev

I think Shep needs a real gig. Probably gonna get fired from the Trump Propagana Machine anyway.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by NigelUno on Fri 10 Mar - 10:15

It's not like Trump encouraged the Russians to hack...or said he loved Wikileaks...or had his campaign manager "resign" after increased scrutiny of Manafort's earlier work in Ukraine on behalf of pro-Russian figures...or fired his NSA because he lied about meeting with Russians...or had his AG recuse himself...or won't release his tax returns...

Leningrad LooseGoose says "Nothing to see here"...
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Fri 10 Mar - 10:17

Ali Watkins of BuzzFeed talked to staffers on the Senate Intelligence Committee on their review of the information so far. A month into its sweeping investigation into the Kremlin’s efforts to undermine the US election, the Senate Intelligence Committee is expected to answer all those questions — publicly, coherently, and fast. As the days tick by, they’re less and less sure they’ll be able to.

Even some Democrats on the Intelligence Committee now quietly admit, after several briefings and preliminary inquiries, they don’t expect to find evidence of active, informed collusion between the Trump campaign and known Russian intelligence operatives, though investigators have only just begun reviewing raw intelligence. Among the Intelligence Committee’s rank and file, there’s a tangible frustration over what one official called “wildly inflated” expectations surrounding the panel’s fledgling investigation.

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Post by NigelUno on Fri 10 Mar - 10:21

LooseGoose wrote:
Ali Watkins of BuzzFeed talked to staffers on the Senate Intelligence Committee on their review of the information so far. A month into its sweeping investigation into the Kremlin’s efforts to undermine the US election, the Senate Intelligence Committee is expected to answer all those questions — publicly, coherently, and fast. As the days tick by, they’re less and less sure they’ll be able to.

Even some Democrats on the Intelligence Committee now quietly admit, after several briefings and preliminary inquiries, they don’t expect to find evidence of active, informed collusion between the Trump campaign and known Russian intelligence operatives, though investigators have only just begun reviewing raw intelligence. Among the Intelligence Committee’s rank and file, there’s a tangible frustration over what one official called “wildly inflated” expectations surrounding the panel’s fledgling investigation.

How long do you think the investigation into Obama tapping Trump will last?

Will Trump present his evidence?
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Fri 10 Mar - 10:23

LooseGoose wrote:
Ali Watkins of BuzzFeed talked to staffers on the Senate Intelligence Committee on their review of the information so far. A month into its sweeping investigation into the Kremlin’s efforts to undermine the US election, the Senate Intelligence Committee is expected to answer all those questions — publicly, coherently, and fast. As the days tick by, they’re less and less sure they’ll be able to.

Even some Democrats on the Intelligence Committee now quietly admit, after several briefings and preliminary inquiries, they don’t expect to find evidence of active, informed collusion between the Trump campaign and known Russian intelligence operatives, though investigators have only just begun reviewing raw intelligence. Among the Intelligence Committee’s rank and file, there’s a tangible frustration over what one official called “wildly inflated” expectations surrounding the panel’s fledgling investigation.

What's up with all the lying from your administration Goose? Or is this what we should expect for the next four years? Barring an impeachment of course.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Mon 13 Mar - 9:16

Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he warns against 'hysteria'

Hillary Clinton’s team members met with the Russian ambassador during the election as well as Donald Trump’s, the Kremlin spokesman has alleged, as he set out to dismiss the “hysteria” surrounding Mr Trump’s links to Russia.

The house intelligence committee will hold its first session on Russia on March 20, with the heads of the FBI, national security agency and CIA expected to appear, plus previous intelligence chiefs.

But Dmitry Peskov, the press secretary for Vladimir Putin, said on Sunday that America was “self-humiliating” in insisting that Russia hacked its election.

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Mon 13 Mar - 9:18

LooseGoose wrote:Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he warns against 'hysteria'

Hillary Clinton’s team members met with the Russian ambassador during the election as well as Donald Trump’s, the Kremlin spokesman has alleged, as he set out to dismiss the “hysteria” surrounding Mr Trump’s links to Russia.

The house intelligence committee will hold its first session on Russia on March 20, with the heads of the FBI, national security agency and CIA expected to appear, plus previous intelligence chiefs.

But Dmitry Peskov, the press secretary for Vladimir Putin, said on Sunday that America was “self-humiliating” in insisting that Russia hacked its election.

Thanks for the update from Moscow Today. Have you seized the means of production today?
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by NigelUno on Mon 13 Mar - 9:23

Trump associate plays down Twitter contact with Guccifer 2.0

Goose...Guccifer...draw your own conclusions.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Robert J Sakimano on Mon 13 Mar - 9:26

LooseGoose wrote:Hillary Clinton's team met with Russian ambassador, says Kremlin spokesman, as he warns against 'hysteria'

Hillary Clinton’s team members met with the Russian ambassador during the election as well as Donald Trump’s, the Kremlin spokesman has alleged, as he set out to dismiss the “hysteria” surrounding Mr Trump’s links to Russia.

The house intelligence committee will hold its first session on Russia on March 20, with the heads of the FBI, national security agency and CIA expected to appear, plus previous intelligence chiefs.

But Dmitry Peskov, the press secretary for Vladimir Putin, said on Sunday that America was “self-humiliating” in insisting that Russia hacked its election.


Goosechev with the "but.. HILLARY"!!
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by DWags on Mon 13 Mar - 9:36

From Gooses' article:

But earlier this month Foreign Policy reported that no one from the former secretary of state's campaign met with Mr Kislyak or any other Russian official. The magazine also reported that all the other candidates kept the embassy "at arm's length".

And supporters of Mrs Clinton would point out that the problem did not come from meeting the ambassador, but rather failing to disclose it.

I dont' get it: "yes, we met, we met with many ambassador's, it's the right thing to do when you are running for president and they're such an entity world wide."

If they ask what was talked about, I'd have no problem with them saying, "you know, that's none of your business, you'll be apprised of it when we deem it's safe and necessary to tell you about it, if you don't like it, run for president and win".

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Mon 13 Mar - 9:50

DWags wrote:From Gooses' article:

But earlier this month Foreign Policy reported that no one from the former secretary of state's campaign met with Mr Kislyak or any other Russian official. The magazine also reported that all the other candidates kept the embassy "at arm's length".

And supporters of Mrs Clinton would point out that the problem did not come from meeting the ambassador, but rather failing to disclose it.

I dont' get it:  "yes, we met, we met with many ambassador's, it's the right thing to do when you are running for president and they're such an entity world wide."

If they ask what was talked about, I'd have no problem with them saying, "you know, that's none of your business, you'll be apprised of it when we deem it's safe and necessary to tell you about it, if you don't like it, run for president and win".

I'm starting to get the feeling that Goose just reads the headlines and gets too excited to post it here before hopping over to look for more gotcha articles from Alex Jones or Drudge or whatever other alt-right propaganda site he digs these days.
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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by LooseGoose on Mon 13 Mar - 9:55

DWags wrote:From Gooses' article:

But earlier this month Foreign Policy reported that no one from the former secretary of state's campaign met with Mr Kislyak or any other Russian official. The magazine also reported that all the other candidates kept the embassy "at arm's length".

And supporters of Mrs Clinton would point out that the problem did not come from meeting the ambassador, but rather failing to disclose it.

I dont' get it: "yes, we met, we met with many ambassador's, it's the right thing to do when you are running for president and they're such an entity world wide."

If they ask what was talked about, I'd have no problem with them saying, "you know, that's none of your business, you'll be apprised of it when we deem it's safe and necessary to tell you about it, if you don't like it, run for president and win".

Link to an article where the Clinton campaign "disclosed" that they were meeting with the damned Russkies?

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Re: The Russians and the 2016 Election PT III

Post by Watch Out Pylon! on Mon 13 Mar - 9:57

LooseGoose wrote:
DWags wrote:From Gooses' article:

But earlier this month Foreign Policy reported that no one from the former secretary of state's campaign met with Mr Kislyak or any other Russian official. The magazine also reported that all the other candidates kept the embassy "at arm's length".

And supporters of Mrs Clinton would point out that the problem did not come from meeting the ambassador, but rather failing to disclose it.

I dont' get it:  "yes, we met, we met with many ambassador's, it's the right thing to do when you are running for president and they're such an entity world wide."

If they ask what was talked about, I'd have no problem with them saying, "you know, that's none of your business, you'll be apprised of it when we deem it's safe and necessary to tell you about it, if you don't like it, run for president and win".

Link to an article where the Clinton campaign "disclosed" that they were meeting with the damned Russkies?

Link to an article where the Clinton campaign was under oath and lied about it?
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