Re: This is a program game

by **Travis of the Cosmos** 2017-10-29, 10:17

MiamiSpartan wrote:
DWags wrote:

It helps to watch the game though. We had five plays where it was 2nd and short (less than five). Two were passes for first downs one was LJ running for a first down one was Lewerke not seeing the field and having to run for a one yard gain and one was London for a no gain.

So five second and shorts, three passes, two successful one scramble. Two run plays one for a first down and one for no gain. Since we threw on three of five and picked up a first on one run play are you saying he should have called something else on the London no gain? OK. Yeah we should have thrown the bomb.
The plays that worked were fine, dwags, but we should have done the opposite of what we tried on plays that didn't work.

This

by Guest 2017-10-29, 10:26

I learn something new every time Herbie posts. I wish he would post more.

by **NigelUno** 2017-10-29, 10:48

MiamiSpartan wrote:
DWags wrote:

It helps to watch the game though. We had five plays where it was 2nd and short (less than five). Two were passes for first downs one was LJ running for a first down one was Lewerke not seeing the field and having to run for a one yard gain and one was London for a no gain.

So five second and shorts, three passes, two successful one scramble. Two run plays one for a first down and one for no gain. Since we threw on three of five and picked up a first on one run play are you saying he should have called something else on the London no gain? OK. Yeah we should have thrown the bomb.
The plays that worked were fine, dwags, but we should have done the opposite of what we tried on plays that didn't work.

Careful...Herbie will think that means we should have had London run backwards on that one play.

by Herbie Green 2017-10-30, 15:25

DWags wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:My thinking is that plays have a better chance of success by doing the opposite of what the defense expects and 2nd and short can be a free play to exploit that kind of advantage

It helps to watch the game though. We had five plays where it was 2nd and short (less than five). Two were passes for first downs one was LJ running for a first down one was Lewerke not seeing the field and having to run for a one yard gain and one was London for a no gain.

So five second and shorts, three passes, two successful one scramble. Two run plays one for a first down and one for no gain. Since we threw on three of five and picked up a first on one run play are you saying he should have called something else on the London no gain? OK. Yeah we should have thrown the bomb.

Lol, those two successful pass plays were on MSU's last possession that resulted in a touchdown, where out of nowhere MSU marched down the field with ease. This was their first touchdown drive since the 1st drive in the game (which was also done by passing). In between we had 3 and a half quarters of no touchdown drives.

I may have been drunk while watching the game but now I can go back and look at the game log.
The first touchdown drive was 6 passes and 1 run. The 2nd touchdown drive was 11 passes and 1 run. I think you said you like scoring touchdowns right?

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2017-10-30, 15:31

Is the Penn St. game a program game? If so how many program games can you have in a season?

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2017-10-30, 15:58

The program has no business losing to a team like northwestern - no matter how young they are. We are beyond that point and dantonio has set those expectations.

by **tGreenWay** 2017-10-30, 16:03

Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Is the Penn St. game a program game? If so how many program games can you have in a season?

I don't know, but I'm planning to drink a program beer. Every beer is a program beer.

by **tGreenWay** 2017-10-30, 16:04

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:The program has no business losing to a team like northwestern - no matter how young they are. We are beyond that point and dantonio has set those expectations.

You didn't answer the question. This thread is about looking ahead.

by **DWags** 2017-10-30, 16:32

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:The program has no business losing to a team like northwestern - no matter how young they are. We are beyond that point and dantonio has set those expectations.

We suck?

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2017-10-30, 16:40

DWags wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:The program has no business losing to a team like northwestern - no matter how young they are. We are beyond that point and dantonio has set those expectations.

We suck?

It’s just a disappointing loss, wags. I know you’re stuck in that whole black and white mindset where you’re either satisfied or want dantonio fired - but reality is not exactly like that.

by **DWags** 2017-10-30, 17:34

Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:
DWags wrote:

We suck?

It’s just a disappointing loss, wags. I know you’re stuck in that whole black and white mindset where you’re either satisfied or want dantonio fired - but reality is not exactly like that.

Nah, I just don’t like to get bummed anymore after losses. However this was the first game I was bummed since Nebraska 2015, football or basketball. And I was bummed because the defense let us down imo. I wasn’t even counting on 9 victories but we gave that away because our defense couldn’t get a stop. Against Nortwestern. I saw our offense get some young receivers confidence and then I just didn’t see a very good defense step up when they needed to.

by **Watch Out Pylon!** 2017-10-30, 18:05

tGreenWay wrote:
Watch Out Pylon! wrote:Is the Penn St. game a program game? If so how many program games can you have in a season?

I don't know, but I'm planning to drink a program beer. Every beer is a program beer.

That's how you find the inches right there.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2017-10-30, 18:30

DWags wrote:
Other Teams Pursuing That wrote:

It’s just a disappointing loss, wags. I know you’re stuck in that whole black and white mindset where you’re either satisfied or want dantonio fired - but reality is not exactly like that.

Nah, I just don’t like to get bummed anymore after losses. However this was the first game I was bummed since Nebraska 2015, football or basketball. And I was bummed because the defense let us down imo. I wasn’t even counting on 9 victories but we gave that away because our defense couldn’t get a stop. Against Nortwestern. I saw our offense get some young receivers confidence and then I just didn’t see a very good defense step up when they needed to.

Sounds like we are on the same page. I don’t get like I used to after a loss, as I’ve gotten smarter with age - “bummed” is a good word for it.

by **Death Roe** 2017-10-30, 18:30

My poop was green yesterday. Were those program poops?

by **NigelUno** 2017-11-05, 08:31

Herbie Green wrote:My thinking is that plays have a better chance of success by doing the opposite of what the defense expects and 2nd and short can be a free play to exploit that kind of advantage

Or not.

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by Herbie Green 2017-11-05, 18:44

Nice bump Nigel. Did you happen to notice anything different about the offensive game plan against PSU vs Northwestern?

by **DWags** 2017-11-05, 18:57

Herbie Green wrote:Nice bump Nigel. Did you happen to notice anything different about the offensive game plan against PSU vs Northwestern?

No, I didn’t. But I think they’re trying to call plays the other team isn’t expecting.

by **Turtleneck** 2017-11-05, 18:59

DWags wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:Nice bump Nigel. Did you happen to notice anything different about the offensive game plan against PSU vs Northwestern?

No, I didn’t. But I think they’re trying to call plays the other team isn’t expecting.

Haha. Herbie owned you morons. Herbie is brilliant. When he said the MSU coaches are trying to win, you guys had nothing. He thinks at a way higher level.

by **DWags** 2017-11-05, 19:41

Turtleneck wrote:
DWags wrote:

No, I didn’t. But I think they’re trying to call plays the other team isn’t expecting.

Haha. Herbie owned you morons. Herbie is brilliant. When he said the MSU coaches are trying to win, you guys had nothing. He thinks at a way higher level.

I hate that fucker. He always shows me up.

by **Death Roe** 2017-11-05, 19:45

Herbie is so sexy when he gets mad at people. I love it.

by **Other Teams Pursuing That** 2017-11-05, 20:07

I will say, it was nice when we stopped trying to force the run with our current o line.

by **NigelUno** 2017-11-05, 20:31

DWags wrote:
Herbie Green wrote:Nice bump Nigel. Did you happen to notice anything different about the offensive game plan against PSU vs Northwestern?

No, I didn’t. But I think they’re trying to call plays the other team isn’t expecting.

I noticed Coach D was pissed about that audible on 2nd and short.

by **DWags** 2017-11-26, 23:06

Herbie Green wrote:Let's just get that straight right now

I’m planking like a mother fucker I got it so straight.

by Herbie Green 2017-11-27, 15:23

Bump.

http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2017/11/24/michigan-state-football-mark-dantonio-rutgers-win-loss-record/893499001/

“This is a program game,” Dantonio said for the second straight week. “You don't want to take any shine … off of this season. We want to go into the bowl season like this (moving his hand upward) going forward.”

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